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  1. I use a Protec Ahead converter in order to use an ahead stem
    on my threaded forks. It's absolutely fine except I think
    the shaft bolt is interefering with my compass. These bolts
    tend to be big lumps of steel and get magnetised too! ...My
    what? Yes, I've mounted a mini compass* to my top tube (best
    place for it but still not right).

    Does anyone know of a converter that comes with an alloy
    (aluminium) bolt, or of an alloy bolt that might fit?
    Preferebaly for less than 20 quid total expendature. Any
    inexpensive quill stems with alloy shaft bolts (that I
    could nick the bolt from)? Or perhaps you have a spare
    bolt? I don't mind risking it if no guarantee of fit
    (would sell on).

    Note: SJSC no longer stock Cinelli alloy bolts (I tried to
    order one).

    * Gelert Watch Strap compass from eBay (sold regularly
    there): cheap, small, light and neat. I have another
    one on another bike that points to the correct
    direction -- perhaps because it has a threadless
    headset and Ti frame.

    ~PB p[at]biggs[dot]tc

  2. Pete Biggs said:

    It's absolutely fine except I think the shaft bolt is
    interefering with my compass. These bolts tend to be big
    lumps of steel and get magnetised too! ...My what? Yes,
    I've mounted a mini compass* to my top tube (best place
    for it but still not right).

    That's the problem with new fangled technology. Just use the
    time and the angle of the sun to estimate your direction.
    Works fine here in Sunny Dundee
    (1)

    ..d

    [2] Driest city in UK and second sunniest last year.. or so
    I was told.

  3. David Martin said:

    [1] Driest city in UK and second sunniest last year.. or so
    I was told.

    Currently going for 'dreichest' instead....

    Roos

  4. On 24/6/04 1:59 pm, in article [email hidden],

    Roos Eisma said:

    Currently going for 'dreichest' instead....

    To translate for the southerners, dreich is an onomatopoeic
    word meaning a depressingly drizzly sort of day that isn't
    really raining enough to call it rain but is damp enough to
    not be dry and is grey and miserable. It's not so much a
    word as an emotion.

    ..d

  5. Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in news:cr8tq1-m3c.ln1
    @gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk:

    Quoted message said:

    Ye hae it aa wrang, my mannie. Gin there's a wee bit
    watter on the wind, there's a wee bit watter on the wind;
    nae mair's thon. 'Dreich' disnae hae tae be wet. Dreich is
    dreich. They southrons micht caa it 'depressing'.

    And I thought you were a sassenach! Dundonian can be a bit
    inpenetrable for many Scots - "Ah'll hae a pae n in ingin in
    in aa" means little to most people :-)

    Graeme

  6. On 25/6/04 11:17 am, in article
    [email hidden], "Graeme"

    Quoted message said:

    Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in news:cr8tq1-
    m3c.ln1 @gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk:

    Quoted message said:

    Ye hae it aa wrang, my mannie. Gin there's a wee bit
    watter on the wind, there's a wee bit watter on the wind;
    nae mair's thon. 'Dreich' disnae hae tae be wet. Dreich
    is dreich. They southrons micht caa it 'depressing'.

    Quoted message said:

    And I thought you were a sassenach! Dundonian can be a bit
    inpenetrable for many Scots - "Ah'll hae a pae n in ingin
    in in aa" means little to most people :-)

    I'm gradually being taught the language by my kids school
    friends. But anything to do with food is not a problem ;-)

    ..d

  7. David Martin said:


    I'm gradually being taught the language by my kids school
    friends. But anything to do with food is not a problem ;-)

    A Scottish friend's kids were referred by their school in
    the USA to a speech correctionist to sort out their speech
    impediment aka a Scottish accent.

    Tony

  8. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I use a Protec Ahead converter in order to use an ahead
    stem on my threaded forks. It's absolutely fine except I
    think the shaft bolt is interefering with my compass.

