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  1. Hello all ๐Ÿ™‚

    I've just started to learn to ride, about 10 half hour
    sessions so far and have gotten to the stage where i can
    ride about 5 meters (not much I know) before I either fall
    off (getting good at that one) or I continue for about
    another 5-10 meters but the seat moves quite eractically
    between my legs and i can't keep it still.

    As i'm learning without knowing/seeing how it should be done
    i'm getting a bit stuck.

    I'm thinking i might be putting to much pressure on the
    pedals causing the seat to move around alot. I've
    started trying to slow down my ride which has helped the
    seat wobble.

    Any ideas/thoughts?

    Cheers norry

  2. If the seat is moving around a lot under you then you are
    very likely not keeping your weight on the seat.

    Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat;
    don't be afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in
    front of you.

    You will be amazed how little work it is for your legs when
    you're riding on flat ground and your weight is on the seat.

    Good luck, Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ

    --
    JJuggle - Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists

    '6th Annual LBI Unithon - Sat, June 5, 2004'
    (jjuggle.unicyclist.comlbiunithon)

    *Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Ball!*
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  3. Many thanks, will give that a try on tomorrow's session (on my lunch break
    from work).
    I'm trying to be patient but i can't wait untill I can ride properly ๐Ÿ™‚

    Cheers norry

    "JJuggle" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    .at.Unicyclist.com...

    Quoted message said:


    If the seat is moving around a lot under you then you are
    very likely not keeping your weight on the seat.

    Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat;
    don't be afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in
    front of you.

    You will be amazed how little work it is for your legs
    when you're riding on flat ground and your weight is on
    the seat.

    Good luck, Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ

    --
    JJuggle - Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists

    '6th Annual LBI Unithon - Sat, June 5, 2004'
    (jjuggle.unicyclist.comlbiunithon)

    *Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Ball!*
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  4. In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    JJuggle <[email hidden]>
    wrote: ) )If the seat is moving around a lot under you then
    you are very likely )not keeping your weight on the seat. )
    )Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat;
    don't be )afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in
    front of you. ) )You will be amazed how little work it is
    for your legs when you're )riding on flat ground and your
    weight is on the seat.

    In addition, make sure you have the seat high enough. Your
    leg should be nearly fully extended when your foot is at the
    bottom of your pedal stroke. If your seat is too low, it
    will be hard to put enough weight on it. -Tom

  5. I suggest maybe putting your seat a little higher unless it
    is quite high already. I found it great to have it really
    high when learning the went lower after I could ride really
    well, and put it even lower when I got into trials.

    --
    Robbie - Spoons Taste Good

    Jacinto is the king.
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  6. Thanks for all the advice. Unfortunately the seat post is at
    the highest point already and my legs are bent when my foot
    is at the bottom of the pedal.

    I will try and focus for the time being on not being so
    pedal heavy and actually sit on the saddle instead of
    balancing just above it which i tend to do at the moment. I
    think i might be buying a new saddle post however.

    I forgot to mention that there actually two of us here in
    work trying to learn unicycling ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thanks again. norry

    "Tom Holub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:G_5oc.95107$vn.261138@sea-
    read.news.verio.net...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]-
    yclist.com>, JJuggle
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ) )If the seat is moving around a lot under you then you
    are very likely )not keeping your weight on the seat. )
    )Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat;
    don't be )afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in
    front of you. ) )You will be amazed how little work it is
    for your legs when you're )riding on flat ground and your
    weight is on the seat.

    In addition, make sure you have the seat high enough. Your
    leg should be nearly fully extended when your foot is at
    the bottom of your pedal stroke. If your seat is too low,
    it will be hard to put enough weight on it. -Tom

  7. I learned to ride the same as you apperently (get on, fall
    off, repeat until frustrated) and it did take me a very long
    while to get it. However, my girlfriend (Annika) has
    recently learned to uni and we found that having someone
    (me!) walking alongside her and being a 'move-able support'
    really helped her. She got a chance to actually sit on the
    uni for a bit and get used to the whole weird feeling of
    being up there, but then also had a bit of support when it
    was needed rather than just having to fall off all the time.
    It's probably not practical for you to get one of your
    workmates to help you every lunch time, but if you can get a
    willing volounteer to assist you now and again (and give
    them shin gaurds to wear as well if you have them - it might
    save a few bruises and a friendship) then that might give
    you a good boost. Another tip is to try and pedal to
    somewhere, not just from one pedal stroke to the next. You
    don't want to jerk your pedal strokes, they want to be nice
    and steady and we found that focusing on trying to ride (for
    example) from one wall to another helps you to switch off
    the bit of your brain that wants you to pedal half a
    revolution at a time (then stop for a bit) instead. Oh, and
    I'm sure that I won't be the only one to say this, but it
    also just takes lots of practise.

    Good luck, Gary

    --
    Gary.Kelsall - One of the BJC 2004 organisers
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  8. If your legs are bent all the time, it's harder to control
    the wheel. Most unicycles that I see in stores, the 20" ones
    at least, have seat posts that would be too short for an
    average adult. Getting the seat high enough will indeed make
    things easier. Aside from that, the main thing you need is
    patience and persistence. I taught myself by trying to get
    from one wall of my apartment to the other, and it took me
    close to two weeks to do that consistently. I always get
    comments from people on the street about how they "tried one
    of those years ago, and couldn't do
    it." It invariably turns out that they just tried it a few
    times, didn't get past the point where it no longer seems
    obviously impossible, and gave up. You're developing a
    new set of reflexes, like learning how to walk, and just
    doing it over and over and over will gradually teach your
    body what to do and what not to do in order to stay on
    the thing. The amount of time you've taken to get to
    where you are now is not at all unusual.

