Cigarette Smoking, Atkins/Low Carb: learn from history.What cost Free Press.

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Steve Randy Shi

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5 July 2004, 10:49 UTC #1

STEVE BAYT (Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)

So, this article's research and analysis took much
longer than the objective of 48 hours. For now that
millions of Americans have been brainwashed by the
Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a matter of
a year or so until the annual 992,000 average
American deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act to
ARDS-Atkins Related Death Syndrome.

Heart disease is virtually entirely by eating too
much fat and cholesterol. Other causes comprise a
very small percent. So people can do the math as to
how many deaths have been attributed to Atkins and
related diets. As they can do the math for how the
death toll will increase due to Atkins' increased
advertising.

The science is unquestioned. Atkins in 35 years has
been condemned and virtually every health and
nutrition entity has warned the media about
accepting advertising even implying a Low Carb or
Atkins life style is not a death sentence.

In April 2004 the federal bureau in charge of Beer
and Wine licenses made it illegal for beer, wines
or any alcoholic beverage to even imply that being
low carb is healthy. The FDA is presently trying to
make mandatory on all Low Carb products, some sort
of disclaimer about Atkins' fatal consequences and
the necessity of consuming at least 100 mgs of
complex carbohydrates a day.

It's rathere symbolic that marketers have recently
made up a term "Carbphoia" as was done with
"AIDSphobia". For AIDS And Atkins pretty much do the
same thing both biologically. And Atkins is
presenting the same false immpression that was done
with homophobia.

Atkins and Low Carb has more fatal
consequences than cigarette smoking, according
to thousands of health entities not
financially connected to Atkins. The marketing
for Atkins is the same type as with smoking.
For nearly a half-century cigarette smoking
portrayed as being cool-Joe Camel and The
Marlboro Man started in the early 1950's.

In 1965, a year after the surgeon general's first
report on smoking, the first law was passed to
have all cigarette ads and packages have health
warnings. Through the years, the warnings and not
allowed advertising methods have increased. All
radio and non-cable TV stations can't even air
commercials for cigarettes according to FCC
regulations.

Yet, millions of people continue to smoke and
die.

Press Releases and requests to media outlets
from thousands of health entities to not run
Atkins or Low Carb Ads have produced, well,,, a
media that will run anything. Just like TV,
radio, magazines and radio stations glorified
smoking, they are now glorifying the low carb
lifestyle (or more appropriately called low carb
death style).

The only thing that can be done in the short
term is to hope that once Atkins sufferers get
back to a healthy lifestyle before there are
so many people having heart attacks that
America doesn't have enough doctors and
hospitals to deal with them. Of course, 35% of
people who suffer heart attacks, due almost
entirely by too much fat and too few carbs to
sustain heart functions, die before even
arriving at the hospital.

Someone who starts on the Atkins Death Sentence
today has about 2-4 years before being near a
heart attack. Hopefully, those 65% who make it
to coronary care units will be told by doctors
to stop with Atkins.

Unfortunately, lawsuits are unlikely to prevail
against Atkins due to a legal concept called
"Assumption of Risk" which has for decades
protected cigarette companies from having to pay
anything. When the FDA eventually decides on a
warning for Atkins similar to the 1994 DSHEA with
nutritional supplements, I hope it reads something
like." EVERY HEALTH AUTHORITY CONDOMNS ATKINS.
CONTINUED LOW CARB HIGH FAT AND PROTEIN DIET WILL
RESULT IN MANY POTENTIAL FATAL CONSEQUENCES."

The first warning for cigarettes was fairly
lame: "Smoking may be hazardous to your health."
Hopefully, with Atkins the FDA won't play around
with such lame disclaimers and get straight to
the sort of disclaimer mandated in 1978.

Similar to how America learned about
terrorism by 911, Americans (if this Atkins
brainwashing continues) will have to ask
whether the first amendment worth millions of
Americans suffering heart attacks, kidney
disease, stroke, brain damage and then death.
For the first amendment is what protects the
media from running Atkins adverting. 911
taught us to act proactively to potential
threats. Yet, library shelves are filled with
potential health threats, collecting cobwebs,
as was Atkins a year ago.

