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  1. I have looked at SBS Sports tv programming and have seen that SBS will be
    showing every Sunday live on the tv at about 10pm ish besides the first
    Sunday. Normally this starts at about 11pm with Hodgey and Andrew Orsatti
    giving everyone a general overview on whats already happened and whats going
    to happen with the Aussies.

    Anyway, my gripe is not with them, but with the fact that these are Sunday
    stages. Last year they were lucky with the Sunday stages in that one of
    them went up L'alpe D'huez, and the other one went through the Pyrennes
    (bloody slept through alarm!), and then the Champs Elysees stage which in
    truth is quite boring because most of results are completed - last year
    again lucky as there were two Australians going for green.

    So what are this years Sunday stages?
    Stage 8 - Lamballe to Quimper (Quimper was where Phil Anderson won in 1991)
    .... nothing more than a flat stage then I would assume ...

    Stage 14 - Carcassonne to Nimes - another flat(tish) stage in between the
    Pyrenees and the Alps ... yawn :o

    Stage 20 - Champs Elysees stage which you already know of my opinion ...

    I guess living in Australia, any coverage is better than no coverage, but
    couldnt they have picked better stages to show, particularly in the Alps and
    Pyrenees, such as the mightly individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez?

    Am I being overcritical on what they have 'chosen' if they had the ability
    to? At least they have been good with the Euro coverage on Sunday mornings
    this year with newer races being shown (but all these races are organised by
    the Tour de France organisation ...)

    Only ten days to go ... at least there is the internet and there will be
    'live' internet audio ...

  2. chickasmith said:

    I have looked at SBS Sports tv programming and have seen that SBS will be
    showing every Sunday live on the tv at about 10pm ish besides the first
    Sunday. Normally this starts at about 11pm with Hodgey and Andrew Orsatti
    giving everyone a general overview on whats already happened and whats going
    to happen with the Aussies.

    Anyway, my gripe is not with them, but with the fact that these are Sunday
    stages. Last year they were lucky with the Sunday stages in that one of
    them went up L'alpe D'huez, and the other one went through the Pyrennes
    (bloody slept through alarm!), and then the Champs Elysees stage which in
    truth is quite boring because most of results are completed - last year
    again lucky as there were two Australians going for green.

    So what are this years Sunday stages?
    Stage 8 - Lamballe to Quimper (Quimper was where Phil Anderson won in 1991)
    ... nothing more than a flat stage then I would assume ...

    Stage 14 - Carcassonne to Nimes - another flat(tish) stage in between the
    Pyrenees and the Alps ... yawn :o

    Stage 20 - Champs Elysees stage which you already know of my opinion ...

    I guess living in Australia, any coverage is better than no coverage, but
    couldnt they have picked better stages to show, particularly in the Alps and
    Pyrenees, such as the mightly individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez?

    Am I being overcritical on what they have 'chosen' if they had the ability
    to? At least they have been good with the Euro coverage on Sunday mornings
    this year with newer races being shown (but all these races are organised by
    the Tour de France organisation ...)

    Only ten days to go ... at least there is the internet and there will be
    'live' internet audio ...

    Even though the mountain stages are possibly the most interesting,
    I'll watch _any_ road cycling on TV 🙂

    --
    Nick

  3. "chickasmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So what are this years Sunday stages?
    Stage 8 - Lamballe to Quimper (Quimper was where Phil Anderson won in


    1991)

    Quoted message said:

    ... nothing more than a flat stage then I would assume ...

    Stage 14 - Carcassonne to Nimes - another flat(tish) stage in between the
    Pyrenees and the Alps ... yawn :o

    Stage 20 - Champs Elysees stage which you already know of my opinion ...

    I guess living in Australia, any coverage is better than no coverage, but
    couldnt they have picked better stages to show, particularly in the Alps


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pyrenees, such as the mightly individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez?

