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  1. I'm suffering from leg edema something fierce. For a long
    time it was only my left leg, but recently mny left leg got
    real bad and my right leg started to join it.

    My doctor said it was because of some of my BP drugs (
    Calcium channel blocker, and minoxidyl ), and took me off of
    minoxidyl.

    The edema is present so long and so harshly that it worries
    me. Recently something bothered me. If it is the case that
    the drugs are the cause then wouldn't I have bilateral leg
    edema? I would think that some systemic cause would produce
    bilateral edema.

  2. cc'd by email

    Well, I can only speak from my personal experience.

    Edema is a complex problem, and while we can give you some
    ideas from experience - You should use them to ask your
    doctor, or, possibly better yet, a new doctor. While your
    problem is common, do NOT take any solutions given here as
    answers, merely as POSSIBLE answers, to get professional
    advice on.

    1) I have never heard of your meds causing edema - You can
    check the side effects details on each website, or on
    the FDA website. I have not done an exhaustive search,
    merely a skim.
    2) I, and many of my friends (all fat old diabetics with
    mild heart problems) wrap our swollen leg(s). I use a 4"
    tubular bandage instead of a wrapping. Earlier threads
    show that a lot of others, mainly non US do the same.
    Cardiologists in the US seem to prefer wide Ace bandages.
    Orthopods seem to like tubular bandages for edema.

    if wrapping, start at the foot, and wrap evenly up up the
    top of the calf, NOT from the top down.

    3) keep your feet as high as possible when not walking. - it
    will keep the blood from pooling.

    4) walk or swim as much as you can confortablu. It will keep
    the blood pumping - don't overdo it.

    sitting or standing is BAD for your legs - walking or lying
    down is good.

    5) Are you on diuretics ? Lasix in particular is good for
    edema - it's original use was to treat edema. I was put
    on Lasix when I had a bad case of cellulites - I had
    gained about 30 lbs from the cellulites - I lost not 30,
    but 60 lbs !!! I now am on Lasix regularly, and my edema
    is under control. It appears that I was carrying around a
    LOT of excess fluid, most of which settled in my legs
    (particularly my right leg)

    Thad O said:

    I'm suffering from leg edema something fierce. For a long
    time it was only my left leg, but recently mny left leg
    got real bad and my right leg started to join it.

    My doctor said it was because of some of my BP drugs (
    Calcium channel blocker, and minoxidyl ), and took me off
    of minoxidyl.

    The edema is present so long and so harshly that it
    worries me. Recently something bothered me. If it is the
    case that the drugs are the cause then wouldn't I have
    bilateral leg edema? I would think that some systemic
    cause would produce bilateral edema.

    --
    "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
    history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
    observing from the present" Glen Cook

  3. Ted Rosenberg said:

    cc'd by email

    Well, I can only speak from my personal experience.

    Edema is a complex problem, and while we can give you some
    ideas from experience - You should use them to ask your
    doctor, or, possibly better yet, a new doctor. While your
    problem is common, do NOT take any solutions given here as
    answers, merely as POSSIBLE answers, to get professional
    advice on.

    1) I have never heard of your meds causing edema - You can
    check the side effects details on each website, or on
    the FDA website. I have not done an exhaustive search,
    merely a skim.


    I said CCB instead of a specific drug because over time the
    specific drug has changed. The website for one, Norvasc,
    specifically lists edema.
    norvasc.comabout One of the otheres
    Procardia, lists swelling, which I guess means edema.

    However ( it was a [censored] to find, everyplace talks about
    topical minoxidil ), I couldn't find edema as a side effect
    of minoxidil.

    Quoted message said:

    2) I, and many of my friends (all fat old diabetics with
    mild heart problems) wrap our swollen leg(s). I use a 4"
    tubular bandage instead of a wrapping. Earlier threads
    show that a lot of others, mainly non US do the same.
    Cardiologists in the US seem to prefer wide Ace
    bandages. Orthopods seem to like tubular bandages for
    edema.

    if wrapping, start at the foot, and wrap evenly up up the
    top of the

    Quoted message said:

    calf, NOT from the top down.


    Sometimes the areas are hard, sometimes they get hard.
    Usually depending on how much sleep I get ( the less sleep
    the harder ). If it is soft, should I wrap it tightly?

    Also, the left leg has a hardening of sorts. How should I
    treat that, and how should I wra around that area.

    Quoted message said:

    3) keep your feet as high as possible when not walking. -
    it will keep the blood from pooling.

    4) walk or swim as much as you can confortablu. It will
    keep the blood pumping - don't overdo it.

    sitting or standing is BAD for your legs - walking or lying
    down is good.


    What about bicycling 😉

    If I sit, then should I elevate my legs?

    Also. I am a *big* Cubs fan. I decided a long time ago it
    was better to stand watching games and get a little exercise
    then watching either sitting or lying down.

