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  1. I was surfing the web, looking for information, when I came
    upon this project. It seems quite amazing that I could
    contribute something. Have any of you tried it?

    grid.orgcancer "A landmark research
    project has begun that allows people to make a real
    difference in the fight against cancer. The United Devices
    Cancer Research Project is asking you to volunteer your PC
    to help process molecular research being conducted by the
    Department of Chemistry at the University of Oxford in
    England and the National Foundation for Cancer Research. To
    participate, you simply download a very small, no cost, non-
    invasive software program that works like a screensaver: it
    runs when your computer isn't being used, and processes
    research until you need your machine. Your computer never
    leaves your desk, and the project never interrupts your
    usual PC use."

    I of course downloaded it (from
    grid.orgdownload.htm ) and am
    running it on my two PCs right now.

    I have a lot of friends ask me for "tech support". I'll
    be sure to encourage them all to run that program in
    exchange for my free help. 🙂

  2. Quoted message said:

    I of course downloaded it (from
    grid.orgdownload.htm ) and
    am running it on my two PCs right now.

    Heh, so, along with all the other often useless and
    irritating background processes a typical PC is saddled
    with, you can now completely dispense with any semblance of
    performance or usability, huh? My advice is don't bother,
    there is a better way to "fight cancer":

    vitaletherapeutics.orgvtltrtmn.htm

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  3. Kristofer D. Dale said:

    My advice is don't bother,

    tinyurl.com3ebhe J

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    grid.orgdownload.htm )

    Heh, so, along with all the other often useless and
    irritating background processes a typical PC is saddled
    with, you can now completely dispense with any semblance
    of performance or usability, huh?

    Actually, one of the PCs I've been running it on is a
    Pentium I, 166 MHz. (!!!) It hasn't slown it down one
    bit, because it only comes on when I'm not using the
    computer. (Of course results are coming out as fast as
    my AMD 2100, but every bit counts)

    Quoted message said:

    My advice is don't bother, there is a better way to "fight
    cancer": vitaletherapeutics.orgvtltrtmn.htm

    Sorry to be blunt, but your advice (and your site) seem
    to be quackery. This opinion is shared by others of
    course: nmsr.orgcontrovy.htm

    The project I mentionned is about developing long term,
    viable drugs for treatment. They are currently finishing
    phase II (identification of candidates to produce and
    test in animals, etc.). It is supported by Intel,
    Microsoft .NET, the University of Oxford and the
    National Foundation for Cancer Research.

    They are selling nothing. They will produce peer
    reviewed science.

  5. "Kristofer D. Dale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I of course downloaded it (from
    grid.orgdownload.htm ) and
    am running it on


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    two PCs right now.

    Heh, so, along with all the other often useless and
    irritating background processes a typical PC is saddled
    with, you can now completely dispense with any semblance
    of performance or usability, huh? My advice is don't
    bother, there is a better way to "fight cancer":

    vitaletherapeutics.orgvtltrtmn.htm

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged
    individualist, _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at
    large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

    Showing your ignorance again Chris?

    These distributed computing apps are set up to kick in as
    screen savers, or when the computer is otherwise idle.

    And anyway, anything which took resources away from some
    computers (like yours) would be a good thing, especially if
    it took 100% of the resources and stopped you pontificating
    on this NG.

  6. Quoted message said:

    (Of course results are coming out as fast as my AMD 2100,
    but every bit counts)

    Sorry for the typo: this should read "are NOT coming
    out as fast..."

  7. "J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Kristofer D. Dale said:

    My advice is don't bother,

    tinyurl.com3ebhe J

    Nice one Orac. I missed it first time around. Dale is just a
    legend in his own mind

  8. In article <s2Jyc.738161$oR5.349900@pd7tw3no>,

    Steph said:

    "J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Kristofer D. Dale said:

    My advice is don't bother,

    tinyurl.com3ebhe J

    Nice one Orac. I missed it first time around. Dale is just
    a legend in his own mind

    Sad but true.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
    |you inconvenience me with questions?"

