What to buy?? $5000 limit

Sorry mate to spend more than your budget , but I got a 2004 Giant TC
Composite 0 for $5600 with full durace 2004 & Mavic Ksyrium SLL

You could go for the 2004 Giant TCR Composite 1 which comes with ultegr
and Mavic Ksyrium - this should be well under 5

or phone around your local giant bike shops and see if you could ge
hold of a 2003 Giant TCR Composite 0 - should get a good deal o
that mode

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"Michael Day" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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OK want carbon. There are quite a few options. Haven't been riding long
enough to know all the ins and outs and would appreciate some help. $5000

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the budget - not even 1 dollar over.

Why the carbon lust? Don't get me wrong, I'd love a
carbon machine, if only to test it out, just curious...

Here's one:
http://www.flyingfurniture.com.au/picture_m5carbon.html

;-)

$5k is a lot to drop if you haven't been riding long.
You didn't actually say, but I assume you mean
road bike and not mtb or something?

Giant, Trek, Cervelo, Fondriest, Colnago, Look,
and many many others all make nice carbon bikes,
Giant and Trek being the most common by far and
easiest to actually buy.

http://www.cbdcycles.com.au/shop/Shop/bikes/Giant2003Road
http://www.fraserscycles.com.au/Road_Bikes_Trek.htm

I think you might need to think about this a little more
and post with more details of what type of riding you
do and more specifics on what you want?

Do you have existing parts that could be used on a
new frame?

hippy

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$5k is a lot to drop if you haven't been riding long.

Relative. His income level might be such that 5k is like our $250. I could
only dream of having the sort of bank balance that would allow me to spend
that sort of money on something I dont yet know much about.

Pete

Michael Day said:

OK want carbon. There are quite a few options. Haven't been riding long
enough to know all the ins and outs and would appreciate some help.
$5000 is the budget - not even 1 dollar over.
thanks in anticipation

G'day

$5k all up, probably doesn't give you too many choices in Carbon. Of
hand, the 'Hyundai' Giant TCR (is it 1?), Ultegra spec?. Probably
Trek, maybe the 5200, again with an Ultegra Spec. RU married to carbon?
With 'only' $5k to spend you are probably better off looking at
different frame & thus have soemthing extra to spend on the 'go faster
components, like wheels & gruppo. You racing it? What level RU at?

cheers

Hitch

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Michael Day said:

OK want carbon. There are quite a few options. Haven't been riding long
enough to know all the ins and outs and would appreciate some help.
$5000 is the budget - not even 1 dollar over.
thanks in anticipation

not sure if they do a full carbon but definetely do a dual Alu/Carbon -
ORBEA. beautiful handpainted frames and VERY price competitive

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$5k all up, probably doesn't give you too many choices in Carbon. Off
hand, the 'Hyundai' Giant TCR (is it 1?), Ultegra spec?. Probably a
Trek, maybe the 5200, again with an Ultegra Spec. RU married to

carbon?.

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With 'only' $5k to spend you are probably better off looking at a
different frame & thus have soemthing extra to spend on the 'go

faster'

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components, like wheels & gruppo. You racing it? What level RU at?,

Yeah, I just had a quick skim around.. there's not much
in the way of 'cheap' carbon bikes out there!
I thought they'd be MUCH cheaper nowadays with the
higher volumes being produced and their popularity (e.g.
Trek and Lance). I'd like to test ride one of the Giants...

hippy
Steel is real, but so is Al and Ti and carbon and Mg
and Scandium and Beryllium and wood and
fibreglass and all combinations of the above... ;-)

Michael Day said:

OK want carbon. There are quite a few options. Haven't been riding long
enough to know all the ins and outs and would appreciate some help.
$5000 is the budget - not even 1 dollar over.
thanks in anticipation

not sure if they do a full carbon but definetely do a dual Alu/Carbon -
ORBEA. beautiful handpainted frames and VERY price competitive (and not
EVERY joe has em!)

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flyingdutch said:

not sure if they do a full carbon but definetely do a dual Alu/Carbon -
ORBEA. beautiful handpainted frames and VERY price competitive (and not
EVERY joe has em!)

They do a full carbon model called the Orca. I prefer the Alu/Carbo
frames. They start with Mitis which is their own inhouse tubing bu
comes with the full warranty that all the others have. Then there'
Mitis with carbon stays. Everything else is Columbus tubing. They'r
very nice frames and have a very sweet ride. Totally comfortable. Th
paint work is fantastic although the 2004 models have reduced the rang
of colours available. You can basically build a bike up with thes
frames for a fraction of what others would cost

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You could just buy a frame and sit on the couch with it and place a fan blowing in your face to imagine how fast you would be going😄 😄 :

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Paul J said:

They do a full carbon model called the Orca. I prefer the Alu/Carbon
frames. They start with Mitis which is their own inhouse tubing but
comes with the full warranty that all the others have. Then there's
Mitis with carbon stays. Everything else is Columbus tubing. They're
very nice frames and have a very sweet ride. Totally comfortable. The
paint work is fantastic although the 2004 models have reduced the range
of colours available. You can basically build a bike up with these
frames for a fraction of what others would cost.

think i saw an 'orca' last night at the kew crits. Is it orange/blue

looked weally nic

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Michael Day said:

OK want carbon. There are quite a few options. Haven't been riding long
enough to know all the ins and outs and would appreciate some help. $5000 is
the budget - not even 1 dollar over.

thanks in anticipation

The Giant TCR1 is awesome value for what you get. Full carbon frame, Ksyrium SSC
SL, FSA Carbon crank, Full Ultegra, Easton oversize bars etc. The latest edition
of Ride had a writeup in the back.

I reckon no other carbon pricepoint can beat it. A Trek 5200 might come close
dollarwise if you can haggle.

davidp.
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David Pascoe, [email hidden], Western Australia

Thanks for all the replies. Ride with a fairly good group at about B-
grade level. Doing about 300km p/week so want something substanciall
better than the anvil I'm lugging around at the moment

Seems that the Giant 04 Composite 1 or 0 at 4k and 5.7K respectivel
might be the best buys around. Looking forward to any furthe
comments though

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I think you will find that the Giant TCR 1 'only' comes with the Mavi
Ksyrium Elite wheel se

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miday said:

Seems that the Giant 04 Composite 1 or 0 at 4k and 5.7K respectively
might be the best buys around. Looking forward to any further
comments though!

Got it

$4899 for Scott CR-1 Pro, Ultegra, Ksyrium Elites, avail 49cm-61cm.
think it looks pretty swee

http://www.freedommachine.com.au/item.asp?Category=159&Start=0&ID=78

hipp

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Actually, just looked up the Kestrel Talon. It is $4185 with Ultegra o
www.bicycleexoticadirect.com.a

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Can you carry over any components from your old bike to keep costs down?
Or do you want a whole new bike? If the latter, you are restricted to
the Giant; I am pretty sure the Trek 5200 is over $5K. If the former,
you could get the Trek 5200, Bianchi XL, Look KG 361 or 461, Kestrel
Talon or others as a frameset and build up from there. the Bianchi has
the advantage (?) of being monocoque.

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hippy said:

Got it!
$4899 for Scott CR-1 Pro, Ultegra, Ksyrium Elites, avail 49cm-61cm. I
think it looks pretty sweet
http://www.freedommachine.com.au/item.asp?Category=159&Start=0&ID=789
hippy

Looks even nicer in real life, one of the guys at Cycle Science Mitcha
has one and it is SWEET. :

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I have just gone through a similar situation to yourself but was looking at
the $4000 - $4500 range for a carbon fibre bike. I only compared the Giant
TCR1 Composite and Trek 5200 (looked at the TCR0 too but more than I wanted
to pay), and chose the TCR1 on price and features, and the write-ups were
good. I am not a racer, just enjoy riding and do alot of it and wanted a
fairly decent bike.

Remember to factor in additional items such as pedals, speedo, bidon cages,
shoes etc to the total price, and also remember, never ever pay retail! You
should be able to purchase the total package for a 10% - 15% discount on
retail by knowing what you want before you enter the shop, haggling, and
being prepared to purchase on the spot if given a deal you are happy with.

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OK want carbon. There are quite a few options. Haven't been riding long
enough to know all the ins and outs and would appreciate some help. $5000

is

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the budget - not even 1 dollar over.

thanks in anticipation