    You will also have live coverage of Stage 16 Bourg d'Oisans to L'Alpe d"Huez
    15km (is this right?) time trial. Screening from 11.25pm on Wed 21st July.
    Get an early nap and set the alarm, or book a sickie.

    http://www.sbs.com.au/sport/sportcalendar.html?timeslot=&chosenweek=2004-07-18#

    Cheers
    Peter

  4. I dont think that counts as it doesnt say 'live' on it - this is likely to
    be a repeat of the 6pm program, as it is repeated late on SBS every night
    besides the days with the live coverage ...

    What do they have on foxtel regarding the tour?

    "Peter Signorini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "chickasmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So what are this years Sunday stages?
    Stage 8 - Lamballe to Quimper (Quimper was where Phil Anderson won in


    1991)

    Quoted message said:

    ... nothing more than a flat stage then I would assume ...

    Stage 14 - Carcassonne to Nimes - another flat(tish) stage in between


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pyrenees and the Alps ... yawn :o

    Stage 20 - Champs Elysees stage which you already know of my opinion ...

    I guess living in Australia, any coverage is better than no coverage,


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    couldnt they have picked better stages to show, particularly in the Alps


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pyrenees, such as the mightly individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez?

    You will also have live coverage of Stage 16 Bourg d'Oisans to L'Alpe


    d"Huez

    Quoted message said:

    15km (is this right?) time trial. Screening from 11.25pm on Wed 21st July.
    Get an early nap and set the alarm, or book a sickie.


    http://www.sbs.com.au/sport/sportcalendar.html?timeslot=&chosenweek=2004-07-18#

    Quoted message said:


    Cheers
    Peter

  5. On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:01:38 +1000, chickasmith <[email hidden]> Wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    I dont think that counts as it doesnt say 'live' on it - this is likely to

    From the URL below.......

    Live coverage of Stage 16. Bourg d'Oisans - L'Aipe d'Huez
    15 KM time trial (Delayed to SA, NT and WA)

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://www.sbs.com.au/sport/sportcalendar.html?timeslot=&chosenweek=2004-07-18#

    Quoted message said:


    Cheers
    Peter

    --

    Humbug

  6. Didn't someone here a while back say you can get the thing live
    on (free) New Caledonian satellite (in French of course)? Why
    can't SBS just re-broadcast that? Cost I guess...

  7. Oh now I see ... I was supposed to click on the link. Then I must have to
    click on all links then to confirm what is happening ...

    Many thanks (and previous apologies) for that ...

    "HUMBUG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:01:38 +1000, chickasmith


    <[email hidden]> Wrote :

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I dont think that counts as it doesnt say 'live' on it - this is likely


    to

    Quoted message said:


    From the URL below.......

    Live coverage of Stage 16. Bourg d'Oisans - L'Aipe d'Huez
    15 KM time trial (Delayed to SA, NT and WA)

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:



    http://www.sbs.com.au/sport/sportcalendar.html?timeslot=&chosenweek=2004-07-18#

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Cheers
    Peter

    --

    Humbug

  8. SBS have just published their press release regarding the Tour with 4 stages
    live including the individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez ... fantastic!!!
    I am looking forward to this one ...

    Their website www.sbs.com.au/tdf will also be updated from Friday July 2 ...

    I'm excited!

    "chickasmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have looked at SBS Sports tv programming and have seen that SBS will be
    showing every Sunday live on the tv at about 10pm ish besides the first
    Sunday. Normally this starts at about 11pm with Hodgey and Andrew Orsatti
    giving everyone a general overview on whats already happened and whats


    going

    Quoted message said:

    to happen with the Aussies.

    Anyway, my gripe is not with them, but with the fact that these are Sunday
    stages. Last year they were lucky with the Sunday stages in that one of
    them went up L'alpe D'huez, and the other one went through the Pyrennes
    (bloody slept through alarm!), and then the Champs Elysees stage which in
    truth is quite boring because most of results are completed - last year
    again lucky as there were two Australians going for green.

