3000 to steeplechase

K.Soza GY@haddockandchips said:

for a man, how much time do you take off roughly, over
barriers....as a % even...say, my time is 9 min for the
flat 3000, what should it be over the barriers??

On record times, the difference is 35-40 seconds. That
scales to 45 seconds or so at your pace. But that's a tough
goal, because it assumes that you're no more affected by the
barriers than the top athletes.

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Quoted message said:

On record times, the difference is 35-40 seconds.

That is not to say that every top class steeplechaser
can run the 3000m 35s faster or that no steeplechaser
can run his main event less than 35s slower than he does
the 3000m:-)

(OTOH not every steeplechasers PBs or SBs on both are o
equal quality or reflect his true potential.)

Quoted message said:

That scales to 45 seconds or so at your pace. But that's a
tough goal, because it assumes that you're no more
affected by the barriers than the top athletes.

The faster you run, the easier it is to get airborne over
the hudles and the less extra energy is required. This may
or not be so, though:-)

When female runners were finally allowed to compete in the
steeplechase, their times were AFAIK in the region of 70-90s
slower than their 3000m times. The gap has narrowed down
among the international top, but it´s still in that ballpark
for instance among Finnish women who only compete about once
a year (for the title). (Note that the hurdles are 15cm
lower than in the male event.)

It would be a safe - and I hope not impolite:-) - guess to
say that a 9min male runner shouldn´t expect to be less than
60s slower in the steeplechase. At least not in his first
season at it.

Anders (who´s heard that the steeplechase is usually the
event with least - as in: by showing up you´re in the points
- number of participants at Masters´ Champ´s)

Anders Lustig said:

Anders (who´s heard that the steeplechase is usually the
event with least - as in: by showing up you´re in the
points - number of participants at Masters´ Champ´s)

; ) One of the local collegiate runners made NCAA nationals
in steeplechase. The story on tv was that he saw people
running steeplechase, and it looked like they were running
slow enough for him. He apparently has trouble with mental
focus in 5k, but with barriers every 100m in steeplechase,
it keeps his attention focused 🙂 (that was from an
interview with him on tv, so sound bites might be taken out
of context a little, but he looked like he would've been
using a "😉" if writing on r.r)

Dot

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