Spot flash site - most annoying ever!

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the headtubes? All
major companies do.

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Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the headtubes? All
major companies do.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training

What about this?

http://www.spotbikes.com/dirtjump.html

James Calivar said:

It speaks for itself.

http://www.spotbikes.com/spothome.html

Ugh.

Any webmaster that puts music on their home page should be shot.

Greg

James Calivar said:

It speaks for itself.

http://www.spotbikes.com/spothome.html

Ugh.

Yep. Annoying and difficult to read alright.
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Westie
(Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a sign of the
quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a gusset in is the cheap way
of adding strength to the area.

James Calivar said:

It speaks for itself.

http://www.spotbikes.com/spothome.html

Ugh.

Agreed. I've tried to avoid it over the last six months. Pity, because
their frames are really nice.

bomba said:

ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a sign of the
quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a gusset in is the cheap way
of adding strength to the area.

Keith Bontrager will disagree with you there.

Greg

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It speaks for itself.

http://www.spotbikes.com/spothome.html

Ugh.

Check it out - a reply after I emailed them:

Hey,

Thanks for the e-mail. We are actually doing a complete rebuild of the site
right now and it will not be a flash site anymore.
We have been recieving alot of e-mail from people about the site - some love
it/some hate it. We appreciate all of the feedback from everybody.

Check back in a couple of weeks to enjoy the new site.

Thank you,

Michael Golinski
Director
Spot Brand Components Inc

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ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a sign of the
quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a gusset in is the cheap way
of adding strength to the area.

Fashion?

Andy Chequer

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ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a sign of the
quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a gusset in is the cheap way
of adding strength to the area.

how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Steve.

spademan o---) * said:

Quoted message said:

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a sign of the
quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a gusset in is the cheap way
of adding strength to the area.

how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

I should have qualified my statement. I was referring to mountain bikes,
as in the ones that are designed for riding XC. Gussets around the
headtube do add extra strength to the area, however, my point was that
it is possible to build an mtb frame that is sufficiently strong in the
headtube / downtube interface such that a gusset is not required.

You'll find a lot of higher-end HT frames (tinbred, Soul, Spot, de Kerf,
Seven, Sycip, Pastey, Ferrous, etc) don't have a gusset.

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spademan o---) * said:

Quoted message said:

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a sign of the
quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a gusset in is the cheap

way

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of adding strength to the area.

how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

How the hull did you manage that? Repairable?

Steve.

spademan o---) * said:

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how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

How the hull did you manage that?

Fat [censored] with a knack of trashing stuff(?) I'm not exactly sure how I
did it to be honest. One day I noticed the headset was loose, and then
realised it wasn't the headset...

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Repairable?

Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a new one. It's
shimmed at the moment and that seems to be holding pretty well. Next frame
will be T45 with reinforcing rings round the headtube.

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spademan o---) * said:

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> how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

How the hull did you manage that?

Fat [censored] with a knack of trashing stuff(?) I'm not exactly sure how I
did it to be honest. One day I noticed the headset was loose, and then
realised it wasn't the headset...

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Repairable?

Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a new one. It's
shimmed at the moment and that seems to be holding pretty well.

Saw a bit off the bottom of the HT?

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Next frame
will be T45 with reinforcing rings round the headtube.

Nice. I've been looking at the lighter trails/race version of the Curtis...
Just window shopping though.

Steve.

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How the hull

Heheheheheh!

<wink>

',;~}~

Shaun aRe - Well, I guess Yorkshire was just asking for it...

spademan o---) * said:

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Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a new one. It's
shimmed at the moment and that seems to be holding pretty well.

Saw a bit off the bottom of the HT?

Hadn't considered that. I suppose if I just took off a couple of mm then
it shouldn't make to much difference to the angles. Just worried that it
might affect the strength if it's butted, and my DIY skills are
notoriously poor.

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Next frame
will be T45 with reinforcing rings round the headtube.

Nice. I've been looking at the lighter trails/race version of the
Curtis... Just window shopping though.

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or possibly getting
one custom-made through George:
http://www.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/friends_bikes/Bens%20bike/bens_home.html

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Quoted message said:

spademan o---) * said:

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Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a new one. It's
shimmed at the moment and that seems to be holding pretty well.

Saw a bit off the bottom of the HT?

Hadn't considered that. I suppose if I just took off a couple of mm then
it shouldn't make to much difference to the angles. Just worried that it
might affect the strength if it's butted, and my DIY skills are
notoriously poor.

I'm sure I've seen that bodge/remedy in an article by George F in Ride (UK),
you need a steady hand though. Definitely worth trying if the alternative is
to scrap the frame.

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Quoted message said:

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Next frame
will be T45 with reinforcing rings round the headtube.

Nice. I've been looking at the lighter trails/race version of the
Curtis... Just window shopping though.

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or possibly getting
one custom-made through George:
http://www.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/friends_bikes/Bens%20bike/bens_home.html

hmm, designing your own BMX frame - that could be a lot of fun...

No plans to change my frame atm, but the Motocross and the RL seems to have
everything in the right place, nice clean double-diamond frames.

Steve.
p.s. 'Dialled bikes' Mike has been talking about putting together a BMX
frame in Titanium...

spademan o---) * said:

I'm sure I've seen that bodge/remedy in an article by George F in Ride (UK),
you need a steady hand though. Definitely worth trying if the alternative is
to scrap the frame.

It's not quite that bad yet, and I do have a certain aversion to taking a
hacksaw to 500 quid frame.

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Quoted message said:

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or possibly getting
one custom-made through George:
http://www.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/friends_bikes/Bens%20bike/bens_home.html

hmm, designing your own BMX frame - that could be a lot of fun...

Indeedy.

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No plans to change my frame atm, but the Motocross and the RL seems to have
everything in the right place, nice clean double-diamond frames.

I'm not planning on changing mine for a while either. See how things go
though.

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Steve.
p.s. 'Dialled bikes' Mike has been talking about putting together a BMX
frame in Titanium...

Hmm, not a bad idea. Let's hope it's better than previous mtb efforts...

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spademan o---) * said:

I'm sure I've seen that bodge/remedy in an article by George F in Ride

(UK),

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you need a steady hand though. Definitely worth trying if the

alternative is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to scrap the frame.

It's not quite that bad yet, and I do have a certain aversion to taking a
hacksaw to 500 quid frame.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or possibly getting
one custom-made through George:

http://www.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/friends_bikes/Bens%20bike/bens_home.html

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hmm, designing your own BMX frame - that could be a lot of fun...

Indeedy.

Quoted message said:

No plans to change my frame atm, but the Motocross and the RL seems to

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

everything in the right place, nice clean double-diamond frames.

I'm not planning on changing mine for a while either. See how things go
though.

Quoted message said:

Steve.
p.s. 'Dialled bikes' Mike has been talking about putting together a BMX
frame in Titanium...

Hmm, not a bad idea. Let's hope it's better than previous mtb efforts...

I was asking him about it, it sounds interesting but maybe a bit too race
oriented. Shame, I reckon if he would do a really durable park/trails frame
that would be great.

Steve.