    So what are this years Sunday stages?
    Stage 8 - Lamballe to Quimper (Quimper was where Phil Anderson won in


    1991)

    Quoted message said:

    ... nothing more than a flat stage then I would assume ...

    Stage 14 - Carcassonne to Nimes - another flat(tish) stage in between the
    Pyrenees and the Alps ... yawn :o

    Stage 20 - Champs Elysees stage which you already know of my opinion ...

    I guess living in Australia, any coverage is better than no coverage, but
    couldnt they have picked better stages to show, particularly in the Alps


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pyrenees, such as the mightly individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez?

    Am I being overcritical on what they have 'chosen' if they had the ability
    to? At least they have been good with the Euro coverage on Sunday


    mornings

    Quoted message said:

    this year with newer races being shown (but all these races are organised


    by

    Quoted message said:

    the Tour de France organisation ...)

    Only ten days to go ... at least there is the internet and there will be
    'live' internet audio ...

  9. Glen F said:

    Didn't someone here a while back say you can get the thing live on
    (free) New Caledonian satellite (in French of course)? Why can't SBS
    just re-broadcast that? Cost I guess...

    Anyone know of someone/somewhere with one of those hubble-dishes
    strapped to their home?

    I say let's crash their joint and paaaaartaaayyyy😄

    Do any of the usual haunts (Melbourne-specific) like cafe racer or Cogs
    cafe have better coverage?

    --

  10. Ok not everybody is happy with the selected stages being shown on SBS.
    The Alpe D'Huez stage is fine but I , and I guess many others, would prefer
    to see some more of the mountain stages live, or the cobbled stage.

    Instead of just complaining here why don't we all write to SBS.
    It may not change the stages shown this year, but it might be better for
    next year.

    BTW I think the cycling coverage from SBS this year has been pretty good
    considering it is still a minor sport in this country.

    Peter

    "chickasmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    SBS have just published their press release regarding the Tour with 4


    stages

    Quoted message said:

    live including the individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez ... fantastic!!!
    I am looking forward to this one ...

    Their website www.sbs.com.au/tdf will also be updated from Friday July 2


    ....

    Quoted message said:


    I'm excited!

    "chickasmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have looked at SBS Sports tv programming and have seen that SBS will


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    showing every Sunday live on the tv at about 10pm ish besides the first
    Sunday. Normally this starts at about 11pm with Hodgey and Andrew


    Orsatti

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    giving everyone a general overview on whats already happened and whats


    going

    Quoted message said:

    to happen with the Aussies.

    Anyway, my gripe is not with them, but with the fact that these are


    Sunday

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stages. Last year they were lucky with the Sunday stages in that one of
    them went up L'alpe D'huez, and the other one went through the Pyrennes
    (bloody slept through alarm!), and then the Champs Elysees stage which


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    truth is quite boring because most of results are completed - last year
    again lucky as there were two Australians going for green.

    So what are this years Sunday stages?
    Stage 8 - Lamballe to Quimper (Quimper was where Phil Anderson won in


    1991)

    Quoted message said:

    ... nothing more than a flat stage then I would assume ...

    Stage 14 - Carcassonne to Nimes - another flat(tish) stage in between


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pyrenees and the Alps ... yawn :o

    Stage 20 - Champs Elysees stage which you already know of my opinion ...

    I guess living in Australia, any coverage is better than no coverage,


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    couldnt they have picked better stages to show, particularly in the Alps


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pyrenees, such as the mightly individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez?

    Am I being overcritical on what they have 'chosen' if they had the


    ability

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to? At least they have been good with the Euro coverage on Sunday


    mornings

    Quoted message said:

    this year with newer races being shown (but all these races are


    organised

    Quoted message said:

    by

    Quoted message said:

    the Tour de France organisation ...)

    Only ten days to go ... at least there is the internet and there will be
    'live' internet audio ...

  11. SBS's cycling coverage gets a 'thumbs up' from me. Ring the other
    networks & mention cycling (outside of the Olympics) & see the responce.

