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  1. "Craig Wilkes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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    It's definitely Germany. The umlaut on the A in the car ad proves that.


    Also

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    the "Der [Neue] Lexus" below it. The Dutch use either "De" or "Het".


    Close but no cigar. It's Vienna. The building is the Staatsoper (Opera
    House). If you look closely, the buses have Vienna sightseeing on them,
    with a silhouette of the Prater ferris wheel.

    They must be renovating the Opera House, judging by the scaffolding and
    advertising hoardings that weren't there when I visited in 2000.

    Appropriate the photo is in a German speaking country, as it's


    schadenfreude

    Quoted message said:

    in action.


    Ahh good one. I know the difference between the Netherlands and Germany, and
    even the Netherlands and Belgium, but I'm a bit flaky on the German /
    Austrian differences. I've got to work on my schadenfreude appreciation too.

    cheers,
    Jeff

  2. Fred Nieman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Deep Freud Moors said:


    Craig Wilkes <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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    >


    ...

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    Aaah, Vienna, huh? I thought it looked a bit too hilly to be in


    Holland...

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    ---
    DFM

    Is that "Aaah, Vienna" as in "it means nothing to me"?

    That's where the gondolas hang out, isn't it?
    ---
    DFM

  3. I received the photo via email and posted it on a freinds web page in
    the Netherlands.
    Hope this clears up the confusion.

    On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 04:19:58 +1100, "Jeff Jones"

    jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com said:


    "Craig Wilkes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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    It's definitely Germany. The umlaut on the A in the car ad proves that.


    Also

    Quoted message said:

    the "Der [Neue] Lexus" below it. The Dutch use either "De" or "Het".


    Close but no cigar. It's Vienna. The building is the Staatsoper (Opera
    House). If you look closely, the buses have Vienna sightseeing on them,
    with a silhouette of the Prater ferris wheel.

    They must be renovating the Opera House, judging by the scaffolding and
    advertising hoardings that weren't there when I visited in 2000.

    Appropriate the photo is in a German speaking country, as it's


    schadenfreude

    Quoted message said:

    in action.


    Ahh good one. I know the difference between the Netherlands and Germany, and
    even the Netherlands and Belgium, but I'm a bit flaky on the German /
    Austrian differences. I've got to work on my schadenfreude appreciation too.

    cheers,
    Jeff

  4. "cfsmtb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Oh gawd:eek: Just managed to get the link to work. Oh the injustice,
    lets just pray he didn't have bar extensions either....

    If he did have a bar extension, that was the last one! ;-)

    --
    Alan Erskine
    alanterskine(at)hotmail.com

    Due to Optusnet's failure to deal with
    the current virus SPAM attack, respond
    to alanterskine(at)hotmail.com

  5. Deep Freud Moors said:


    Craig Wilkes <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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    ....

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    Aaah, Vienna, huh? I thought it looked a bit too hilly to be in Holland...
    ---
    DFM

    Is that "Aaah, Vienna" as in "it means nothing to me"?

    [censored]
    p

    ps: "Aah, aah, we fade to grey; and I ran, I ran so far away; I'm lost
    and I'm found, and I'm hungry like the wolf; heaven, must be there; city
    on a rainy day down by the harbour, this is not the way that I remember
    it here..." Ten points for the name of the song, ten points for the name
    of the group, fifteen points if you can name the album the song was
    from, and twenty-five bonus points if you can remember seeing them on
    "Countdown"...

  6. Vienna...is that the opera house where W A Mozart hang out?

    --
    Nil illigitimus carborundum

    Nil illigitimus carborundum

    "I loved the feeling of riding downhill-
    admiring the scenery then running
    over it at high speed"

    life ain't much but there's nothing else to do

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  7. ps: "Aah, aah, we fade to grey; and I ran, I ran so far away; I'm lost
    and I'm found, and I'm hungry like the wolf; heaven, must be there;
    city on a rainy day down by the harbour, this is not the way that I
    remember it here..." Ten points for the name of the song, ten points
    for the name of the group, fifteen points if you can name the album
    the song was from, and twenty-five bonus points if you can remember
    seeing them on "Countdown"...