The media has a choice; each newspaper, TV
station etc. can get millions of dollars in
ad revenue or act responsibly. Tragically,
the media's value is to make money instead
of helping save lives.

If the present advertising trend continues,
similar to cigarette smoking, Atkins ads by
late 2005 will be replaced with Public
Service Announcements about how "those tens
of millions who have become coronary ticking
time bombs can defuse themselves and get
back to a healthy lifestyle."

Of course it wasn't until 1990 until the
first PSA for using condoms was run on a
non-cable network (Fox) which at the time
was a very struggling network. By the time
Fox ran the first Condom PSA, 200,000
Americans had already died.

There was a newspaper chain (with tobacco
financial interests) THE MEMPHIS PUBLISING
COMPANY that wouldn't run cigarette ads
with the surgeon general warning in the
early 1970's. The Tennessee and US
Attorney General had to virtually take
over the newsroom of many Memphis
Publishing Company publications to
guarantee ads ran with the warning. (Leech
vs. Memphis Publishing Company)

Presently, there is a branch of the Federal
Trade Commission called the National
Advertising Review Board that reviews
deceptive ads and if the advertiser is
"found guilty" the advertiser is forced to
place corrective advertising.

Based on the pathetic irresponsibility of
the media promoting the Atkins Death
Sentence, which could lead to millions of
ARDS. Perhaps the best thing to do would be
to fine the media for running the
advertising along with the advertiser.

The fine to the medium (that is a singular
noun form of media referring to a single
member of the media) would be twice the
amount that was billed to the advertiser.

It is clear that the media that have barely
mentioned Senate Bill 722 and HR. 3377,
which would effectively ban supplements
while promoting Atkins Low Carb, does not
deserve the First Amendment. Through
American history a FREE PRESS has had
generally more tragedy than benefit-
Pentagon Papers etc.

Similar to cigarette smoking, the Atkins
death sentence takes at least 2 years to
prevail. And unlike AIDS there is a cure.
Not one single person who started on the
Atkins Low Carb death style, say about 6
months ago when the advertising rush
started has suffered any permanent health
risk and can go back to a low fat, low
cholesterol, high nutrient dense diet
without burdening their loved ones with
hospitalization and funerals.

If anything comes of this Atkins epidemic is
that maybe the first amendment might finally
be amended. For its hard to tell which is
worse. That Americans can be brainwashed by
advertising. Or that the media ignores lives
for money.

Atkins isn't a fad, its potential epidemic.
You can get

can't get ARDS with just one month or even a year of Atkins
So, there is hope…..

Love Means Never Having To Say, You're Sorry….

STEVE BAYT

It's unkown when my next Atkins bashing article will be
done. Maybe not until July 11th.

Jbuch

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5 July 2004, 10:50 UTC #2

Steve Randy Shilts Bayt said:
STEVE BAYT (Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)
So, this article's research and analysis took much
longer than the objective of 48 hours. For now that
millions of Americans have been brainwashed by the
Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a matter
of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average
American deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act
to ARDS-Atkins Related Death Syndrome.

Bunch'a Bull ...

The whole story is written with fat phobia dripping from
each letter.

Read recent special article in the latest Scientific
American special issue on Longevity. The article on
Atherosclerosis is especially significant. "The long-
held conception of how the disease develops turns out to
be wrong."

sciam.comtoc.cfm
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Atherosclerosis: The New View by Peter Libby

It causes chest pain, heart attack and stroke, leading to
more deaths every year than cancer. The long-held conception
of how the disease develops turns out to be wrong

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5 July 2004, 10:50 UTC #3

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Must have been written by an RD. They are so full of stupid
advice. Like = just eat less calories per day. That advice
has condemned millions to yo = yo dieting and death from
gaining back more weight than they took off.

