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  1. Cellular Medicine in Cancer

    Cellular Medicine provides a new perspective in the
    developmental steps of cancer and its metastasis and new
    safe, effective therapeutic options.

    Choices and Outcomes in Cancer Treatment: For decades,
    standard treatment for cancer has consisted of surgery,
    radiation and chemotherapy. Radiation and chemotherapy, the
    most frequently used therapies, not only are ineffective in
    providing a cure, but also indiscriminately attack all cells
    - healthy and cancerous, causing cellular damage and
    destruction of the body's connective tissue, the defense
    against cancer metastasis. Both radiation and chemotherapy
    trigger the development of new cancers and damage the immune
    system and body organs. In addition, these interventions
    activate enzymes that facilitate the release of cancer cells
    from a localized area to spread to other organs.

    At Matthias Rath Research, we have achieved a breakthrough
    in cancer research by defining the cellular mechanisms
    involved in cancer proliferation and metastasis and
    developed a natural means of controlling these mechanisms.
    Efficient control of the spread of a disease by collagen-
    dissolving enzyme blocks has been successful with several
    diseases. This is especially important in diseases for
    which orthodox medicine has no preventive or healing
    therapies yet. A combination of natural nutrients
    formulated to support the body in curbing metastasis and
    reversing tumor growth, has been shown to be effective
    against a variety of human cancer cell lines, without
    adverse effects on normal cells.

    drrathresearch.orgcancer.html
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  2. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Cellular Medicine in Cancer

    Cellular Medicine provides a new perspective in the
    developmental steps of cancer and its metastasis and new
    safe, effective therapeutic options.

    Let's look at the lies that have to be used to make Dr
    Rath's concoctions look good..

    Quoted message said:

    Choices and Outcomes in Cancer Treatment: For decades,
    standard treatment for cancer has consisted of surgery,
    radiation and chemotherapy. Radiation and chemotherapy,
    the most


    frequently

    Quoted message said:

    used therapies,

    Surgery is far and away the most frequently used medical
    treatment, but it suits the quacks to refer to
    treatments that are only used in more life-threatening
    or difficult cancers..

    Quoted message said:

    not only are ineffective in providing a cure,

    The BIG LIE. Chemotherapy has a high cure rate with
    lymphoma, leukemias, childhood cancers and even with
    metastatic testicular cancer. It significantly increases the
    long term cure rate when added to surgery in breast and
    colon cancer.

    Quoted message said:

    but also indiscriminately attack all cells - healthy and
    cancerous,

    It attacks mainly rapidly dividing cells, ones that are
    easily replaced after treatment,

    Quoted message said:

    causing cellular damage and destruction of the body's
    connective tissue, the defense


    against

    Quoted message said:

    cancer metastasis.

    Not true, but so what? Chemotherapy is almost exclusively
    used in patients who have already metastasised, are
    likely to have already metastasised, or who have already
    had the primary tumour removed so that further metastases
    cannot occur.

    Quoted message said:

    Both radiation and chemotherapy trigger the development of
    new cancers and damage the immune system and body organs.

    Not so relevant if a patient has a cancer that untreated (or
    treated by ineffective methods) will lead to death. Also,
    the incidence of additional second cancers after
    chemotherapy is a very small percentage at twenty or thirty
    years, much less than the gain in cure rate survival when
    chemotherapy is used as an adjuvant to surgery. How is it
    preferable to let the first cancer kill you off?

    Quoted message said:

    In addition, these interventions activate enzymes that
    facilitate the release of cancer cells from a localized
    area to spread to other organs.

    Simply repeating the claim that they facilitate metastasis.
    See above.

    Quoted message said:

    At Matthias Rath Research, we have achieved a breakthrough
    in cancer research by defining the cellular mechanisms
    involved in cancer proliferation and metastasis and
    developed a natural means of controlling these mechanisms.

    I say this is [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    Efficient control of the spread of a disease by collagen-
    dissolving enzyme blocks has been successful with several


    diseases.