    Hey ho lets go....

    1. Visage, Fade to Gray (1981)
    2. I Ran, Flock of Seagulls (1982)
    3. Hungry Like The Wolf, Duran Duran (1982)
    4. Heaven, Eurogliders (1982-3?)
    5. Great Southern Land, Icehouse (1982)

    6. Vid Clip on Countdown, much posing from Steve Strange & Co, plus a
    shop dummy wearing much makeup,
    7. Vid Clip on Countdown, young tryhard English boys & girls running
    around in big baggy slacks, birdsnest hairdo's, remember much orange
    and sheets of plastic in the background for some reason. A wind
    machine was in there too.
    8. Too many to mention, poncy English New Romantics (or alternatively
    read "Lombards"😉 make classy "we're on holiday" video clips in Sri
    Lanka with hot looking chicks, DD made many personal appearances on
    Countdown when in the country,
    9. Vid Clip on Countdown, cinematic big budget affair shot in either a
    big studio or on a farm, Grace Knight singing her little heart out.
    Appeared live on the show too.
    10. Vid Clip on Countdown, Iva looking all surly and wearing big
    pants, trying not to stumble off a quarry cliff somewhere in
    Kur-ing-gai Chase.

    Ok, there were no sightings of bikes in any of these videos, but do I
    win a slab of Mountain Goat ? cheers 😄 😄 :p

    PS, this is all from memory and I didn't use Google once, I'm just
    reallyreally old)

    --
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  8. Albums,
    1. Visage, 2. Flock of Seagulls, 3. Rio, 4. Possibly self titled, 5.
    Primitive Man.

    Reckon that poor cyclists must have recovered by now, and you thought
    watching Lance almost losing his remaining knacker in the TdF made you
    winch. I'm 50/50 on whether the photo was real or staged.

    --
    life ain't much but there's nothing else to do

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  9. "Deep Freud Moors" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaVALIDiREALLY!l.nu> wrote in
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    Fred Nieman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Deep Freud Moors said:

    <...>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Aaah, Vienna, huh? I thought it looked a bit too hilly to be in


    Holland...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ---
    DFM

    Is that "Aaah, Vienna" as in "it means nothing to me"?

    That's where the gondolas hang out, isn't it?

    No, don't be stupid, that's Florence!

    ;-)

    Tim

  10. "Fred Nieman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Man without pigs said:


    Photo of bike mishap - a Kodak moment.
    home.tiscali.nl/~scholtr

    Forgot to mention: what is this Ouch! face-plant person doing riding a
    full-suspension bike around city, anyway?

    It looks like a hardtail with mudguards to me...

    Tim

  11. cfsmtb said:


    ps: "Aah, aah, we fade to grey; and I ran, I ran so far away; I'm lost
    and I'm found, and I'm hungry like the wolf; heaven, must be there;
    city on a rainy day down by the harbour, this is not the way that I
    remember it here..." Ten points for the name of the song, ten points
    for the name of the group, fifteen points if you can name the album
    the song was from, and twenty-five bonus points if you can remember
    seeing them on "Countdown"...

    Hey ho lets go....

    cfsmtb (also) said:


    Albums,
    1. Visage, 2. Flock of Seagulls, 3. Rio, 4. Possibly self titled, 5.
    Primitive Man.