"Steve Randy Shilts Bayt" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message =
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:
STEVE BAYT (Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)
=20 20
So, this article's research and analysis took much
longer than the objective of 48 hours. For now that
millions of Americans have been brainwashed by the
Atkins Low Carb Death Sentence, it's only a matter
of a year or so until the annual 992,000 average
American deaths makes AIDS look like a warm-up act
to ARDS-Atkins Related Death Syndrome.

Where is your study? hmmmmmmm

Quoted message said:
=20
Heart disease is virtually entirely by eating too
much fat and cholesterol. Other causes comprise a
very small percent. So people can do the math as
to how many deaths have been attributed to Atkins
and related diets. As they can do the math for
how the death toll will increase due to Atkins'
increased advertising.

You make a simplistic statement to describe what in fact is
a many = faceted face of heart disease.

Quoted message said:
=20
The science is unquestioned. Atkins in 35 years
has been condemned and virtually every health and
nutrition entity has warned the media about
accepting advertising even implying a Low Carb or
Atkins life style is not a death sentence.

The science is not unquestioned except by you. This diatribe
against = Atkins seems to be a religion with you.

Quoted message said:
=20
In April 2004 the federal bureau in charge of
Beer and Wine licenses made it illegal for beer,
wines or any alcoholic beverage to even imply
that being low carb is healthy. The FDA is
presently trying to make mandatory on all Low
Carb products, some sort of disclaimer about
Atkins' fatal consequences and the necessity of
consuming at least 100 mgs of complex
carbohydrates a day.

How fatal is i?. I have been on Atkins for 5 years, no
breaks. No fruit = or sugar and certainly no starch. I am
much stricter than the average = Atkins dieter. It is
because I need to be in order to maintain a healthy =
weight. Again that is no starch or sugar in 5 years. I must
be dead. = Dah. I am in fact healthier by a long shot than
when I started with = Atkins.=20

Quoted message said:
=20
It's rathere symbolic that marketers have recently
made up a term "Carbphoia" as was done with
"AIDSphobia". For AIDS And Atkins pretty much do
the same thing both biologically. And Atkins is
presenting the same false immpression that was
done with homophobia.

Oh God, Homophobia and carbophobia. The same thing in your
mind. You = would make a great religious zealot. Maybe your
are one. Zealotry has = always been unhealthy. Lighten up a
little.=20

Quoted message said:
=20
Atkins and Low Carb has more fatal
consequences than cigarette smoking, according
to thousands of health entities not
financially connected to Atkins. The marketing
for Atkins is the same type as with smoking.
For nearly a half-century cigarette smoking
portrayed as being cool-Joe Camel and The
Marlboro Man started in the early 1950's.

Show me the study. These wild statements you make as if
they were fact = are truly pathetic. A clear sign of wild
eyed zealotry.

Quoted message said:
=20
In 1965, a year after the surgeon general's
first report on smoking, the first law was
passed to have all cigarette ads and packages
have health warnings. Through the years, the
warnings and not allowed advertising methods
have increased. All radio and non-cable TV
stations can't even air commercials for
cigarettes according to FCC regulations.
=20
Yet, millions of people continue to smoke and
die.=20

Dah, It is very very addicting.

Quoted message said:
=20
Press Releases and requests to media outlets
from thousands of health entities to not run
Atkins or Low Carb Ads have produced, well,,,
a media that will run anything. Just like TV,
radio, magazines and radio stations glorified
smoking, they are now glorifying the low carb
lifestyle (or more appropriately called low
carb death style).

I wonder what you think of the high carb death style. It has
produced a = national epdidemic of type II diabetes. Type II
maims and kills.=20

Quoted message said:
=20
The only thing that can be done in the short
term is to hope that once Atkins sufferers
get back to a healthy lifestyle before there
are so many people having heart attacks that
America doesn't have enough doctors and
hospitals to deal with them. Of course, 35%
of people who suffer heart attacks, due
almost entirely by too much fat and too few
carbs to sustain heart functions, die before
even arriving at the hospital.