    What if I move my feet. Not fast ( like doing a dance ). But
    for example moving them slowly side to side?

    Quoted message said:

    5) Are you on diuretics ? Lasix in particular is good for
    edema - it's original use was to treat edema. I was put
    on Lasix when I had a bad case of cellulites - I had
    gained about 30 lbs from the cellulites - I lost not 30,
    but 60 lbs !!! I now am on Lasix regularly, and my edema
    is under control. It appears that I was carrying around
    a LOT of excess fluid, most of which settled in my legs
    (particularly my right leg)


    Yes. HCTZ not Lasix. For a year and a half. Maybe it's not
    effective and it's time to change.

    Quoted message said:


    Thad O said:

    I'm suffering from leg edema something fierce. For a long
    time it was only my left leg, but recently mny left leg
    got real bad and my right leg started to join it.

    My doctor said it was because of some of my BP drugs (
    Calcium channel blocker, and minoxidyl ), and took me off
    of minoxidyl.

    The edema is present so long and so harshly that it
    worries me. Recently something bothered me. If it is the
    case that the drugs are the cause then wouldn't I have
    bilateral leg edema? I would think that some systemic
    cause would produce bilateral edema.


  4. "hard" swelling in the legs is called "woody edema" and is
    treated the same as any other edema - in any case, wrap as
    tightly as you can without cutting off circulation..

    In general, any exercise is good, but don't overdo it.
    Swimming and water aerobics in a therapy pool is REAL good.

    Thad O said:
    Ted Rosenberg said:

    cc'd by email

    Well, I can only speak from my personal experience.

    Edema is a complex problem, and while we can give you some
    ideas from experience - You should use them to ask your
    doctor, or, possibly better yet, a new doctor. While your
    problem is common, do NOT take any solutions given here as
    answers, merely as POSSIBLE answers, to get professional
    advice on.

    1) I have never heard of your meds causing edema - You can
    check the side effects details on each website, or on
    the FDA website. I have not done an exhaustive search,
    merely a skim.

    I said CCB instead of a specific drug because over time
    the specific drug has changed. The website for one,
    Norvasc, specifically lists edema.
    norvasc.comabout One of the otheres
    Procardia, lists swelling, which I guess means edema.

    However ( it was a [censored] to find, everyplace talks about
    topical minoxidil ), I couldn't find edema as a side
    effect of minoxidil.

    Quoted message said:

    2) I, and many of my friends (all fat old diabetics with
    mild heart problems) wrap our swollen leg(s). I use a
    4" tubular bandage instead of a wrapping. Earlier
    threads show that a lot of others, mainly non US do the
    same. Cardiologists in the US seem to prefer wide Ace
    bandages. Orthopods seem to like tubular bandages for
    edema.

    if wrapping, start at the foot, and wrap evenly up up the
    top of the

    Quoted message said:

    calf, NOT from the top down.

    Sometimes the areas are hard, sometimes they get hard.
    Usually depending on how much sleep I get ( the less sleep
    the harder ). If it is soft, should I wrap it tightly?

    Also, the left leg has a hardening of sorts. How should I
    treat that, and how should I wra around that area.

    Quoted message said:

    3) keep your feet as high as possible when not walking. -
    it will keep the blood from pooling.

    4) walk or swim as much as you can confortablu. It will
    keep the blood pumping - don't overdo it.

    sitting or standing is BAD for your legs - walking or
    lying down is good.

    What about bicycling 😉

    If I sit, then should I elevate my legs?

    Also. I am a *big* Cubs fan. I decided a long time ago it
    was better to stand watching games and get a little
    exercise then watching either sitting or lying down.

    What if I move my feet. Not fast ( like doing a dance ).
    But for example moving them slowly side to side?

    Quoted message said:

    5) Are you on diuretics ? Lasix in particular is good for
    edema - it's original use was to treat edema. I was put
    on Lasix when I had a bad case of cellulites - I had
    gained about 30 lbs from the cellulites - I lost not
    30, but 60 lbs !!! I now am on Lasix regularly, and my
    edema is under control. It appears that I was carrying
    around a LOT of excess fluid, most of which settled in
    my legs (particularly my right leg)

    Yes. HCTZ not Lasix. For a year and a half. Maybe it's not
    effective and it's time to change.

    Quoted message said:
    Thad O said:

    I'm suffering from leg edema something fierce. For a long
    time it was only my left leg, but recently mny left leg
    got real bad and my right leg started to join it.

    My doctor said it was because of some of my BP drugs (
    Calcium channel blocker, and minoxidyl ), and took me off
    of minoxidyl.

    The edema is present so long and so harshly that it
    worries me. Recently something bothered me. If it is the
    case that the drugs are the cause then wouldn't I have
    bilateral leg edema? I would think that some systemic
    cause would produce bilateral edema.

    --
    "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
    history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
    observing from the present" Glen Cook

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