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The Butchery at Glenfeshie

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  1. Conservation Extremism and Barbarity

    The sickening sight of mutilated carcasses piled in a field
    following the helicopter herded slaughter of 600 deer at
    Glenfeshie Estate in Scotland is representative of current
    conservation fascist principles where it is no longer enough
    to plant trees or protect rare species without cruelly
    butchering wildlife that is competing for the same habitat.

    This philosophy, driven by political dogma and a desire for
    a national environmental identity, is only one short step
    away from the intolerant fanaticism of those who perpetrate
    ethnic cleansing against human populations.

    Conservation has now become synonymous with extremism and it
    is time the public condemned such cruelty by withdrawing
    support from the uncharitable charities that advocate and
    encourage such barbarity.

    So which charities advocate and encourage this killing and
    which ones should you consider boycotting?

    The following paragraph was part of a letter sent some time
    ago to Ross Finnie, MSP, Minister for the Environment and
    Rural Development:

    "We point out to the Minister that populations of deer in
    Scotland are at record levels and, according to the Deer
    Commission, red deer numbers are still increasing in most
    areas. The impact on the natural environment of the current
    high populations has been a major concern for many years
    with repeated requests from environmental organisations and
    others for higher culls and population reductions. A major
    drop in deer culls in the coming season would result in a
    further sharp rise in populations."

    The letter was signed on behalf of

    The John Muir Trust, National Trust for Scotland, Royal
    Society for the Protection of Birds Scotland, Ramblers
    Association Scotland, Woodland Trust Scotland, Millennium
    Forest for Scotland Trust, and WWF Scotland.

    Conservationists would have us believe that it is necessary
    to reduce deer numbers to an acceptable population level
    that doesn't cause ecological damage. When asked why the
    population has increased so rapidly, they tell us that deer
    reproduce prolifically and that there are no large
    predators, namely the wolf, left to control their numbers.
    On the face of it, that seems a reasonable explanation but
    it is more of a plausible excuse for hunters to enjoy their
    grizzly fun and conservationists to employ them to hunt in
    almost exactly the same way under the more respectable guise
    of culling.

    There is no doubt that wolves were predators of deer, but
    not for a very long time. The last wolf was killed in the UK
    around 1750, more than 250 years ago, and their numbers were
    in serious decline for many decades before that. So it is
    reasonable to assume that wolves have had little impact on
    deer for the past 300 - 350 years. With that in mind one
    could be excused for thinking that deer numbers would have
    escalated at an enormous rate over that period. But it is
    only in the last 50-60 years that their numbers have
    increased significantly, coinciding with a thriving hunting
    industry and reforestation that provides shelter.

    So is there a connection? Of course there is!

    To understand the whole sorry mess, one must examine the
    structure and covert allegiances between hunters and
    conservationists who form alliances within "deer management
    groups" that are overseen by the Deer Commission to maintain
    an artificially high deer population to satisfy the
    requirements of hunting estates. But as deer know no
    boundaries, the population expands to other areas unchecked,
    where they can damage unprotected saplings, ground flora and
    ground nesting habitats.

    This is when the deceit of the conservationists comes to the
    fore. Having supped with the hunters, they now tell us they
    need to cull deer to reduce the increase in population that
    the hunters were responsible for in the first place. The
    horrid cycle continues year after year.

    Why don't the conservationists abandon their hunting cronies
    and oppose the real reason for the deer population increase?
    Not a chance - it's all about money. The government via the
    Deer Commission wishes to maintain the hunting industry for
    tourism and the conservationists depend on government grants
    via the Forestry Authority to plant their trees etc.

    The fake conservationists won't bite the hand that feeds
    them and the deer are the losers as can be seen by the
    Butchery of Glenfeshie.

    Angus Macmillan www.con-servation.org.uk The website that
    exposes the CON in CONservation.

  2. "AMacmil304" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Conservation Extremism and Barbarity

    Quoted message said:


    Conservationists would have us believe that it is
    necessary to reduce deer numbers to an acceptable
    population level that doesn't cause ecological


    damage.