Show me the study. Just more of the same unsubstantiated
drivel. Do you = have a brain. Have you ever heard of double
blind studies. Do you know = that any reputable scientist
listens to studies not apocryphal drivel.

Quoted message said:
=20
Someone who starts on the Atkins Death
Sentence today has about 2-4 years before
being near a heart attack. Hopefully, those
65% who make it to coronary care units will
be told by doctors to stop with Atkins.

Been on it over 5 years, according you you I am dead. My
wife has been = on it 6 years. She also must be dead. She is
actually very much alive = downstairs right now.=20

Quoted message said:
=20
Unfortunately, lawsuits are unlikely to prevail
against Atkins due to a legal concept called
"Assumption of Risk" which has for decades
protected cigarette companies from having to pay
anything. When the FDA eventually decides on a
warning for Atkins similar to the 1994 DSHEA
with nutritional supplements, I hope it reads
something like." EVERY HEALTH AUTHORITY CONDOMNS
ATKINS. CONTINUED LOW CARB HIGH FAT AND PROTEIN
DIET WILL RESULT IN MANY POTENTIAL FATAL
CONSEQUENCES."

Who are your health authorities??? You? Again, SHOW ME
THE STUDIES!!

Quoted message said:
=20
The first warning for cigarettes was fairly
lame: "Smoking may be hazardous to your
health." Hopefully, with Atkins the FDA won't
play around with such lame disclaimers and get
straight to the sort of disclaimer mandated in
1978.

There are clear long term studies to substantiate the
risk of smoking. = There are none that indicate a risk
for Atkins.

Quoted message said:
=20
Similar to how America learned about
terrorism by 911, Americans (if this Atkins
brainwashing continues) will have to ask
whether the first amendment worth millions
of Americans suffering heart attacks,
kidney disease, stroke, brain damage and
then death. For the first amendment is what
protects the media from running Atkins
adverting. 911 taught us to act proactively
to potential threats. Yet, library shelves
are filled with potential health threats,
collecting cobwebs, as was Atkins a year
ago.

911 and Atkins, the hysteria is rising.=20

Quoted message said:
=20
The media has a choice; each newspaper, TV
station etc. can get millions of dollars
in ad revenue or act responsibly.
Tragically, the media's value is to make
money instead of helping save lives.
=20
If the present advertising trend
continues, similar to cigarette smoking,
Atkins ads by late 2005 will be replaced
with Public Service Announcements about
how "those tens of millions who have
become coronary ticking time bombs can
defuse themselves and get back to a
healthy lifestyle."

Sure

Quoted message said:
=20
Of course it wasn't until 1990 until the
first PSA for using condoms was run on a
non-cable network (Fox) which at the time
was a very struggling network. By the
time Fox ran the first Condom PSA,
200,000 Americans had already died.

Aids and Atkins again. More hysteria. God, get over
yourself.

Quoted message said:
=20
There was a newspaper chain (with tobacco
financial interests) THE MEMPHIS PUBLISING
COMPANY that wouldn't run cigarette ads
with the surgeon general warning in the
early 1970's. The Tennessee and US
Attorney General had to virtually take
over the newsroom of many Memphis
Publishing Company publications to
guarantee ads ran with the warning. (Leech
vs. Memphis Publishing Company)
=20
Presently, there is a branch of the
Federal Trade Commission called the
National Advertising Review Board that
reviews deceptive ads and if the
advertiser is "found guilty" the
advertiser is forced to place corrective
advertising.