  9. J said:

    tinyurl.com3ebhe

    mebbe if I repeat it often enough, "J", will get the
    message... ;^]

    groups.google.comgroups
    8&selm=mDT1b.1684%24oJ.332%40fe01.atl2.webusenet.com

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  10. Quoted message said:

    Actually, one of the PCs I've been running it on is a
    Pentium I, 166 MHz. (!!!) It hasn't slown it down one
    bit, because it only comes on when I'm not using the
    computer.

    Okay, I'll take your word for it, but I have seen cumulative
    effects from "background" processes bring many a mighty
    Wintel box to it's knee's, prompting desperate pleas for
    help from afflicted friends and family, and no end of bother
    to remedy on my part...

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry to be blunt, but your advice (and your site) seem
    to be quackery. This opinion is shared by others of
    course: nmsr.orgcontrovy.htm

    Sorry? It's your choice, be as sorry as you wish, it's no
    skin off my "knows". My "buddy" Dave over at NMSR is,
    unfortunately, a weasel and a liar, as I have documented in
    my own initmitable fashion:

    nmia.comfeedback.htm

    Quoted message said:

    The project I mentionned is about developing long term,
    viable drugs for treatment. They are currently
    finishing phase II (identification of candidates to
    produce and test in animals, etc.). It is supported by
    Intel, Microsoft .NET, the University of Oxford and the
    National Foundation for Cancer Research.

    What a coincidence, that is exactly what Galen Knight and
    Terence Scallen set out to do many moons ago. Unfortunately,
    they discovered that the real cause of cancer is the R&D
    system. Go figure...

    Quoted message said:

    They are selling nothing. They will produce peer
    reviewed science.

    Funny you should mention that, since the website (not mine,
    BTW) you importunately deem to be "quackery" on the basis of
    a thoroughly biased and discredited source, is in fact a fully-
    accredited 501(c) "non-profit" research and educational
    organization dedicted to presenting current knowledge
    concerning health, nutrition, and environmental issues. BTW,
    Knight and Scallen have already produced "peer-reviewed"
    science, and obtained worlwide patents for same, although
    their efforts have been derailed due to fraud and deceit, as
    I am gradually presenting here as time and events permit:

    nmia.comTheTruthWillSetYouFree.htm

    BTW, I did apologize for my unseemly behavioUr (paying
    attention, "Steph"😉, in another public forum:

    google.comgroups
    8&selm=aac684a.0312222121.3152c5cc%40posting.google.com

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  11. Steph said:

    Showing your ignorance again Chris?

    No, see below...

    Quoted message said:

    These distributed computing apps are set up to kick in as
    screen savers, or when the computer is otherwise idle.

    And what, pray tell, is "kicking in" the app? ;^]

    Quoted message said:

    And anyway, anything which took resources away from some
    computers (like yours) would be a good thing, especially
    if it took 100% of the resources and stopped you
    pontificating on this NG.

    Be that as it may, I can always trust you to come wading in
    where wise men fear to tread! As I stated before, I have
    seen many Windows based computers so inundated with
    "background" applications that they couldn't even boot up.
    As a veteran of many "resurrections", I can say with the
    authority of experience that one runs such "perks" with a
    certain amount of risk, especially if you are unaware what
    other "goodies" are lurking about. Far be it from me to
    impugn the assuredly considerable computer technical
    expertise of someone whose only other pursuits in life would
    seem to be digital photography and beaming radiation at
    tumors, with an

    matter to my attention... ;^]

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  12. Steph said:

    Nice one Orac. I missed it first time around.

    Comes as no surprise to me!

    Quoted message said:

    Dale is just a legend in his own mind

    Legend? Nope, but "notorious" comes to mind... ;^]

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  13. "Kristofer D. Dale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    matter to my attention... ;^]

    Classy as always, Chris. How's your boyfriend's legal
    problems?