    Either me or my VCR will be up to catch all the action as it's
    telecasted (Why aren't I part of the ratings sample group??).

    --

  12. Marx SS said:

    Either me or my VCR will be up to catch all the action as it's
    telecasted (Why aren't I part of the ratings sample group??).

    I have often wondered whether such a group is just an urban myth. Has
    anyone actually done this ratings-hoo-har?

    --

  13. Marx SS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    SBS's cycling coverage gets a 'thumbs up' from me. Ring the other
    networks & mention cycling (outside of the Olympics) & see the responce.

    Yes, thumbs up _that_ they do it... as for _how_ they do it, if we
    could get the guys to kick a soccer ball along the way we'd get live
    coverge of all of the grand tours and spring classics, and hosts that
    actually knew stuff about the riders. (yeah yeah, be thankful they
    cover it at all, yeah yeah - don't worry, I'll be up with the rest of
    you, glued to the telly for every second of coverage)

  14. Chickasmith said:

    SBS have just published their press release regarding the Tour with 4
    stages live including the individual time trial up L'Alpe D'Huez ...
    fantastic!!! I am looking forward to this one ...
    Their website www.sbs.com.au/tdf will also be updated from Friday
    July 2 ...
    I'm excited!

    You're excited! I just wet my pants!😄

    --

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    flyingdutch said:
    Marx SS said:

    ... (Why aren't I part of the ratings sample group??).

    I have often wondered whether such a group is just an urban myth. Has
    anyone actually done this ratings-hoo-har?

    Yes, twice in my lifetime.
    Once for TV & once for radio.
    I guess I've had my full share of surveys.

    --
    K.A. Moylan
    Canberra, Australia
    Ski Club: http://www.cccsc.asn.au
    kamoylan at ozemail dot com dot au

  16. I must admit i am just happy that they cover some of the race.
    Considering how little we normally see.

    Dont forget that there are also the highligts from the classique Des
    Alpes at 1130 on the sunday the 11 july as well

    --

  17. chickasmith said:

    Only ten days to go ... at least there is the internet and there will be
    'live' internet audio ...

    10 days?!

    [censored]!

    I better get that TV ariel (sp?) fixed

  18. Glen F said:

    Didn't someone here a while back say you can get the thing live on (free)
    New Caledonian satellite (in French of course)? Why can't SBS just
    re-broadcast that? Cost I guess...

    I've got a dish and receiver card left over from an old
    sattelite-internet install. Supposedly these things can
    be pointed at Free To Air satellites and suck down an MPEG
    stream. There's a couple of Linux HOWTOs on it.

    Ah if I only had the time...

    Do you know the proper name of the satellite in question ?
    Guess I should google for it.

    -kt

  19. [QUOTE/] [B/]Either me or my VCR will be up to catch all the action as
    it's telecasted (Why aren't I part of the ratings sample group??).

    I was a couple of years ago, when they still had the little beige set-
    top boxes you had to push buttons on. I religiously watched all the 6pm
    wrap-ups, but they didn't have the live stages then.

    I think I remember that SBS increased its ratings by about 1.5% or so
    for that 1/2 hr. I suppose that this will probably grow, as the coverage
    gets better, and as there are more (wannabe) roadies out there.

    Now if we can just get the local bike clubs to capitalise on the
    publicity. Most of them have difficulty organising a sausage sizzle at
    the end of the weekly club race. Kudos to those who do, tho'.

    😄

    --

  20. flyingdutch said:
    Marx SS said:

    Either me or my VCR will be up to catch all the action as it's
    telecasted (Why aren't I part of the ratings sample group??).

    Quoted message said:


    I have often wondered whether such a group is just an urban myth. Has
    anyone actually done this ratings-hoo-har?

    About 15 years ago a woman from one of thje ratings agency called
    round and asked me to keep a radio diary. They collected it and that
    was the first and only time it has happened to me.

    Regards
    Bruce

    http://www.bcl.id.au

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