Your obsessive comparison of aids, smoking, and homophobia,
with Atkins = is very indicative of your lack research,
scientific understanding, or = any common sense. I can only
surmise you are a vegan with an agenda that = has nothing to
do with our health. Vegans seem to become religious =
zealots about their life style. Their holier than thou
attitude about = not eating meat is truly pathetic.=20

Quoted message said:
=20
Based on the pathetic irresponsibility of
the media promoting the Atkins Death
Sentence, which could lead to millions of
ARDS. Perhaps the best thing to do would
be to fine the media for running the
advertising along with the advertiser.
=20
The fine to the medium (that is a singular
noun form of media referring to a single
member of the media) would be twice the
amount that was billed to the advertiser.
=20
It is clear that the media that have
barely mentioned Senate Bill 722 and HR.
3377, which would effectively ban
supplements while promoting Atkins Low
Carb, does not deserve the First
Amendment. Through American history a
FREE PRESS has had generally more tragedy
than benefit-Pentagon Papers etc.
=20
Similar to cigarette smoking, the Atkins
death sentence takes at least 2 years to
prevail. And unlike AIDS there is a cure.
Not one single person who started on the
Atkins Low Carb death style, say about 6
months ago when the advertising rush
started has suffered any permanent health
risk and can go back to a low fat, low
cholesterol, high nutrient dense diet
without burdening their loved ones with
hospitalization and funerals.

Again, My wife and I must already be dead. Your logic is
completely = illogical. Maybe you also belong to PETA,
another holier than thou = assemblage of zealots looking
for a cause.

Quoted message said:
=20
If anything comes of this Atkins epidemic
is that maybe the first amendment might
finally be amended. For its hard to tell
which is worse. That Americans can be
brainwashed by advertising. Or that the
media ignores lives for money.

The sugar lobby in congress is far more powerful that
Atkins. The Atkins = foundation funds no lobbyists in
congress, the sugar industry funds = many.=20

Quoted message said:
=20
Atkins isn't a fad, its potential epidemic.
You can get

Quoted message said:
can't get ARDS with just one month or even a year of
Atkins So, there is hope...

There is hope you will adjust to a life without hysteria
and zealotry.

Quoted message said:
=20 20 20
Love Means Never Having To Say, You're Sorry..
=20 20
STEVE BAYT
=20
=20
=20 20
It's unkown when my next Atkins bashing article will be
done. Maybe not until July 11th.

I can't wait for your further drivel. ------
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<DIV>Must
have been written = by an RD. They=20 are so full
of stupid advice. Like just eat less calories per
day. That = advice=20 has condemned millions to yo
yo dieting and death from gaining back more =
weight=20 than they took off.</DIV>
<DV> </DIV>
<DVI>"Steve Randy Shilts
Bayt" <<A =

href=3D""][email hidden]">[email hidden]</A>> wrote=20 in message
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<DVII>> STEVE
BAYT > (Parma/Brook = Park,=20 Ohio) >
 > >
So, = this=20
article's research and analysis took much longer
than > the = objective of=20 48 hours. For
now that millions of Americans have > been =
brainwashed by=20 the Atkins Low Carb Death
Sentence, it's only a > matter of a year =
or so=20 until the annual 992,000 average
American > deaths makes AIDS look = like
a=20 warm-up act to ARDS-Atkins Related
Death > Syndrome.</DIV>
<DVIII> </DIV>
<DIX>Where is your=20
study? hmmmmmmm >
 >=20

Heart disease is = virtually=20 entirely by eating
too much fat > and cholesterol. Other causes
= comprise a=20 very small percent. So
people > can do the math as to how many =
deaths have=20 been attributed to Atkins >
and related diets. As they can do the = math
for=20 how the death toll will > increase
due to Atkins' increased=20
advertising.</DIV>
<DX> </DIV>
<DXI>You make a = simplistic
statement=20 to describe what in fact is a
many faceted face of heart=20
disease. > >=20

The science is = unquestioned.=20 Atkins in 35
years has been > condemned and virtually
every health = and=20 nutrition entity has
warned > the media about accepting =
advertising even=20 implying a Low Carb or >
Atkins life style is not a death=20
sentence.</DIV>
<DXII> </DIV>
<DXIII>The science is = not
unquestioned=20 except by you. This diatribe
against Atkins seems to be a religion with=20
you. > > =