    Seat adjusted Most of your weight on the seat Balls of your
    feet, not the arches, on the pedals Sit up straight Wrists
    guards are good Pain is weakness leaving the body

    --
    weeble - There can be only one... wheel

    ==============
    Another Joe in MN
    Level 2 and holding
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  9. Firstly, as everyone has said, weight on the saddle.

    Secondly, don't look down. Look where you're going. A
    distant object at eye level is good, or if you must look at
    the ground, look about 20 metres ahead.

    Thirdly, rhythm. A common beginner's mistake is to try to
    regain balance after every pedal stroke. Stomp, wobble,
    stomp, wobble, stomp, wobble etc. This is hard work. The
    unicycle should keep falling forwards, and the wheel should
    never quite catch up. So if you are always falling forwards,
    controlling your balance is simply a matter of adjusting how
    much pressure you're putting on the pedals, and how fast
    you're pedalling. If you try to regain your balance after
    every stroke or two, then you'll be reversing the direction
    of pressure on the pedals
    - and that's loads harder.

    Fourthly, set goals. Either count pedal strokes, or try to
    reach landmarks.

    Fifthly, as soon as you can ride confidently for 10 metres
    or so, introduce an element of challenge like trying to go
    round a corner, or zig zag between cones. Nothing too
    difficult. it's surprising how when you return to simple
    riding, it will seem easy.

    Practise hard.

    Have fun.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
    the fly, you get to eat [censored].
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  10. This little chant may help: "Heavy on the seat, potato-chips
    under the feet. Heavy on the seat, potato-chips under the
    feet. Heavy on the seat, potato-chips under the feet... you
    get the idea.

    When my daughters were learning to ride, they would
    repeat that phrase over and over as they would ride
    across the driveway.

    I also agree with having someone walk along side you for
    support. This allows you to ride several hundred feet before
    a fall. In my opinion, you are actually building memory in
    your hams and quads of what must happen for you to ride
    free. --chirokid--

    --
    chirokid - Wolfman 2004: Unicycle Catagory

    "Other than that, the best maintenance is to keep riding it as this
    helps to keep the eccentric nut on the saddle in optimal condition."
    quote by Mikefule

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  11. I was just thinking about that last night, KB. I am always
    looking at the floor, and thought that was a bad thing. But
    then I remembered learning how to drive, I would always be
    looking at the driver's side of the hood, instead of far
    along the road I was driving, so I wouldn't drift into the
    oncoming lane. It was a bad habit, but it disappeared once I
    had more driving practice.

    --
    digigal1 - 3 revs on carpet! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Omni for Uni and Uni for Omni!
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  12. Thanks for the advice, I think I might see about getting a
    larger seat post to see if that helps.

    The one thing I won't be doing is giving up ๐Ÿ™‚

    I'm solely looking forward to work now for the half an hour
    I get to practice on my unicycle. It does help that I've got
    a work mate that is also learning, and infact the sessions
    are becoming little social events for other workers who want
    to see what's going on ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thanks all again, this newsgroup has been a great
    inspiration for me.

    norry

    "weeble" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message .-"]news:[email hidden].-
    at.Unicyclist.com...

    Quoted message said:


    If your legs are bent all the time, it's harder to control
    the wheel. Most unicycles that I see in stores, the 20"
    ones at least, have seat posts that would be too short for
    an average adult. Getting the seat high enough will indeed
    make things easier. Aside from that, the main thing you
    need is patience and persistence. I taught myself by
    trying to get from one wall of my apartment to the other,
    and it took me close to two weeks to do that consistently.
    I always get comments from people on the street about how
    they "tried one of those years ago, and couldn't do
    it." It invariably turns out that they just tried it a few
    times, didn't get past the point where it no longer
    seems obviously impossible, and gave up. You're
    developing a new set of reflexes, like learning how to
    walk, and just doing it over and over and over will
    gradually teach your body what to do and what not to do
    in order to stay on the thing. The amount of time
    you've taken to get to where you are now is not at all
    unusual.

    Seat adjusted Most of your weight on the seat Balls of
    your feet, not the arches, on the pedals Sit up straight
    Wrists guards are good Pain is weakness leaving the body

    --
    weeble - There can be only one... wheel

    ==============
    Another Joe in MN Level 2 and holding
    ==============

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  13. Mikefule said:

    Secondly, don't look down. Look where you're going. A
    distant object at eye level is good, or if you must look at
    the ground, look about 20 metres ahead.

    I respectfully disagree. For an accomplished rider looking
    at the ground close by makes riding somewhat harder, indeed
    no real rider will do it as a rule. But I definitely
    remember that when I was learning it was easier to look down
    as compared to far away. It felt as if I could very well use
    the additional sensory (visual) input about what the wheel
    was doing.

    So I say look down if you want, it'll go away with time.

    I think the misconception is that what is easiest for me,
    must be easiest for you.

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
    --
    be sure to remove the saddle and simply sit on the seat
    post. this is far more comfortable - tennisgh22 on the
    comfort of Savage unis

  14. digigal1 said:

    But then I remembered learning how to drive, I would always
    be looking at the driver's side of the hood, instead of far
    along the road I was driving

    Don't take it that I sanctioned that behaviour...

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
    --
    be sure to remove the saddle and simply sit on the seat
    post. this is far more comfortable - tennisgh22 on the
    comfort of Savage unis

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