    Quoted message said:
    For a possible 60 x 5 = 300 pints said:

    1. Visage, Fade to Gray (1981)
    6. Vid Clip on Countdown, much posing from Steve Strange & Co, plus a
    shop dummy wearing much makeup,


    * 10 points from the German (cf: Spandau Ballet) Judge for the song, 10
    points from the Belgian Judge (who would have scored you a zero if you'd
    mentioned "Ça Plane por Moi" by Plastique Bertand [which is, of course,
    the quintessential 80s song because it was from 1979] for the band, 15
    incidental points because the album was self-titled, but minus 5 because
    the self-titled album was actually a "Greatest Hits" from 1983, 25 for
    seeing it on Countdown, but minus 10 for not mentioning that Steve
    Strange was in the video for last cool David Bowie single, "Ashes to
    Ashes" ('... we get things done, you'd better not mess with...[you know
    who])
    - for a total of 45/60, cumulative 45

    Quoted message said:

    2. I Ran, Flock of Seagulls (1982)
    2. Flock of Seagulls,
    7. Vid Clip on Countdown, young tryhard English boys & girls running
    around in big baggy slacks, birdsnest hairdo's, remember much orange
    and sheets of plastic in the background for some reason. A wind
    machine was in there too.


    * 10 points for the song, 10 points for the band, 15 points for the
    album, 25 points for seeing it on Countdown, but minus 10 for not
    mentioning that Samuel L Jackson (as Jules Winnfield) calls one of the
    guys they shoot in Pulp Fiction act 1, sc i, the name of the band, even
    tho it was in 1994, and the 80s were still The Decade That Dares Not
    Breathe Its Name even tho The Face in Feb 1993 or near enough wrote "an
    80s revival - remember you read it here first". And while I think of
    it, minus 5 simply because of all those nasty plastic pop covers of 80s
    songs they're doing now.
    - for a total of 45/60, cumulative 90

    Quoted message said:

    3. Hungry Like The Wolf, Duran Duran (1982)
    8. Too many to mention, poncy English New Romantics (or alternatively
    read "Lombards"😉 make classy "we're on holiday" video clips in Sri
    Lanka with hot looking chicks, DD made many personal appearances on
    Countdown when in the country,


    * 10 points for the song, 10 points for the band, 15 bonus points
    because (a) DD rooool! and (b) I've regressed back to the hair-cut, 15
    points for the album, 25 points for seeing it on Countdown, 20 bonus
    points for mentioning Sri Lanka, but minus 10 for mentioning Sri Lanka
    without mentioning Phillip K [censored], who lived there because... well,
    umm...
    - for a total of 85/60, cumulative 175

    Quoted message said:

    4. Heaven, Eurogliders (1982-3?)
    9. Vid Clip on Countdown, cinematic big budget affair shot in either a
    big studio or on a farm, Grace Knight singing her little heart out.
    Appeared live on the show too.


    * 10 points for the song, 10 points for the band, 15 points for the
    album, 25 points for seeing it on Countdown, 10 bonus points because
    Molly Meldrum got such a hard time when they filmed that Channel 9
    thing, but minus 10 because I (totally unrelatedly) can't find the
    lyrics to "Benchtop" anywhere on the internet, but 5 more bonus points
    for mentioning Grace Knight.
    - for a total of 65/60, cumulative 240

    Quoted message said:

    5. Great Southern Land, Icehouse (1982)
    10. Vid Clip on Countdown, Iva looking all surly and wearing big
    pants, trying not to stumble off a quarry cliff somewhere in
    Kur-ing-gai Chase.


    * 10 points for the song, 10 points for the band, 15 points for the
    album, 25 points for seeing it on Countdown, but minus 10 for not
    mentioning how the picture on the back of the "Flowers/Icehouse" album
    had a packet of St Moritz Menthol 20s which meant I immediately decided
    to start smoking 'em, and minus 10 for not mentioning that Iva played
    oboe in some ABC youth Symphony Orchestra, but 15 bonus points for
    mentioning Big Pants, The Cyclist's Thighs Friend, and 15 bonus points
    for mentioning Kur-ing-gai Chase, somewhere outside of Sydney that I've
    actually lived near, but minus 10 points for not mentioning that the
    video for "Lets Dance" by David Bowie [supra] was shot near the Three
    Sisters out of Katoomba, somewhere outside of Sydney that I've actually
    lived near, so... (umm, that's 240 plus (10+10+15+25 = 60) minus
    (10+15) plus, umm...