In=20 April 2004 the federal bureau in charge of
Beer and Wine > = licenses made=20 it
illegal for beer, wines or any alcoholic beverage
to > even = imply that=20 being low carb is
healthy. The FDA is presently trying > to
make = mandatory=20 on all Low Carb products, some
sort of disclaimer > about Atkins' =
fatal=20 consequences and the necessity of
consuming at > least 100 mgs of = complex=20
carbohydrates a day.</DIV>
<DXIV> </DIV>
<DXV>How fatal is = i?. I have=20
been on Atkins for 5 years, no breaks. No fruit or
sugar and certainly = no=20 starch. I am much
stricter than the average Atkins dieter. It is
because = I need=20 to be in order to maintain a
healthy weight. Again that is no starch or = sugar
in=20 5 years. I must be dead. Dah. I
am in fact healthier by a = long shot=20 than when
I started with Atkins. > >=20
It's
rathere symbolic that = marketers=20 have recently
made up a > term "Carbphoia" as was done
with = "AIDSphobia".=20 For AIDS And
Atkins > pretty much do the same thing both
= biologically. And=20 Atkins is >
presenting the same false immpression that was
done = with=20 homophobia.</DIV>
<DXVI> </DIV>
<DXVII>Oh God, = Homophobia and=20
carbophobia. The same thing in your mind. You
would make a great = religious=20 zealot. Maybe
your are one. Zealotry has always been unhealthy.
Lighten = up a=20 little. >
 >=20 &-
nbsp; = Atkins and=20 Low
Carb has more fatal consequences than >
cigarette smoking, = according=20 to thousands of
health entities not > financially connected
to = Atkins. The=20 marketing for Atkins is the
same > type as with smoking. For = nearly
a=20 half-century cigarette smoking >
portrayed as being cool-Joe Camel = and The=20
Marlboro Man started in the > early
1950's.</DIV>
<DXVIII> </DIV>
<DXIX>Show me the = study. These wild=20
statements you make as if they were fact are truly
pathetic. A clear = sign of=20 wild eyed
zealotry. > >=20 -

In 1965, a = year=20 after the surgeon general's
first report on > smoking, the first = law
was=20 passed to have all cigarette ads
and > packages have health = warnings.=20
Through the years, the warnings and not >
allowed advertising = methods have=20
increased. All radio and non-cable >
TV stations can't even = air=20 commercials for
cigarettes according to FCC >
regulations. > =

> = -
Yet,=20 millions of people continue to
smoke and die. </DIV>
<DXX> </DIV>
<DXXI>Dah, It is very = very=20
addicting. > >=20 &nbsp-
; -
Press =

