CarbonLORD Carbon Fiber Cranks / LIFETIME WARRANTY

"Jay Hill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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CarbonLORD wrote:

Threatened to kill anybody lately?

You could see this coming from a mile away...

CarbonLORD wrote:

Threatened to kill anybody lately?

I think a better question is:

Who decides what is "warranty" and what isn't.

I've heard that you've got a better chance of having a quiet coffee in
Baghdad than you do getting warranty from him.

"Jay Hill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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CarbonLORD wrote:

Threatened to kill anybody lately?

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Dont start again guys. If you are not interested, simply pass.

Until you have done business with me, you are not qualified to make
ASSumptions.

5 years ago, you said I would not last, still here, with an entire new
product line up even.

5 years ago, you referenced my eBay ID claiming it would not last,
still at %100 positive feedback and climbing.

Some have used the Warranty program I offer (or again, I can offer NO
warranty if you preffer, be thankfull I offer any warranty, not
disruptive)

Still the same bandwagon of commentators who have never done business
with me.

If your up for the challenge, I'm still game, as always.

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (CarbonLORD) writes:
|> Dont start again guys. If you are not interested, simply pass.
|>
|> etc., etc.
|>
|> 5 years ago, you referenced my eBay ID claiming it would not last,
|> still at %100 positive feedback and climbing.
|>

Now that would be impressive, a feedback rating grater than 100%! :-)

Note the smiley. I have no comment on the merchandise or warranty,
I just couldn't resist this one.

Gareth

Now that would be impressive, a feedback rating grater
than 100%! :-)

Note the smiley. I have no comment on the merchandise or warranty, I
just couldn't resist this one.

Gareth

Ha ha! Funny guy 😉

But you already know it is my feedback I was referring to and not the
percentage number.

I just don't understand these guys.

I mean are these guys really so bored they have nothing better to do
then bicker and rant about a product they have no experience with?

Or was it meerley an attempt at sarcasm on the internet?

Regardless, I have always said there is a place for everything. This is
a marketplace and not a discussion forum, (I thought?). After all it is
rec.MARKETPLACE and not rec.DISCUSSIONS correct?

I'd feel more incline to go into detail if either of the posters were a
customer with a problem, but that is not the case.

Rather then rely on rumor and hear say, like I have always said, you two
jokers go and find me some hard evidence of a person who was denied
warranty before you make such comments.

If you can not at least back your word, rest assure, I will back mine.

The reality is, if I had no intentions on providing a product or
warranty, I would not have a web site for the last 5 years
dedicated to such.

The flip side of the coin is, I can cease to offer any warranty, the
product is good enough that it will sell itself but the simple fact is,
I offer a significant warranty for piece of mind and to show, like I
said 5 years ago, I'm not going anywhere so in another 5-10-15+ years,
I'll still be doing this, and whatever other markets come my way.

I hope you can appreciate my time and efforts in explaining to what I
feel are two people not worthy of any explanation and yes, I have told a
few people here that they should watch themselves and probably not cross
paths (in so many words) but they were just like these two, not
customers of mine, without any hard evidence spouting off at the
keyboard without anything (no product and no proof of their so called
"hear say", claims, watever).

If it were your products and your business on the line, what would you
do? Ignore them? Perhaps if they were in the least correct one one
angle, but they are not. I choose to explain, and if they decide they
want to argue about it further, I make the choice which is simple, make
friends or make yoru enemy's.

Why one would want to knowingly make an enemy is beyond me but I'm not
the one instigating these ordeals, I simply respond with you can race me
and my product or if you want to be a tough guy about it, know that I am
not some scared little self righteous kid hiding behind a computer
screen and expect confrontation if we ever do cross paths.

Thankfully it has never come to that but believe me, like I said before,
I'm game if you want to play the game.

In the meantime, I will continue to do what has served me well and
represent thiese products and the warranty and web site I personally
havve created to better serve my customers.

If you don't agree with that, come correct with some factuall
information and allow me my opportunity to respond.

Regardless, this "Marketplace" is not the appropriate place to do that.

If you can't at least respect that, how the hell am I supposed to
respect you?

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Perhaps there is a history here that I am not aware of. I will accept
that it is just that history. I have no dealings with Carbon Lord but he
has as much right to post a listing as any one else without petty
comment. Those who have taken it upon themselves to attack his character
as well as his product have proven their point. That they lack any
character or integrity themselves. I am sure this was not their
intention yet it is what they have clearly done. It is as if they were
in a super market ranting at the bread baker. Who appears crazy the
baker or the ranter. I would encourage them to examine there own faults
before pointing the finger at someone else.

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Quoted message said:

Now that would be impressive, a feedback rating grater
than 100%! :-)
Note the smiley. I have no comment on the merchandise or warranty, I
just couldn't resist this one.
Gareth
Ha ha! Funny guy 😉
But you already know it is my feedback I was referring to and not the
percentage number.
I just don't understand these guys.
I mean are these guys really so bored they have nothing better to do
then bicker and rant about a product they have no experience with?
Or was it meerley an attempt at sarcasm on the internet?

Re-read their comment. They ain't knocking your product.

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Regardless, I have always said there is a place for everything. This is
a marketplace and not a discussion forum, (I thought?). After all it is
rec.MARKETPLACE and not rec.DISCUSSIONS correct?

Discussions about the market are appropriate.

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I'd feel more incline to go into detail if either of the posters were a
customer with a problem, but that is not the case.

It isn't, so no details are necessary.

<snip> long warranty rant omitted

Why so defensive when the follow up did not say anything bad or good
about your product?

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Regardless, this "Marketplace" is not the appropriate place to do that.

Actually there are times when it is appropriate.
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Alex

Actually there are times when it is appropriate.
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Alex

....and asking if I have threatened to kill anyone lately is
appropriate?

c'mon now Alex, I think that knocks both me and the product. How would
you respond?

There was no Warranty rant, that was the benifit of an explanation which
I took the time and liberty of explaining to you. Again, were you in my
position, how would you respond?

I'm a firm believer that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and a
strong believer in freedom of speech, but I also believe that people
should be allowed to respond, to any comment.

I certainly wouldnt view these comments as friendly or worth while in a
marketplace which is designated for the sale of merchandise and when
someone acts in an unreasonable manner, they should expect a response,
and provide reasoning.

Making comments like "I've heard that you've got a better chance of
having a quiet coffee in Baghdad than you do getting warranty from him."

Did you expect I would sit idol and not ask for some shread of proof
toward sthat statement, and how do you figure that is not a direct slam
against my products?

I think you need to re-read the comments posted and put yourself
in my shoes.

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