    300/300 !!!

    Quoted message said:


    Ok, there were no sightings of bikes in any of these videos, but do I
    win a slab of Mountain Goat ? cheers 😄 😄 :p

    (Umm. I don't understand this bit. But I think I should pretend to.)
    Mountain Goat! Why, of course!

    Quoted message said:


    PS, this is all from memory and I didn't use Google once, I'm just
    reallyreally old)

    And yeah, I just researched up on that stuff, umm, to impress you. I'm
    actually <coughs and splutters, grasps walking frame> an 18/m...
    </coughs, splutters, grasps>

    Quoted message said:

    Reckon that poor cyclists must have recovered by now, and you thought
    watching Lance almost losing his remaining knacker in the TdF made you
    winch. I'm 50/50 on whether the photo was real or staged.

    Well, my score so far is, testicles 2, Tour de France wins 0. So....
    I'm up there with Phil Anderson. Except he won more stages that me (ie:
    0)
    Or something.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    life ain't much but there's nothing else to do


    Music these days... It's not like the 80s... I liked Kylie's early
    stuff, when she <coughs, splutters, grasps redux> was less commercial
    and more edgy...

  12. "Fred Nieman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Music these days... It's not like the 80s... I liked Kylie's early
    stuff, when she <coughs, splutters, grasps redux> was less commercial
    and more edgy...

    Early stuff... more edgy??

    e.g. "Doooo the locomotion with meeee!"

    ;-)

    hippy
    Kylie's good value.. but I'm not talking about her music...

  13. Fred Nieman said:

    ... (umm, that's 240 plus (10+10+15+25 = 60) minus (10+15) plus, umm...
    300/300 !!!
    Music these days... It's not like the 80s... I liked Kylie's early
    stuff, when she <coughs, splutters, grasps redux> was less commercial
    and more edgy...

    Crikey, your emails are tangent city. don't know where to start.
    Mountain Goat is a locally brewed beer in Melbourne. yummy. And
    everyone's gone all misty eyed of late, due to the screening of ABC's
    "Love Is In Air". BTW, Iva also wrote a song with one of the guys in
    Yellow Magic Orchestra. 18 more sleeps 'til Killing Joke play live in
    Melbourne. ahhhhh, eighties.....:p

    --
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  14. hippy said:


    "Fred Nieman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Music these days... It's not like the 80s... I liked Kylie's early
    stuff, when she <coughs, splutters, grasps redux> was less commercial
    and more edgy...

    Early stuff... more edgy??

    e.g. "Doooo the locomotion with meeee!"

    Can't you see the obvious influences of (pre-John Cale leaving) Velvet
    Underground, Detroit stuff like MC5, and even the New York Dolls, plus
    really out-there European stuff like Can and Focus in her first
    post-Neighbours/post-modern opuses (opii?), which demonstrate such a
    clear continuity from Joy Division, 70s Siouxsie and the nascent
    underground dub/rap/sound-system stuff?

    Quoted message said:


    ;-)

    hippy
    Kylie's good value.. but I'm not talking about her music...

    I know one day she's going to want to give up the international celeb
    scene, come home, and settle down with me...
    And *that's* why I'm stalking her...

    p

    (yes, ok, this is a joke post, joke post, j o k e p o s t!)

  15. hippy said:


    "Fred Nieman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Music these days... It's not like the 80s... I liked Kylie's early
    stuff, when she <coughs, splutters, grasps redux> was less commercial
    and more edgy...

    Early stuff... more edgy??

    e.g. "Doooo the locomotion with meeee!"

    ;-)

    hippy
    Kylie's good value.. but I'm not talking about her music...