Releases and requests to media outlets from >
thousands of health = entities=20 to not run Atkins or Low
Carb Ads have > produced, well,,, a media = that=20
will run anything. Just like TV, radio, > magazines
and radio = stations=20 glorified smoking, they are
now > glorifying the low carb = lifestyle (or=20 more
appropriately called low > carb death
style).</DIV>
<DXXII> </DIV>
<DXXIII>I wonder what you = think of
the=20 high carb death style. It has produced a
national epdidemic of type II = diabetes.=20 Type
II maims and kills. > >=20
&-
nbsp; = The=20 only thing that
can be done in the short term is to > hope
that = once=20 Atkins sufferers get back to a
healthy lifestyle before > there = are so=20
many people having heart attacks that America
doesn't > have = enough=20 doctors and
hospitals to deal with them. Of course, 35%
of > = people who=20 suffer heart attacks,
due almost entirely by too much fat > and =
too few=20 carbs to sustain heart functions, die
before even arriving > at = the=20
hospital.</DIV>
<DXXIV> </DIV>
<DXXV>Show me the = study. Just more
of=20 the same unsubstantiated drivel. Do you have
a brain. Have you ever = heard of=20 double blind
studies. Do you know that any reputable scientist
listens = to=20 studies not apocryphal
drivel. > >=20 &n-
bsp; &nb-
sp; = Someone=20 who starts on the Atkins
Death Sentence today has > about 2-4 = years
before=20 being near a heart attack. Hopefully,
those 65% > who make it to = coronary=20
care units will be told by doctors to stop >
with = Atkins.</DIV>
<DXXVI> </DIV>
<DXXVII>Been on it over 5 = years,=20
according you you I am dead. My wife has been on
it 6 years. She also = must be=20 dead. She is
actually very much alive downstairs right now. =
 >=20 > &nb-
sp; =
Unfortunately,=20 lawsuits are unlikely to prevail
against > Atkins due to a legal = concept=20
called "Assumption of Risk" which has > for
decades protected = cigarette=20 companies from
having to pay anything. > When the FDA
eventually = decides=20 on a warning for Atkins
similar to the > 1994 DSHEA with =
nutritional=20 supplements, I hope it reads
something > like." > EVERY = HEALTH=20
AUTHORITY CONDOMNS ATKINS. CONTINUED LOW CARB HIGH
FAT > AND = PROTEIN DIET=20 WILL RESULT IN
MANY POTENTIAL FATAL CONSEQUENCES."</DIV>
<DXXVIII> </DIV>
<DXXIX>Who are your = health=20
authorities??? You? Again, SHOW ME THE
STUDIES!! > > =

&nbsp-
; The = first=20 warning for cigarettes was fairly
lame: "Smoking > may be = hazardous to=20 your
health." Hopefully, with Atkins the FDA > won't
play = around=20 with such lame disclaimers and get straight
to the > sort of = disclaimer=20 mandated in
1978.</DIV>
<DXXX> </DIV>
<DXXXI>There are clear = long term=20
studies to substantiate the risk of smoking. There
are none that = indicate a=20 risk for
Atkins. > >=20 &n-
bsp; &nb-
sp; &= nbsp; =20 Similar to how America
learned about terrorism by 911, > Americans
= (if=20 this Atkins brainwashing continues) will
have to ask > whether the = first=20
amendment worth millions of Americans
suffering > heart attacks, = kidney=20
disease, stroke, brain damage and then
death. > For the first = amendment is=20
what protects the media from running
Atkins > adverting. 911 = taught=20 us
to act proactively to potential threats. >
Yet, library shelves = are=20 filled with
potential health threats, > collecting
cobwebs, as was = Atkins=20 a year
ago.</DIV>
<DXXXII> </DIV>
<DXXXIII>911 and Atkins, = the hysteria
is=20 rising. > >=20 &-
nbsp; &n-
bsp; &= nbsp; =20 The media
has a choice; each newspaper, TV station >
etc. can get = millions=20 of dollars in ad
revenue or act responsibly. > Tragically,
the = media's=20 value is to make money instead of
helping save > lives. > = >=20
&-
nbsp; &= nbsp; =20 If
the present advertising trend continues, similar
to > cigarette =

smoking, Atkins ads by late 2005 will be replaced
with > Public = Service=20 Announcements about how
"those tens of millions who > have become =
coronary=20 ticking time bombs can defuse themselves and
get > back to a = healthy=20 lifestyle."</DIV>
<DXXXIV> </DIV>
<DXXXV>Sure > >=20
&-
nbsp; &=
nbsp; =20 Of course it wasn't
until 1990 until the first PSA > for using =
condoms was=20 run on a non-cable network (Fox)
which at the > time was a very =
struggling=20 network. By the time Fox ran
the first > Condom PSA, 200,000 =

