Diabetic retinopathy: treatment with antioxidants

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By the way, are you seriously implying that eating meat is
against god or christianity? Have you even read the bible?
You must think you are better than god because animals are
good enough for him. If meat is good enough for god it is
certainly good enough for man, but not you huh? How do those
two insignificant quotes show that eating animals is bad or
that jesus is a vegetarian. Here are some quotes for you.

Genesis chapter 18:

"And the Lord appeared unto him (Abraham) in the plains of
Mamre. . .And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetched a calf
tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted
to dress it...And he took butter, and milk, and the calf
which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood
by them under the tree, and they did eat."

Mmmmm now God knows good eats when he sees it. Butter, milk,
and tender beef yum. Nothing vegetarian about that. Foods we
can all benefit from eating more of. Now I always thought
god had infinite wisdom but maybe you should still inform
him about the dangers of animal foods and saturated just to
make sure. We wouldnt want him dropping dead from heart
disease. I can just imagine a lowly delusional mortal trying
to inform god what to eat and what not to eat.

Mark chapter 7: Quotes from Jesus

"There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him
can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those
are they that defile the man...because it goeth not into his
heart, but into his belly, and goeth out into the draught?
`This he said', making all meats clean."

First Timothy Chapter 4: I like this one!!

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times
some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing
spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared
with a hot iron;

Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats,
which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of
them which believe and know the truth."

hehe, speaking lies and hypocrisy, commanding to abstain
from meats, sounds like he is describing vegan animal rights
fanatics perfectly. What foresight

"For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be
refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things,
thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up
in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou
hast attained."

Now if that makes a good minister of jesus does that make
your words doctrines of devils?? haha

Romans Chapter 14: This one is good too.

"Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to
doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all
things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs."

It really is hard to comprehend how full of [censored] you are.
Claiming that there is a "medical message" in the bible and
it is to not eat meat!!! What are you smoking?? Are you
serious?? Talk about self delusion. Why dont you add those
quotes to your freakin site along with your TWO sorry
quotes. I really can not imagine how you take yourself
seriously or even get up in the morning knowing what a fraud
you are. Or is that where the self delusional part comes in?
Anyway I got tired of seeing your damn links and decided to
call you on what a joke you are since no one else seems to
be doing it. Nothing personal 🙂

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Subject: Re: Diabetic retinopathy: treatment with antioxidants
From: [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
Date: 7/1/2004 1:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time
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By the way, are you seriously implying

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Arch Soc Esp Oftalmol. 2004 Jun;79(6):289-94. Related
Articles, Links

[Oxidative stress in a model for experimental diabetic
retinopathy: treatment with antioxidants]

[Article in Spanish]

Miranda M, Muriach M, Johnsen S, Bosch-Morell F, Araiz J,
Roma J, Romero FJ.

Universidad Cardenal Herrera-CEU y Fundacion Oftalmologica
del Mediterraneo.

PURPOSE: Diabetic retinopathy is the primary cause of
blindness in developed countries, and though strict glycemic
control is desirable to prevent complications, this is not
always achievable. Thus, adjunctive therapies are needed to
help in preventing or delaying the onset of diabetic
complications. We have studied the biochemical and
functional changes in the retina of diabetic mice, and the
ability of ebselen and lutein, two antioxidants, to reverse
these effects, using as a comparison the effect of insulin
therapy. METHODS: Alloxan injection was used to achieve
hyperglycemia. Malondialdehyde
(MDA) concentration in blood and glutathione peroxidase
(GPx) activity in eye homogenate were measured. Serial
electroretinograms (ERG) were recorded. RESULTS: MDA
concentration in the blood was high in diabetic
animals. GPx activity in eye homogenate decreased in
the diabetic conditions. Maximal electroretinogram
amplitude decreased in diabetic animals with respect
to controls. Ebselen and lutein restored MDA levels,
GPx activity and ERG amplitude, and had no effect on
glycemia. CONCLUSION: These results call for further
studies on ebselen or lutein as adequate adjunctive
therapies for diabetes (Arch Soc Esp Oftalmol 2004;
79: 289-294).

PMID: 15221675 [PubMed - in process]

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Who loves ya. Tom

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Subject: Re: Diabetic retinopathy: treatment with
antioxidants From: [email hidden] (Wolfbrother)
Date: 7/1/2004 1:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time Message-id:
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By the way, are you seriously implying

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Serious question Tom......

Why is it alright for you to snip other people's posts, but
no one is allowed to snip yours ?

D

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Serious question Tom......

Why is it alright for you to snip other people's posts,
but no one is allowed to snip yours ?

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Simply because he is posting off .. charter ..

Is this a religious ..newsgroup ..?

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Looks religous to me !

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That is what one might call a .. signature .. line ..

It is what a person puts at the end of their .. posts ..

If they .. care .. to ..

Let me propose for YOU ..

"I am unfit as a childcarer .."

"Children tend to appear at hospitals .. when I am in ..
position of ..

care

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"Avoid .. me .."

"I am a .. danger to .. children .."

Does THAT about .. sumitup .. ?

Come on then - publish the results of the police checks &
criminal record bureau checks that have been done on me as
well :o) Oh Tommy, your fascination with stalking me though
newsgroups is quite amazing. Am I that fascinating ?

I'm coming to Canada in a few weeks time - perhaps we
could meet up ?

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Subject: Re: Diabetic retinopathy: treatment with
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Subject: Re: Diabetic retinopathy: treatment with
antioxidants

Arch Soc Esp Oftalmol. 2004 Jun;79(6):289-94. Related
Articles, Links

[Oxidative stress in a model for experimental diabetic
retinopathy:

treatment

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with antioxidants]

[Article in Spanish]

Miranda M, Muriach M, Johnsen S, Bosch-Morell F, Araiz J,
Roma J, Romero

FJ.

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Universidad Cardenal Herrera-CEU y Fundacion
Oftalmologica del

Mediterraneo.

So that is the results of the police checks & criminal
record bureau checks that have been done on me :o)

As I said, I'm coming to Canada in a few weeks time -
perhaps we could meet up for a ber or two ?