    Of course. Y'see, "The Locomotion" was all about cycling: how petite
    but perfectly formed legs (like Kylie's, and sprinters) tend to have a
    natural cadence of about 90 - 100 rpm...

  16. "Fred Nieman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    e.g. "Doooo the locomotion with meeee!"

    Can't you see the obvious influences of (pre-John Cale leaving) Velvet
    Underground, Detroit stuff like MC5, and even the New York Dolls, plus
    really out-there European stuff like Can and Focus in her first
    post-Neighbours/post-modern opuses (opii?), which demonstrate such a
    clear continuity from Joy Division, 70s Siouxsie and the nascent
    underground dub/rap/sound-system stuff?

    Oh god.. what has this become?!?!

    Quoted message said:

    I know one day she's going to want to give up the international celeb
    scene, come home, and settle down with me...
    And *that's* why I'm stalking her...

    Oh, that was you! :-P

    Quoted message said:

    (yes, ok, this is a joke post, joke post, j o k e p o s t!)

    ....and a damn good one too!
    Here's the "LOL" I owe you for the 'stalking' line above. :-D :-D

    hippy
    Bike Thing: What should I do with my ancient, failing, 27",
    Apollo "chippie" bike?

  17. hippy said:


    "Fred Nieman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    e.g. "Doooo the locomotion with meeee!"

    Can't you see the obvious influences of (pre-John Cale leaving) Velvet


    <lots of silly stuff>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    underground dub/rap/sound-system stuff?

    Oh god.. what has this become?!?!

    Weil Man Hippy, radge, aw ya neid tae dae.. sorry, I''l try to switch
    out of Irvine Welsh mode...

    Well, Hippy, mate, the only solution is to send control headers for:
    - aus.bicycle.kylie_minogue.fan.fan.fan
    - aus.bicycle.kylie_minogue.cadence.legs.petite_but_perfectly_formed
    - aus.bicycle.80s.tragics.blame_chris_and_ftsmb

    Aym sure ye ken hoo tae dae... umm, sorry, let's start again. I'm sure
    you know how to do it...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I know one day she's going to want to give up the international celeb
    scene, come home, and settle down with me...
    And *that's* why I'm stalking her...

    Oh, that was you! :-P

    It wah nae niver me, tha [censored], ah wus oot reedin mah bicycle, doon the
    bike-paths, like? (oops, sorry, I Britney Spears'd it again)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (yes, ok, this is a joke post, joke post, j o k e p o s t!)

    ...and a damn good one too!
    Here's the "LOL" I owe you for the 'stalking' line above. :-D :-D

    I'm pretty sure I'll need to bank your owingness for my future
    stupidity...

    So lets start off now:
    Campag Ergo shifters roolz! Shimano STi Suxxx!

    [censored]

    p

    Quoted message said:


    hippy
    Bike Thing: What should I do with my ancient, failing, 27",
    Apollo "chippie" bike?

    ps:
    Is that "chippie"/"chipie" as in:
    (a) slang for carpenters; or,
    (b) a sometime fashionable brand of English shoes/clothes; or,
    (c) English slang for a sex-worker
    ?

  18. "Fred Nieman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Well, Hippy, mate, the only solution is to send control headers for:
    - aus.bicycle.kylie_minogue.fan.fan.fan
    - aus.bicycle.kylie_minogue.cadence.legs.petite_but_perfectly_formed
    - aus.bicycle.80s.tragics.blame_chris_and_ftsmb

    hehe.. but too [censored] to think of anything funny in reply - sorry!

    Quoted message said:

    I'm pretty sure I'll need to bank your owingness for my future
    stupidity...

    So lets start off now:
    Campag Ergo shifters roolz! Shimano STi Suxxx!