Americans had already died.</DIV>
<DXXXVI> </DIV>
<DXXXVII>Aids and Atkins = again. More=20
hysteria. God, get over yourself. >
 >=20 &-
nbsp; &=
nbsp; =20 There was a newspaper chain
(with tobacco financial > interests) =
THE=20 MEMPHIS PUBLISING COMPANY that wouldn't run
cigarette > ads with = the=20 surgeon
general warning in the early 1970's. The >
Tennessee and = US=20 Attorney General had to
virtually take over the > newsroom of many =
Memphis=20 Publishing Company publications to
guarantee > ads ran with the = warning.=20
(Leech vs. Memphis Publishing Company) >
 >=20 &-
nbsp; &=
nbsp; =20 Presently, there is a
branch of the Federal Trade > Commission =
called the=20 National Advertising Review Board
that reviews > deceptive ads and = if the=20
advertiser is "found guilty" the
advertiser > is forced to place=20
corrective advertising.</DIV>
<DXXXVIII> </DIV>
<DXXXIX>Your obsessive = comparison of=20
aids, smoking, and homophobia, with Atkins is very
indicative of your = lack=20 research, scientific
understanding, or any common sense. I can only =
surmise you=20 are a vegan with an agenda that has
nothing to do with our health. = Vegans seem=20 to
become religious zealots about their life style.
Their holier than = thou=20 attitude about
not eating meat is truly pathetic. > =
 >=20 -
&=
nbsp; =20 Based on the pathetic
irresponsibility of the media > promoting =
the Atkins=20 Death Sentence, which could lead to
millions of > ARDS. Perhaps = the best=20
thing to do would be to fine the media for >
running the = advertising along=20 with the
advertiser. > >=20 &nbsp-
; -
&= nbsp; =20 The fine to the
medium (that is a singular noun form > of
media = referring=20 to a single member of the
media) would be twice the > amount that =
was=20 billed to the advertiser. >
 >=20 &-
nbsp; &=
nbsp; =20 It is clear that the
media that have barely mentioned > Senate =
Bill 722=20 and HR. 3377, which would effectively
ban supplements > while = promoting=20
Atkins Low Carb, does not deserve the First
Amendment. > Through = American=20 history a
FREE PRESS has had generally more tragedy >
than=20 benefit-Pentagon Papers etc. >
 >=20 &-
nbsp; &=
nbsp; =20 Similar to cigarette smoking,
the Atkins death > sentence takes at = least
2=20 years to prevail. And unlike AIDS there is
a > cure. Not one = single person=20 who
started on the Atkins Low Carb death >
style, say about 6 = months ago=20 when the
advertising rush started has > suffered any
permanent = health risk=20 and can go back to a
low fat, low > cholesterol, high nutrient =
dense diet=20 without burdening their
loved > ones with hospitalization and=20
funerals.</DIV>
<DXL> </DIV>
<DXLI>Again, My wife = and I must=20
already be dead. Your logic is completely
illogical. Maybe you also = belong to=20 PETA,
another holier than thou assemblage of zealots
looking for a=20 cause. > >=20
&-
nbsp; &= nbsp; =20 If
anything comes of this Atkins epidemic is
that > maybe the = first=20 amendment might
finally be amended. For its hard to > tell
which = is worse.=20 That Americans can be
brainwashed by advertising. > Or that the =
media=20 ignores lives for money.</DIV>
<DXLII> </DIV>
<DXLIII>The sugar lobby = in congress
is=20 far more powerful that Atkins. The Atkins
foundation funds no lobbyists = in=20 congress,
the sugar industry funds many. >
 >=20 &-
nbsp; &=
nbsp; =20 Atkins isn't a fad, its potential
epidemic. You can get > HIV or = other=20

get ARDS=20 with just one month or even a year of
Atkins So, there > is=20 hope...</DIV>
<DXLIV> </DIV>
<DXLV>There is hope you = will adjust=20
to a life without hysteria and zealotry. >
 > = >=20 > Love Means
Never Having To Say, You're Sorry.. >
 > =

> STEVE BAYT > >=20 &-
nbsp; &=
nbsp; =20 > > > It's unkown when
my next Atkins bashing = article will=20 be done.
Maybe > not until July 11th.</DIV>
<DXLVI> </DIV>
<DXLVII>I
can't wait for your = further=20
drivel.</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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