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  1. This is getting silly now. First myself, then Peter Minn and
    now Howard Peel who frequents this NG now and again and who
    is the author of the Bikezone site mentioned in another
    thread is the victim this time. Howard has in the past
    mentioned the lack of policing of uninsured drivers (one of
    his criticisms of Humberside Police) which encourages hit
    and run incidents.

    This letter is such an obvious fake and in any case Howard
    would not be bothered about a traffic jam. In addition, it
    mentions a dangerous railway crossing that Howard has
    campaigned for years to get fixed so that cyclists don't
    slip on the rails like dozens have done over the years.

    You can barely imagine someone so pathetic that instead of
    using reasoned arguments they have to stoop this low.

    Are you going to set the record straight Howard? I'd be on
    the blower to the editor to investigate this to see if they
    can trace the culprit (clue - she wants 30 mph signs
    putting up).

    Starts:

    I Was on Spring Bank West last Wednesday in a long, long
    line of traffic, which I thought was caused by an accident.

    When I eventually got to Walton Street railway crossing, I
    realised what the traffic jam was all about.

    It was caused by the police stopping and checking all
    vehicles to see if they were insured, taxed and with an MoT
    certificate and it took seven, yes seven, police cars to
    accomplish this.

    It's a complete disgrace the way this police manpower is
    used.

    H Peel,

    Pickering Road,

    Hull.

  2. On 2/7/04 11:30 am, in article [email hidden], "Simon

    Mason said:

    I Was on Spring Bank West last Wednesday in a long, long
    line of traffic, which I thought was caused by an
    accident.

    When I eventually got to Walton Street railway crossing, I
    realised what the traffic jam was all about.

    It was caused by the police stopping and checking all
    vehicles to see if they were insured, taxed and with an
    MoT certificate and it took seven, yes seven, police cars
    to accomplish this.

    It's a complete disgrace the way this police manpower
    is used.

    I suppose a reply would be something along the lines of:

    attempting to ensure that motorists (who only kill n per
    year in humberside) are brought to book for such petty
    crimes as driving an unroadworthy vehicle with the potential
    to kill innocent bystanders (quote a couple of relevant
    cases here), they should instead be focussing on real crimes
    such as the neighbours with the stereo a bit loud, or
    preventing murders ( y last year).

    Signed the real Howard Peel.

    I suppose you could threaten the editor with a small claims
    court action for every time he prints a letter that falsely
    purports to be from you.

    ..d

  3. David Martin said:

    I suppose a reply would be something along the lines of:

    Quoted message said:

    attempting to ensure that motorists (who only kill n per
    year in humberside)

    I don't imagine that using the H********e word will get you
    far in the HDM these days...

    Roger

  4. On 2/7/04 1:58 pm, in article [email hidden],

    Roger Hughes said:

    I don't imagine that using the H********e word will get
    you far in the HDM these days...

    Why not? It's all the south anyway..

    ;-)

    ..d

  5. Hi Simon,

    I am not at all sure that letter it is from a certain person
    we know and love and who has a face like a melted plastic
    ashtray... For one thing it seems someone living in Mr
    Minn's street and just happening to have my name also has a
    letter in 'The West Hull Advertiser' this week demanding
    that conscription be brought back!

    Could be low level intimidation from someone pro-car, anti-
    speed camera anti-cycling nut. They might even be a member
    of the ABD who are known, allegedly, for sending in multiple
    bogus letters in an attempt to give the illusion they have
    widespread support. Or perhaps just some crank who will come
    round and murder us all in our beds...

    I have contacted the Mail about this. We'll see what they
    come back with.

    Regards,

    Howard.

  6. On 2 Jul 2004 07:53:18 -0700 someone who may be
    [email hidden] (Howard) wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    Could be low level intimidation from someone pro-car, anti-
    speed camera anti-cycling nut. They might even be a member
    of the ABD who are known, allegedly, for sending in
    multiple bogus letters in an attempt to give the illusion
    they have widespread support.

    Another of their tactics is to write letters to people who
    have disagreed with them in the newspapers. These letters
    follow a script, the script in their how to campaign manual
    I gather. They start off by alleging that the sender has
    been misrepresented, they then threaten vague legal action.
    The intention is to get the recipient to stop writing to
    the papers.

    I am very sorry to say that I have never had such a letter.
    I will have to try harder.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number
    F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK
    government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  7. Simon Mason said:

    This is getting silly now. First myself, then Peter Minn
    and now Howard Peel who frequents this NG now and again
    and who is the author of the Bikezone site mentioned in
    another thread is the victim this time.

    I'd like to see a fake letter under my Usenet ID, but I
    doubt they'd print it. From ZT Undeniable Esq.

  8. [email hidden] (Howard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Simon,

    I am not at all sure that letter it is from a certain
    person we know and love and who has a face like a melted
    plastic ashtray... For one thing it seems someone living
    in Mr Minn's street and just happening to have my name
    also has a letter in 'The West Hull Advertiser' this week
    demanding that conscription be brought back!

    Could be low level intimidation from someone pro-car, anti-
    speed camera anti-cycling nut. They might even be a member
    of the ABD who are known, allegedly, for sending in
    multiple bogus letters in an attempt to give the illusion
    they have widespread support. Or perhaps just some crank
    who will come round and murder us all in our beds...

    I have contacted the Mail about this. We'll see what they
    come back with.

    Regards,

    Howard.

    What "worries" me is that whoever this is used my address
    of 4 years ago! This would mean that this person might save
    all letters going back at least that far, since the online
    letters do not go back to 2000. The Mail should at least
    make some attempt to check up on the writer's identity by
    matching names and addresses in the electoral register.

    Simon

  9. Simon Mason said:

    You can barely imagine someone so pathetic that instead of
    using reasoned arguments they have to stoop this low.

    It sounds quite an achievement to get three fake letters
    published. As with Usenet trolls, your best bet is to laugh
    with the perpetrator.

  10. Quoted message said:

    What "worries" me is that whoever this is used my address
    of 4 years ago!

    Simon

    I sold my house on Pickering road 12 years ago!

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