    Quoted message said:

    This is especially important in diseases for which
    orthodox medicine has


    no

    Quoted message said:

    preventive or healing therapies yet. A combination of
    natural nutrients formulated to support the body in
    curbing metastasis and reversing tumor growth, has been
    shown to be effective against a variety of human cancer
    cell lines, without adverse effects on normal cells.

    Rath offers not a scrap of clinical evidence in support this
    claim. The testimonials on his site are even of a shameful
    quality for a doctor purporting to be a serious cancer
    researcher.

    Instead he offers numerous tissue culture experiments which
    may show nothing more than that his preparation is toxic to
    any kind of cell if added to the culture medium. Certainly
    he has not shown that the proliferation of normal cells in
    tissue culture is not affected in the same way. Add enough
    of any chemical to a tissue culture and the cells will
    complain, as innumerable other cancer quacks have
    discovered, to their great glee.

    Why should I not conclude that this is all a cynical beat-
    up, designed merely to sell his products?

    Peter Moran.

  3. It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Orac said:

    Indeed. I could add bleach at varying concentrations to my
    tissue culture flasks, and quite easily "prove" that it is
    toxic to tumor cells at very low concentrations. That
    doesn't mean bleach is a good therapy for cancer.

    LOL! I'd offer you my prolactinoma(sorry, haven't got
    anything more interesting) for use in your experiment but
    it's in my head at the moment. <g>

    Vashti

  4. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:40d0c379$0$336$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    causing cellular damage and destruction of the body's
    connective tissue, the defense


    against

    Quoted message said:

    cancer metastasis.

    Not true, but so what? Chemotherapy is almost exclusively
    used in patients who have already metastasised, are
    likely to have already metastasised, or who have already
    had the primary tumour removed so that further metastases
    cannot occur.

    I missed something at first reading of this. Of course, Rath
    is looking for a niche in the 'alternative' market where a
    some unfortunate cancer sufferers are being seduced into NOT
    having any proper medical treatment of their primary cancer.
    So they do remain in permanent dread of metastases.

    I have now many examples where such patients have had to
    watch their cancers growing and growing, and ulcerating and
    bleeding, and becoming ever more painful, while they
    desperately to cling to "the faith", trying an ever
    expanding combination of "alternatives".

    It is interesting that despite the evidence of their own
    senses, such patients rarely do ever realise they have been
    sold an extremely evil bill of goods, or at least I have
    never seen one admit to this.

    In a few cases their choice has been reasonably rational,
    when the prognosis with conventional treatment was pretty
    hopeless anyway, but even those may have been denied useful
    palliation.

    Peter Moran .

  5. In article
    <[email hidden]
    .au>,

    Peter Moran said:

    Rath offers not a scrap of clinical evidence in support
    this claim. The testimonials on his site are even of a
    shameful quality for a doctor purporting to be a serious
    cancer researcher.

    Instead he offers numerous tissue culture experiments
    which may show nothing more than that his preparation is
    toxic to any kind of cell if added to the culture medium.
    Certainly he has not shown that the proliferation of
    normal cells in tissue culture is not affected in the same
    way. Add enough of any chemical to a tissue culture and
    the cells will complain, as innumerable other cancer
    quacks have discovered, to their great glee.

    Indeed. I could add bleach at varying concentrations to my
    tissue culture flasks, and quite easily "prove" that it is
    toxic to tumor cells at very low concentrations. That
    doesn't mean bleach is a good therapy for cancer.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
    |you inconvenience me with questions?"

  6. a guy called in on coastocoastam.com talk show.......he says
    his friend is in prison in plymouth or dartmouth mass by us
    gov. for discovering cheap cure for cancer that would cost
    med prof billions lost $.......he says cure is : in a
    blender put raw almonds,raw garlic,raw onions.....make
    paste... eat daily.....guy sounded for real...

  7. Quoted message said:

    a guy called in on coastocoastam.com talk show.......he
    says his friend is in prison in plymouth or dartmouth mass
    by us gov. for discovering cheap cure for cancer that would
    cost med prof billions lost $.......he says cure is : in a
    blender put raw almonds,raw garlic,raw onions.....make
    paste... eat daily.....guy sounded for real...

    I hope you like wearing prison stripes and showering with
    other guys. You are *SO* Busted!

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