    You need to swing your bike and compass to measure the
    deviation between real and measured heading. You then need
    to calculate the positioning of the balls and the length if
    Flinders Bar to minimise the error. Following installation
    of the balls and bar, a further swing of the compass is
    needed to produce a correction card which should be sited
    near the compass display.

    Simple really.

    Kind regards, Al.

  9. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    A Scottish friend's kids were referred by their school in
    the USA to a speech correctionist to sort out their speech
    impediment aka a Scottish accent.

    Reminds me of one of the articles read out on The News Quiz
    a year or so ago. It told of a man in America who was
    released from psychiatric care when it was discovered that
    he was not depressed, only Scottish.

    Rev. I.M. Jolly perhaps? :-)

    Graeme

  10. David Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 24/6/04 1:59 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "Roos Eisma"

    Quoted message said:

    Currently going for 'dreichest' instead....

    To translate for the southerners, dreich is an
    onomatopoeic word

    No it isn't it has a long perdigree and is cognate with
    Swedish drjugr and no doubt similar cognates in other
    related languages.

    Quoted message said:

    meaning a depressingly drizzly sort of day that isn't
    really raining enough to call it rain but is damp enough
    to not be dry and is grey and miserable. It's not so much
    a word as an emotion.

    ..d

    Alan

  11. in message <[email hidden]>, Alan Edgey

    (') said:

    David Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 24/6/04 1:59 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "Roos Eisma"

    Quoted message said:

    Currently going for 'dreichest' instead....

    To translate for the southerners, dreich is an
    onomatopoeic word

    No it isn't it has a long perdigree and is cognate with
    Swedish drjugr and no doubt similar cognates in other
    related languages.

    'drear' in English, which means much the same?

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  12. "Aloysius" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I use a Protec Ahead converter in order to use an ahead
    stem on my threaded forks. It's absolutely fine except I
    think the shaft bolt is interefering with my compass.

    You need to swing your bike and compass to measure the
    deviation between real and measured heading. You then need
    to calculate the positioning of the balls and the length
    if Flinders Bar to minimise the error. Following
    installation of the balls and bar, a further swing of the
    compass is needed to produce a correction card which
    should be sited near the compass display.

    Simple really.

    Kind regards, Al.

    It would be nice to think that like steel framed ships, a
    steel framed bike's magnetic field would be determined by
    the direction it was facing when it was being built. Except
    it isn't, as brazing unlike hammering, doesn't really count.

    Curious

  13. Dr Curious said:

    It would be nice to think that like steel framed ships, a
    steel framed bike's magnetic field would be determined by
    the direction it was facing when it was being built.
    Except it isn't, as brazing unlike hammering, doesn't
    really count.

    Speaking of ships, Lord Kelvin invented a binnacle that
    incorporated corrector magnets and iron spheres to
    counteract the effects of the ship's iron. Pete could try
    mounting his compass in one of those.

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
    Mark Twain

  14. On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:36:47 GMT, Dave Kahn <[email hidden]>
    wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:
    Dr Curious said:

    It would be nice to think that like steel framed ships, a
    steel framed bike's magnetic field would be determined by
    the direction it was facing when it was being built.
    Except it isn't, as brazing unlike hammering, doesn't
    really count.

    Speaking of ships, Lord Kelvin invented a binnacle that
    incorporated corrector magnets and iron spheres to
    counteract the effects of the ship's iron. Pete could try
    mounting his compass in one of those.

    'invented /the/ binnacle, which...' </pedant>

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  15. in message <[email hidden]>, Gawnsoft

    (') said:

    On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:36:47 GMT, Dave Kahn
    <[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:
    Dr Curious said:

    It would be nice to think that like steel framed ships, a
    steel framed bike's magnetic field would be determined by
    the direction it was facing when it was being built.
    Except it isn't, as brazing unlike hammering, doesn't
    really count.

