Beware of serious injuries!

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>typed

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A friend has been analysing Stats 19 forms (accident returns). Apparently
"serious" injuries include anything from a bruised elbow to a coma leading
to death after a period of more than 30 days. The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

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Well, it amused me anyway :-)

Once upon a time (IIRC) 'serious' was defined as an injury resulting in

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48 hours in hospital. Seemed fair to me...

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

I've just stubbed my toe on the desk. I'm off to boil the kettle...

Graeme

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>typed

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A friend has been analysing Stats 19 forms (accident returns).

Apparently

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"serious" injuries include anything from a bruised elbow to a coma

leading

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to death after a period of more than 30 days. The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

Quoted message said:

Well, it amused me anyway :-)

Once upon a time (IIRC) 'serious' was defined as an injury resulting in
48 hours in hospital. Seemed fair to me...

I've read that when the Police / Ambulance attend an accident, they have to
record it then as serious or not. So it's not always the world's best data.

Graeme said:

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The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

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I've just stubbed my toe on the desk. I'm off to boil the kettle...

Take care, though - you can sustain a serious injury from water that hot...

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? <[email hidden]> typed:

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Graeme said:

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The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

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I've just stubbed my toe on the desk. I'm off to boil the kettle...

Take care, though - you can sustain a serious injury from water that
hot...

Ooh, boy. He's not going to use DHMO when close to a phase change, is he.
There's hundreds of deaths a year from that. Can cause extensive tissue
damage.

In fact, I cause tissue damage to my tongue by doing just that with DHMO
with added camelia extract close to once a month. Can't help it though, I'm
an addict.

A

Ambrose Nankivell said:

Ooh, boy. He's not going to use DHMO when close to a phase change, is
he. There's hundreds of deaths a year from that. Can cause extensive
tissue damage.

Indeed. I believe DHMO can be rendered Mostly Harmless by combining it with
certain vegetables and yeasts and keeping it at a certain temperature. I
have been adopting this rpecaution for a while, so it has undoubtedly Saved
My Life (tm).

Guy
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:03:18 +0100, "Doki" <[email hidden]>

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>typed

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A friend has been analysing Stats 19 forms (accident returns).

Apparently

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"serious" injuries include anything from a bruised elbow to a coma

leading

Quoted message said:

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to death after a period of more than 30 days. The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

Quoted message said:

Well, it amused me anyway :-)

Once upon a time (IIRC) 'serious' was defined as an injury resulting in
48 hours in hospital. Seemed fair to me...

I've read that when the Police / Ambulance attend an accident, they have to
record it then as serious or not. So it's not always the world's best data.

Serious injury:
An injury for which a person is detained in hospital as an
"in-patient", or any of the following injuries whether or not they are
detained in hospital: fractures, concussion, internal injuries,
crushings, burns (excluding friction burns), severe cuts and
lacerations, severe general shock requiring medical treatment and
injuries causing death 30 or more days after the accident.

As you can see, a paramedic could treat somebody at the scene yet it
could still be defined as a serious injury.

The police define what is serious and what is slight. There have been
allegations that they are pressured by the government to shift more
and more injuries from the "serious" category to "slight", because in
the "KSI" figures (which mean everything in road safety) serious
inuries account for 90% of the figures, and one less serious makes a
big difference.

Gareth

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The police define what is serious and what is slight. There have been
allegations that they are pressured by the government to shift more
and more injuries from the "serious" category to "slight", because in
the "KSI" figures (which mean everything in road safety) serious
inuries account for 90% of the figures, and one less serious makes a
big difference.

If only the government pressure were into shifting injuries from serious to
slight by reducing the amount of energy in collisions. Well, if only they
weren't hounded by speed addicted journos every time they did it, but were
actually supported by them. But hey, the less cars get crashed, the less get
sold & the less car advertising gets into the papers. So it's in the
journalists' interests to keep the roads dangerous and keep driving looking
glamourous.

Ooh look, I've written a standard URC rant. Apologies.