    OOH! Hey that remimds me.. I rode my mates Campag setup for the
    first time and I have to say.. shimano rules!
    Sheesh! How hard is it to reach those dam,n campag levers?!?!
    I DO like the continuous trim that Campag has on the front derrailer.
    I only rode his bike for 10min so I have a far from reasonable
    comparison.. but as far as first impressions go - Shi(t)mano wins...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bike Thing: What should I do with my ancient, failing, 27",
    Apollo "chippie" bike?

    ps:
    Is that "chippie"/"chipie" as in:
    (a) slang for carpenters; or,
    (b) a sometime fashionable brand of English shoes/clothes; or,
    (c) English slang for a sex-worker

    Well, I actually call it my "shop" bike, i.e. the one that I take
    down the shops and don't lock up or anything because it is
    far to invaluable for such things... Someone I know called it
    a "chippie" bike because it is what you use to get your
    fish and chips! :-)

    hippy

  19. cfsmtb said:


    Fred Nieman said:

    ... (umm, that's 240 plus (10+10+15+25 = 60) minus (10+15) plus, umm...
    300/300 !!!
    Music these days... It's not like the 80s... I liked Kylie's early
    stuff, when she <coughs, splutters, grasps redux> was less commercial
    and more edgy...

    Crikey, your emails are tangent city.

    Is that a brand of beer or an English Soccer Club? ("Gae, ye Tangent
    City bois.. an aym drinkin Tangent City broon, an aw, coas they're
    playin th night - City! City! City!"😉 </Irvine Welsh>

    Quoted message said:

    don't know where to start.

    Umm. (And that's definite.)

    Quoted message said:

    Mountain Goat is a locally brewed beer in Melbourne. yummy.

    Well, I'm sure it is... (must must have got it mixed up with Mountain
    Dew, which I believe is a kind of caffinated Pub Squash for nerds.) Is
    that like Pi55, from the Great Britain, 447 Church Street in Richmond?

    Quoted message said:

    And
    everyone's gone all misty eyed of late, due to the screening of ABC's
    "Love Is In Air".

    Love Is In (ahem) The Air, deent, dent, doint, deent, dent, doint,
    (repeat to fade), you mean?

    (Just to get this back OT, apparently at one stage J P Young rode Gitane
    10-speed...)

    And misty-eyed? Have you read James Freud's book? (He apparently rode a
    Gary Fisher MTB at some stage when he was playing bass on a Kylie tour
    of the US.)

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, Iva also wrote a song with one of the guys in

    Apparently Iva Davies at one stage owned a touring bike from Clarence St
    Cycles in Sydney...

    Quoted message said:

    Yellow

    Apparently Ryuichi Sakamoto commuted daily from his apartment in
    Shinjuku to the recording studio in Roppongi on a single-speed Kuwahara
    26' wheel BMX...

    Quoted message said:

    Magic Orchestra.

    Don't get me started about how everything links back to Brian Eno (who
    apparently rode a Peugeot cyclo-cross bike at one stage)...

    Quoted message said:

    18 more sleeps 'til Killing Joke play live in
    Melbourne. ahhhhh, eighties.....:p

    Seems Jaz used to ride a UK Raleigh with Sturmey-Archer 3-speed
    hub-gears, before he went completely bonkers about (amongst other
    things) numerology...

    See you (completely NOT, unfortunately) at the gig...

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    Yeah, yep. That is, if you don't have to hand in a 4 000 word essay on
    Monday... which explains why. Sort of.

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    p

    ps: "a love like [as might happen with a badly matched saddle, in a
    worst case scenario] blood", etc.

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  20. jeez, fred/pete, any chance you're a fan of Sparks as well? Russell Mael
    apparentely "spins" a lot to exercise. it's too gawddamn scary to ride a
    bike in LA, wethinks. we're a fun bunch of guys & we come from outer
    space. cheers.

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    nick.

    www.nickcoyne.com

    Cape Epic Team Grovel
    www.cape-epic.com

    Grovel: "To work interminably and without apparent progress"

    "When I see an adult on a bicycle, I have hope for the human race." - H G Wells.

    life ain't much but there's nothing else to do

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