    Speaking of ships, Lord Kelvin invented a binnacle that
    incorporated corrector magnets and iron spheres to
    counteract the effects of the ship's iron. Pete could try
    mounting his compass in one of those.

    'invented /the/ binnacle, which...' </pedant>

    No, _a_ binnacle. There had been binnacles for hundreds of
    years before then, which served the important purpose of
    shielding the pilot light (which illuminated the compass,
    enabling you to pilot the ship, hence its name) from the
    wind. What made Kelvin's binnacle different from previous
    binnacles was that it _also_ incorporated magnetic
    correction.

    I do hate pedants who are just _wrong_.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
    jasmine.org.uk~simon Windows 95: You, you, you!
    You make a grown man cry...
    M. Jagger/K.
    Richards

  16. Simon Brooke said:


    I do hate pedants who are just _wrong_.

    What about those who are more than just wrong?

    Tony ;-)

  17. On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:35:02 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>
    wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:

    in message
    <[email hidden]>,
    Gawnsoft ([email hidden]-

    spam.net') said:

    On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:36:47 GMT, Dave Kahn
    <[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:48:52 +0100, "Dr Curious"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >It would be nice to think that like steel framed ships,
    >a steel framed bike's magnetic field would be determined
    >by the direction it was facing when it was being built.
    >Except it isn't, as brazing unlike hammering, doesn't
    >really count.

    Speaking of ships, Lord Kelvin invented a binnacle that
    incorporated corrector magnets and iron spheres to
    counteract the effects of the ship's iron. Pete could try
    mounting his compass in one of those.

    'invented /the/ binnacle, which...' </pedant>

    No, _a_ binnacle. There had been binnacles for hundreds of
    years before then, which served the important purpose of
    shielding the pilot light (which illuminated the compass,
    enabling you to pilot the ship, hence its name) from the
    wind. What made Kelvin's binnacle different from previous
    binnacles was that it _also_ incorporated magnetic
    correction.

    I do hate pedants who are just _wrong_.

    Kelven invented '/the/ binnacle which' compensated for the
    effect of the ships metal hull.

    No other binnacle has done that sort of compensation before.

    His was not one of many competing designs.

    --
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  18. Gawnsoft said:


    Kelven invented '/the/ binnacle which' compensated for the
    effect of the ships metal hull.

    No other binnacle has done that sort of compensation
    before.

    His was not one of many competing designs.

    I go with "a binnacle". Its "Kelvin invented a (type of)
    binnacle which...." or "Kelvin invented the magnetically
    compensated binnacle" You can only use the definite
    article with the specific binnacle he invented whereas you
    should use the indefinite article in the former because
    the binnacle is not a specific binnacle and has to be
    qualified by the clause which defines what type of
    binnacle it is he invented.

    uk.rec.cycling.grammar anyone?

    Tony

  19. On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:28:08 +0100, "Tony Raven"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I go with "a binnacle". Its "Kelvin invented a (type of)
    binnacle which...." or "Kelvin invented the magnetically
    compensated binnacle"

    "It's only me from over the sea" said Binnacle Bill
    the sailor...

    IGMC

    Guy
    --
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  20. On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:28:08 +0100, "Tony Raven"
    <[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:
    Gawnsoft said:


    Kelven invented '/the/ binnacle which' compensated for
    the effect of the ships metal hull.

    No other binnacle has done that sort of compensation
    before.

    His was not one of many competing designs.

    I go with "a binnacle". Its "Kelvin invented a (type of)
    binnacle which...." or "Kelvin invented the magnetically
    compensated binnacle" You can only use the definite article
    with the specific binnacle he invented whereas you should
    use the indefinite article in the former because the
    binnacle is not a specific binnacle

    Using 'the' and 'which' together automatically makes
    it specific.

    Quoted message said:

    and has to be qualified by the clause which defines what
    type of binnacle it is he invented.

    uk.rec.cycling.grammar anyone?

    Tony

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