A

Just zis Guy said:

Graeme said:

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The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

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I've just stubbed my toe on the desk. I'm off to boil the kettle...

Take care, though - you can sustain a serious injury from water that hot...

The standard text book on laser safety written by good friends of mine
concludes with an analysis of hammer safety. Its an interesting tongue in
cheek read about the damage potential of a hammer and the need for safety
controls and protection to prevent such damage happening. There is another
tongue in cheek safety analysis done by the Atomic Energy Authority where they
applied the safety requirement of the nuclear industry to water. Working from
the minimum amount of water needed to cause death they extrapolated to the
risk of this infinite half life material to the general population.
Reservoirs became weapons of mass destruction, bath, sinks and toilets
intolerable and even cups of tea were potentially fatal.

Tony

Just zis Guy said:

A friend has been analysing Stats 19 forms (accident returns). Apparently
"serious" injuries include anything from a bruised elbow to a coma leading
to death after a period of more than 30 days. The medical attention
required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a cup of tea."

Well, it amused me anyway :-)

I recall many years ago there was an attempt to have a variety of levels of
death. Can't remember whether any of them were treatable with a cup of tea
though.

Tony

Tony Raven said:

I recall many years ago there was an attempt to have a variety of levels of
death. Can't remember whether any of them were treatable with a cup of tea
though.

Apparently a hot cup of tea is a standard treatment for death on board
commercial airliners.

Tony Raven said:

I recall many years ago there was an attempt to have a variety of levels of
death. Can't remember whether any of them were treatable with a cup of tea
though.

I hope that idea is now very dead.

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Soup popped his head over the parapet,saw what was going on and said

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A friend has been analysing Stats 19 forms (accident returns).
Apparently "serious" injuries include anything from a bruised elbow
to a coma leading to death after a period of more than 30 days. The
medical attention required for slight injuries apparently incudes "a
cup of tea."

Well, it amused me anyway :-)

Guy

Was a first aider at work and even if someone asked me for a plaster for
a paper cut, I had to log it in the "accident book" along with the advice
"if you still get trouble from it seek medical advice from your own doctor"
was willing to take a lot more responsibility but was told it was part of
the insurance (or it may have had something to do with claiming sick pay )
that I didn't decide if anyone was o.k. had to be a fully trained medic
i.e. ambulanceman or doctor. Of course virtually no-one bothered
there own doctor but I had given the advice, so the company was
covered.
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Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabris, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.

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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

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Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabris, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.

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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabris, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.

Timeo Danaos et catapultas ferentes.

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Tony Raven said:

I recall many years ago there was an attempt to have a variety of levels of
death. Can't remember whether any of them were treatable with a cup of tea
though.

So that will be where Garth Nix gets his ideas from then.

Referring to another post on this thread - the recomendation to see
your doctor if the cut/injury/nasty cough/whatever continued to cause
problems was also part of the St John Ambulance standard procedure.
Presumably it was also to avoid being sued, though customers would often
ask how long something could be expect to take to get better anyway.
Such illnesses included ringing ears after rock concerts.

I never got to do first aid for a cycle race. Apparently they're quite
interesting. Because of this, I can't answer the "to shave or not to
shave" question that often comes up on this group.

- Richard

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Take care, though - you can sustain a serious injury from water that
hot...

Don't I know it. I've been sterilising my son's baby bottles by boiling
them and some weeks back managed to sterilise a couple of my fingertips by
accident. This has the added benefit that after a a few days the dirty
outer skin falls off to reveal a nice shiny clean layer underneath :-/

I now use a microwave steam steriliser and leave it for about 10 minutes
after it is done before picking it up.

(The tea worked a treat by the way)

Graeme

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I never got to do first aid for a cycle race. Apparently they're quite
interesting. Because of this, I can't answer the "to shave or not to
shave" question that often comes up on this group.

I stopped off at a first aid station during a sponsored bike ride round the
Trossachs in the early nineties. From what I could see almost everyone was
there for the same reason as me - bloody midgies! They were out in force
that day and people were doing anything to dull the itch. I now carry Tiger
Balm in similar situations.

Graeme