BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?

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"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

I have a gas grill for cold weather and use charcoal
otherwise. Much better flavor.

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As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

It isn't even close for taste. Charcoal is much better.
OTOH, I grill a whole lot more with my gas grill.

Charcoal > Gas but

A lot of gas BBQ > a little charcoal + a lot of oven broiled

Marty

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Jeff no_this_isnt@my_email.com said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

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So what is wrong with a good old fashioned wood fire? :-)
I have TONS of firewood from pruning etc. (plus I landed
a truckload of Pecan wood when they took some trees down
at work) and I find I get a hotter bed of coals off of a
wood fire...

And it tastes mighty good!

K.

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Jeff no_this_isnt@my_email.com said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

On 3 Jul 2004 06:26:05 -0700, Jeff

no_this_isnt@my_email.com said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

People I know who cook in their backyards in the summer are
more interested in things other than whether their grilling
meets up to anyone else's standards of authenticity.

I've never heard such a debate or complaints from guests. I
have a charcoal grill myself, but I do appreciate the
offerings from a gas grill. If I had a gas grill I'd surely
grill more often because of the convenience.

It's my impression that people who write BBQ cookbooks
and/or who have the setup for serious BBQ are the ones
worried about authenticity.

The rest of us don't care. It's not that we couldn't
appreciate it; it's just not a priority. :>

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This is lame trolling. We all know gas is for suburban
yuppies and has nothing to do with real bbq.

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Quoted message said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

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Quoted message said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

hickory > charcoal >>>>>>>>>> gas

a.

In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff

no_this_isnt@my_email.com said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

Heat is heat.

But smoke is not smoke.

BBQ involves slow cooking over indirect heat at low
temperatures and the smkoe is important.

Typically BBQ involves a remove firebox.

So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume you
mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring via
the smoke.

Charcoal does not add to flavor. In fact, depending on how
you light it, you can get residual bad flavor from lighter
fluid. This is why starting charcoal in a chimneyt is a good
idea. No fluid. But the charcoal itself does not smoke nor
contrubute to flavor.

So if charcoal does not add flavor, what does?

The vaporization of the drippings from the meat and the
charring of the meat from the heat.

Depending on the type of internals, a gas grill can do
grilling the same way as a charcoal grill. It needs to be a
grill that properly vaporizes the drippings.

The huge advantage to a charcoal grill is heat regulation.
Douse coals with water and heat stops. Controlling flareups
on a gas grill can be more difficult, again depending on
the design.

"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

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"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
other grilling cookbooks.

I have a gas grill for cold weather and use charcoal
otherwise. Much better flavor.

Charcoal >>>>>>>>> gas for grilling.

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StephenJ said:

This is lame trolling. We all know gas is for suburban
yuppies and has nothing to do with real bbq.

You can't really be suburban *and* a yuppie.

nancy

Curly Sue said:

It's my impression that people who write BBQ cookbooks
and/or who have the setup for serious BBQ are the ones
worried about authenticity.

And here we have the reason these commercialized, ain't
worth eatin, [censored] for Q restaurants are springin up all
over the place. Their clientele just don't care what [censored]
they'll eat.

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"suburban yuppies"

Christian Muslims?

Miami Gators?

yup == young URBAN professionals

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In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff

no_this_isnt@my_email.com said:

As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
other grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

Heat is heat.

But smoke is not smoke.

BBQ involves slow cooking over indirect heat at low
temperatures and the smkoe is important.

Typically BBQ involves a remove firebox.

...remote... <sigh>

Quoted message said:

So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume
you mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring
via the smoke.

Charcoal does not add to flavor. In fact, depending on how
you light it, you can get residual bad flavor from lighter
fluid. This is why starting charcoal in a chimneyt is a
good idea. No fluid. But the charcoal itself does not
smoke nor contrubute to flavor.

So if charcoal does not add flavor, what does?

The vaporization of the drippings from the meat and the
charring of the meat from the heat.

Depending on the type of internals, a gas grill can do
grilling the same way as a charcoal grill. It needs to be
a grill that properly vaporizes the drippings.

The huge advantage to a charcoal grill is heat regulation.
Douse coals with water and heat stops. Controlling
flareups on a gas grill can be more difficult, again
depending on the design.

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"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
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As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
other grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

hickory > charcoal >>>>>>>>>> gas

a.

Pussie>>>>>>BBQ

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As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt
- not about politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
other grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

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debate.

The man's an expret. Wrote a book! I'll believe an expret
before some dumnass Canadian.

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As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.

"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
other grilling cookbooks.

enquirer.comloc grill03.htmlOpen ↗

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debate.

Preach it Brother Jefferson.

I use lump for grilling and wood for smoking (cherry, maple,
oak, hickory) with some lump tossed in every once in awhile
if I let my fire burn down too low.

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Steve Cutchen said:

So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume
you mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring
via the smoke.

The rest of us call it s-l-o-w cooking... and when invited
never turn up our noses at that kind of Q or offer up
virulent criticism about how they've hyjacked our acroynm.
With that said, we will continue throw our burgers on our
charcoal grills and unabashedly call it bbq.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Steve Cutchen said:

So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume
you mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring
via the smoke.

The rest of us call it s-l-o-w cooking... and when invited
never turn up our noses at that kind of Q or offer up
virulent criticism about how they've hyjacked our acroynm.
With that said, we will continue throw our burgers on our
charcoal grills and unabashedly call it bbq.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments