Mrs Average hits back.

Some incompetent driver wibbled:

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Firstly, I hope they don't listen to the car radio or CD player while
driving, indulge in any conversation whatsoever with passengers or have ever
had to listen to a three-year-old child desperately needing the toilet when
stuck in traffic in the middle of town. Get real, for goodness sake!

Secondly, hand on heart, how many people when driving in a 30 or 40 mph zone
have checked the speedo to find that their speed has actually crept up by
three, four or even five miles an hour. If your honest it's happened to all
of us.

Speed cameras are sighted in the best areas to catch the most people. I'm
sorry to say it's not about safety, it's about money.

To all those hollier-than-thou people, check your Bible. I'm sure it says
something about "Let he who has not sinned..." I rest my case.

Translation: "I am sufficiently arrogant to believe that the law does
not apply to me".

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Mark South said:

I have neither bible nor concordance handy, but it's in the OT and it's to

do

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with making a vessel which is round, and exactly one cubit across, and

exactly

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three cubits around the rim.

That is perfectly possible. I really don't see what your problem is, unless
of course you are making assumptions that are not necessarily correct.

My assumption is that Pi > 3. If you want to ride hexagonal bicycle wheels,
don't let me stop you.

On Wed, 19 May 2004 18:00:44 +0100, "Simon Mason"
<[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

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Some people might remember "Mr +Mrs Average" who are more concerned with
sacking people and what to have for tea than trivial things than the speed
limit. I missed it earlier, but today she hits back:

Note to letters editor, "sighted", hollier" and "your honest" seem to have
eluded your otherwise excellent journalistic craftsmanship ;-)

Check my bible? - oops I haven't got one!

BEGINS

With reference to my critics, I feel I must make two points.

Firstly, I hope they don't listen to the car radio or CD player while
driving, indulge in any conversation whatsoever with passengers or have ever
had to listen to a three-year-old child desperately needing the toilet when
stuck in traffic in the middle of town. Get real, for goodness sake!

Secondly, hand on heart, how many people when driving in a 30 or 40 mph zone
have checked the speedo to find that their speed has actually crept up by
three, four or even five miles an hour. If your honest it's happened to all
of us.

Then she should get a car with less sound insulation. Then she'd hear
35mph's perceptibly higher-pitched engine note over 30mph, and she
could tell changes of speed without constantly looking at the speedo.

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Mark South wrote:

Of Pi=3.0 (source: God)

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I have neither bible nor concordance handy, but it's in the OT and
it's to do with making a vessel which is round, and exactly one cubit
across, and exactly three cubits around the rim.

And the definition of a cubit being the distance from the elbow to the tip
of the finger of a man (or were you using Royal Egyptian Cubits, which are
longer by the handspan of the then-ruling pharaoh?), that is perfectly
feasible within the limits of accuracy of the standard in question.

In other words, Pi=3 is correct (as stated); Pi = 3.0 is not (but not
stated). Or is that to Engineerish?

It reminds me of Thompson, Rivara and Thompson: helmets save 88% of
injuries, which turns out to be 88% +12%/-28%; which I would refer to as
"approximately 9/10" to avoid implying a precision which is not supported by
the data. This does, of course, ignore the fact that the data itself is
Complete Bollocks[tm], and is offered only as an illustration of the concept
of meaningless precision.

Guy

Mark South said:

"David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Mark South said:

I have neither bible nor concordance handy, but it's in the OT and it's to

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with making a vessel which is round, and exactly one cubit across, and

exactly

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

three cubits around the rim.

That is perfectly possible. I really don't see what your problem is, unless
of course you are making assumptions that are not necessarily correct.

My assumption is that Pi > 3. If you want to ride hexagonal bicycle wheels,
don't let me stop you.

You are still making assumptions that any examination of old pottery would
show you are unfounded.

The assumption is that the rim is the widest part of the vessel.

I can think of vessels where the rim circumference is less that the diameter
of the vessel. In fact, I was drinking out of one last night.

...d

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Mark South wrote:

Of Pi=3.0 (source: God)

Quoted message said:

I have neither bible nor concordance handy, but it's in the OT and
it's to do with making a vessel which is round, and exactly one cubit
across, and exactly three cubits around the rim.

And the definition of a cubit being the distance from the elbow to the tip
of the finger of a man (or were you using Royal Egyptian Cubits, which are
longer by the handspan of the then-ruling pharaoh?), that is perfectly
feasible within the limits of accuracy of the standard in question.

In other words, Pi=3 is correct (as stated); Pi = 3.0 is not (but not
stated). Or is that to Engineerish?

It reminds me of Thompson, Rivara and Thompson: helmets save 88% of
injuries, which turns out to be 88% +12%/-28%; which I would refer to as
"approximately 9/10" to avoid implying a precision which is not supported

by

Quoted message said:

the data. This does, of course, ignore the fact that the data itself is
Complete Bollocks[tm], and is offered only as an illustration of the

concept

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of meaningless precision.

Blimey, what have I started? ;-)

--

Simon M.

Just zis Guy said:

Mark South wrote:

Of Pi=3.0 (source: God)

Quoted message said:

I have neither bible nor concordance handy, but it's in the OT and
it's to do with making a vessel which is round, and exactly one cubit
across, and exactly three cubits around the rim.

And the definition of a cubit being the distance from the elbow to the tip
of the finger of a man (or were you using Royal Egyptian Cubits, which are
longer by the handspan of the then-ruling pharaoh?), that is perfectly
feasible within the limits of accuracy of the standard in question.

In other words, Pi=3 is correct (as stated); Pi = 3.0 is not (but not
stated). Or is that to Engineerish?

The Biblical reference you need is I Kings 7:23 "He made the Sea of cast
metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits
high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it."

Elsewhere in a Bill in the Indiana State Legislature in 1897, Pi was declared
to be henceforth legally defined as 3.2. Rumours that the Bill was proposed
by a Mr Martlew are apparently unfounded although one can see how they might
have started.

Tony

"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just zis Guy said:

Mark South wrote:

Of Pi=3.0 (source: God)

Quoted message said:

I have neither bible nor concordance handy, but it's in the OT and
it's to do with making a vessel which is round, and exactly one cubit
across, and exactly three cubits around the rim.

And the definition of a cubit being the distance from the elbow to the tip
of the finger of a man (or were you using Royal Egyptian Cubits, which are
longer by the handspan of the then-ruling pharaoh?), that is perfectly
feasible within the limits of accuracy of the standard in question.

In other words, Pi=3 is correct (as stated); Pi = 3.0 is not (but not
stated). Or is that to Engineerish?

The Biblical reference you need is I Kings 7:23 "He made the Sea of cast
metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits
high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it."

Sounds right, Tony.

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Elsewhere in a Bill in the Indiana State Legislature in 1897, Pi was declared
to be henceforth legally defined as 3.2. Rumours that the Bill was proposed
by a Mr Martlew are apparently unfounded although one can see how they might
have started.

Reminds me of the Georgia state legislature passing a law to require teaching
creationism in schools. This prompted Bill Bryson to remark to the effect that
the risk was not so much Georgians having evolved from monkeys as evolving into
them.
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