  14. Orac said:

    Sad but true.

    I fully understand why you are so sad, but nevertheless, I
    salute your resolve to remain "true" to your cause... ;^]

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kristofer D. Dale said:
    Orac said:

    Sad but true.

    I fully understand why you are so sad,

    The sadness comes from observing you.

    Quoted message said:

    but nevertheless, I salute your resolve to remain "true" to
    your cause... ;^]

    You're the ideologue here, not me.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
    |you inconvenience me with questions?"

  16. Steph said:

    Classy as always, Chris.

    Boorish as per usual, "Stuph"...

    Quoted message said:

    How's your boyfriend's legal problems?

    I don't have a "boyfriend". Why, do you? ;^]

    BTW, I've been compiling some documents regarding the
    appeal process:

    nmia.comTheTruthWillSetYouFree.htm

    I will add more as time and events permit...

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  17. Orac said:

    You're the ideologue here, not me.

    Au contraire, mon sewer, you are a "true believer" more
    so than I. You have great faith in your "facts", as
    tainted as they are with preconception and stolid
    resistance to progress. But, don't mind me, I am only
    here to deliver a message:

    vitaletherapeutics.orgvtlbison.htm

    Hmm, apparently "jackrabbit" is another great source
    of cystine:

    nal.usda.govsearch

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kristofer D. Dale said:
    Orac said:

    You're the ideologue here, not me.

    Au contraire, mon sewer, you are a "true believer" more so
    than I. You have great faith in your "facts", as tainted
    as they are with preconception and stolid resistance to
    progress.

    Not at all. I listened to your "facts" and gave a rather
    fair assessment of the evidence presented.

    Quoted message said:

    But, don't mind me, I am only here to deliver a message:

    And that's all anyone needs to know about Dale. He is not
    the least bit objective, nor does he even try to be. Nor
    will he ever admit the slightest possibility that he is
    wrong. He is here to deliver his "message."

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
    |you inconvenience me with questions?"

  19. Orac said:

    And that's all anyone needs to know about Dale. He is not
    the least bit objective, nor does he even try to be. Nor
    will he ever admit the slightest possibility that he is
    wrong. He is here to deliver his "message."

    Heh, belaboring the obvious seems to be "Orac's" great
    calling in life. Galen Knight welcomes serious discourse
    from those capable of participating, and he can provide all
    the chemistry, research, and insight required to support his
    assewrtions. Orac, as per usual, is confused about my role
    here. I am not the scientist making the claims, that is
    Galen Knight's purview, and he can readily be contacted via
    his website at any time for any reason. To my knowledge, to
    date, not one of the "experts" here has ever taken the time
    to discuss his accomplishments with him, choosing instead to
    pontificate ad infinitum and ad nauseam on why Knight might
    be wrong. Given the fact that Knight has nothing to sell,
    nor does he promote an expensive, esoteric "formula" that
    will cure warts, genital herpes, and polish your brass to
    boot might just clue you in to his real motivation. As for
    me, I'm merely, as always, the messenger... ;^]

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  20. Kristofer D. Dale said:
    Orac said:

    And that's all anyone needs to know about Dale. He is
    not the least bit objective, nor does he even try to be.
    Nor will he ever admit the slightest possibility that he
    is wrong. He is here to deliver his "message."

    Heh, belaboring the obvious seems to be "Orac's" great
    calling in life. Galen Knight welcomes serious discourse
    from those capable of participating, and he can provide
    all the chemistry, research, and insight required to
    support his assewrtions. Orac, as per usual, is confused
    about my role here. I am not the scientist making the
    claims, that is Galen Knight's purview, and he can readily
    be contacted via his website at any time for any reason.
    To my knowledge, to date, not one of the "experts" here
    has ever taken the time to discuss his accomplishments
    with him,

    tinyurl.com3xrnq "Galen has declined the wonderful
    opportunity you have presented " J

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