    Quoted message said:

    When asked why the population has increased so rapidly,
    they tell us that


    deer

    Quoted message said:

    reproduce prolifically and that there are no large
    predators, namely the


    wolf,

    Quoted message said:

    left to control their numbers. On the face of it, that
    seems a reasonable explanation

    so why complain if you agree its a reasonable thing ?

    Quoted message said:

    but it is more of a plausible excuse for hunters to enjoy
    their grizzly fun and conservationists to employ them to
    hunt in almost exactly


    the

    Quoted message said:

    same way under the more respectable guise of culling.

    actually most hunters dont like culling deer. for the simple
    fact that they cannot get rid of the large number of
    carcasses. there are far too many and far too much weight
    involved to be dragging around. hunters only enjoy shooting
    deer when theres a good chance of making money from it so
    that rules out your idea's about them enjoying "their
    grizzly fun"

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Butchery at Glenfeshie
    From: "Chris 159" [email hidden]
    Date: 27/06/04 13:13 GMT Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "AMacmil304" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040627075423.13554.00000730@mb-
    m12.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    Conservation Extremism and Barbarity

    Quoted message said:


    Conservationists would have us believe that it is
    necessary to reduce deer numbers to an acceptable
    population level that doesn't cause ecological


    damage.

    Quoted message said:

    When asked why the population has increased so rapidly,
    they tell us that


    deer

    Quoted message said:

    reproduce prolifically and that there are no large
    predators, namely the


    wolf,

    Quoted message said:

    left to control their numbers. On the face of it, that
    seems a reasonable explanation

    so why complain if you agree its a reasonable thing ?

    Quoted message said:

    but it is more of a plausible excuse for hunters to enjoy
    their grizzly fun and conservationists to employ them to
    hunt in almost exactly


    the

    Quoted message said:

    same way under the more respectable guise of culling.

    actually most hunters dont like culling deer. for the
    simple fact that they cannot get rid of the large number of
    carcasses. there are far too many and far too much weight
    involved to be dragging around. hunters only enjoy shooting
    deer when theres a good chance of making money from it so
    that rules out your idea's about them enjoying "their
    grizzly fun"

    Rubbish! They're paid for it by the fake conservatonists and
    enjoy their grizzly fun at the same time.

    Angus Macmillan www.con-servation.org.uk The website that
    exposes the CON in CONservation.

  4. "AMacmil304" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Butchery at Glenfeshie From: "Chris 159"
    [email hidden] Date: 27/06/04 13:13 GMT
    Daylight Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    "AMacmil304" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040627075423.13554.00000730@mb-
    m12.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    Conservation Extremism and Barbarity

    Quoted message said:


    Conservationists would have us believe that it is
    necessary to reduce


    deer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    numbers to an acceptable population level that doesn't
    cause ecological


    damage.

    Quoted message said:

    When asked why the population has increased so rapidly,
    they tell us


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deer

    Quoted message said:

    reproduce prolifically and that there are no large
    predators, namely


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    wolf,

    Quoted message said:

    left to control their numbers. On the face of it, that
    seems a


    reasonable

    Quoted message said:
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    explanation

    so why complain if you agree its a reasonable thing ?

    Quoted message said:

    but it is more of a plausible excuse for hunters to
    enjoy their grizzly fun and conservationists to employ
    them to hunt in almost


    exactly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    same way under the more respectable guise of culling.

    actually most hunters dont like culling deer. for the
    simple fact that


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cannot get rid of the large number of carcasses. there
    are far too many


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    far too much weight involved to be dragging around.
    hunters only enjoy shooting deer when theres a good
    chance of making


    money

    Quoted message said:
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    from it so that rules out your idea's about them enjoying
    "their grizzly fun"

    Rubbish! They're paid for it by the fake conservatonists
    and enjoy their grizzly fun at the same time.

    yes they are paid for it but theyre paid peanuts. i happen
    to know a few shooters that have had the chance to do a deer
    cull and they refuse every time because it is of no benefit
    to them whatso-ever.

    perhaps you should get to know peoples true feelings about
    these things before you blurt it out in public, rather than
    gathering your information from web-sites/ third parties

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