Dealing with dogs?

"FranklynMint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980 (makes mental
note to buy a new one)....If I remember rightly, it had a section on how
to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle. Fascinating stuff

Yep, I remember that, something about shoving the pump down the dogs throat.
Alternatively, find the owner and shove the pump up their ar*e, I imagine
this will stop future attacks!

Cheers
John

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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FranklynMint said:

I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980 (makes
mental note to buy a new one)....If I remember rightly, it had a
section on how to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would perform, proibably
another instance where the good old Zefal HPX is superior ;-)

Think Live and Let Die

best wishes
james

Tumbleweed said:

Is there a standard or best way of dealing with dogs? Just got back from
holiday, whilst there I hired a bike and did a few k, at one point two dogs
got very aggressive and I discovered just how fast I could cycle ... faster
than I ever thought possible, which was luckily for me faster than the dogs!
I then had to take a large detour to make sure I didnt meet them on the way
back!

BTW, I did nothing to aggravate them....didnt shout at them or do anything
other than cycle past the [censored].

I find that 95% of dogs will slink away if you look them straight in the
eye, point to one side and say in your deepest voice, "BUGGER OFF"
(little dogs sometimes roll on their backs in terror).

With something like a Rottweiler or Alsatian, either learn to sprint or
defend yourself with a pump. I outran an Alsatian once, only because I
reached a steep downhill bit before it sank its teeth into my leg. On
the flat it would have had me.

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Zog The Undeniable said:

I find that 95% of dogs will slink away if you look them straight in the
eye,

Just look at them. Dogs hunt in packs, so that the prey can't keep all of
them in sight, and some can move in _from behind_.

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With something like a Rottweiler or Alsatian, either learn to sprint or
defend yourself with a pump.

Just talk reasonably to them.

My scariest dog moment was on foot. I was on a quiet back road, passing
a front garden containing a small toddler and a large alsatian. Dog
looks suspicious. Toddler calls to it - presumably thinks it would be
a good idea if we all live and let live. Dog hears note of mild alarm
in toddlers voice and of course goes into defensive mode.
Dog halfheartedly attacks, but Yours Truly remains calm and diffuses the
situation. If I'd behaved aggressively (or frightened), I'm sure the dog
would have gone into all-out fighting mode to protect toddler and property.

--
Nick Kew

FranklynMint <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980 (makes mental
note to buy a new one)....If I remember rightly, it had a section on how
to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle. Fascinating stuff

Yes I had that book too. I seem to rember one technique of last resort
if a large dog had your arm being to try and shove your fist down its
throat and choke it to death.
Subsequent editions had the dog defence section removed due to
objections by animal lovers. I'm an animal lover but any dog that
attacks without provocation deserves alll it gets.
Iain

james said:

Just zis Guy said:

FranklynMint said:

I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980 (makes
mental note to buy a new one)....If I remember rightly, it had a
section on how to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.

ITYM "bicycle pump". Not sure how well a CO2 pump would perform,

proibably

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another instance where the good old Zefal HPX is superior ;-)

Think Live and Let Die

Or Jaws, though you might need to borrow a rifle for this, though. ;-)

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FranklynMint <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980 (makes
mental note to buy a new one)....If I remember rightly, it had a
section on how to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle.
Fascinating stuff

Yes I had that book too. I seem to rember one technique of last resort
if a large dog had your arm being to try and shove your fist down its
throat and choke it to death. Subsequent editions had the dog defence
section removed due to objections by animal lovers. I'm an animal lover
but any dog that attacks without provocation deserves alll it gets. Iain

I seem to remember something about ramming its head between spokes of
rear wheel (presuming dog ain't too big, and that you're saying adios to
your spokes), then pushing down hard as billy-o on the pedal. Might not
work for squirrels (see other posts), and a bit of a struggle, I'd
wager. I'll try it out on next doors yappy terrier and let you know :-)

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I'll try it out on next doors yappy terrier and let you know :-)

No, the treatment for dogs the size of yappy terriers was to pick them up
by their back legs and smack their head off a rock.

Graeme

iarocu said:

Yes I had that book too. I seem to rember one technique of last resort
if a large dog had your arm being to try and shove your fist down its
throat and choke it to death.

And if that fails you have to resort to the stash in the end of your bars.

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Guy
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FranklynMint said:

I had a copy of Richard's Bicycle Book back in about 1980 (makes mental
note to buy a new one)....If I remember rightly, it had a section on how
to kill a rabid, attacking dog with your bicycle. Fascinating stuff

I have my original 1975 edition from which I can quote:

"If a dog attacks: an effective defence is the aerosol pepper sprays made
exactly for this purpose. They have a range of about ten feet and are light
enough to clip to the handlebars or to your belt. Or a water/ammonia solution
can be sprayed with a squeeze out of a small plastic container such as is used
for detergent or hair shampoo. Even an ammonia filled water pistol will work.
If you have neither of these and can't or won't climb a tree, get a stick or a
large rock. No? The bicycle pump. Try to ram it down its throat. In any
event don't cower or cover up, because the dog will only chew you to ribbons.
Attack. Any small dog can simply be hoisted by the hind legs and its brains
dashed out. With a big dog you are fighting for your life. If you are
weaponless try to tangle him up in your bike and then strangle him. Kicks to
the genitals and which break ribs are effective. If worst comes to worst, ram
your entire arm down his throat. He will choke and die. Better your arm than
your throat. You can avoid this problem by carrying pepper spray or an
ammonia solution"

At the time I dotted on Richard's Bicycle Book but re-reading it now it all
seems rather quaint.

Tony

Tony Raven said:

I have my original 1975 edition from which I can quote:

"If a dog attacks: an effective defence is the aerosol pepper sprays made
exactly for this purpose. They have a range of about ten feet and are light
enough to clip to the handlebars or to your belt.

Fine if your a police officer/postal worker.

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Or a water/ammonia solution
can be sprayed with a squeeze out of a small plastic container such as is used
for detergent or hair shampoo. Even an ammonia filled water pistol will work.

Hummm, except in the UK where these items, like pepper spray, are
considered to be Class 5 firearms, along with machine guns and the like...

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Tony Raven said:

I have my original 1975 edition from which I can quote:

"If a dog attacks: an effective defence is the aerosol pepper sprays made
exactly for this purpose. They have a range of about ten feet and are light
enough to clip to the handlebars or to your belt.

Fine if your a police officer/postal worker.

A few weeks ago, I was cycling back from club night. Along a country lane and
all of a sudden, I had had a large wite & brown terrier-type canine snapping at
my ankles & barking loudly. What I did was entirely without thought - I just
got up out of the saddle, looked *hard* at the dog and *barked* back at it at a
volume considerably louder than it was barking at me (Dad was a regimental
sergeant-major & mother could yell louder than him... it's in my genes). Said
snapping terrier turned tail and ran away yelping.

I was very glad it was only one dog. More than one and you've got a pack and
that's a different thing altogether.

Cheers, helen s

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A few weeks ago, I was cycling back from club night. Along a country lane and
all of a sudden, I had had a large wite & brown terrier-type canine snapping at
my ankles & barking loudly. What I did was entirely without thought - I just
got up out of the saddle, looked *hard* at the dog and *barked* back at it at a
volume considerably louder than it was barking at me (Dad was a regimental
sergeant-major & mother could yell louder than him... it's in my genes). Said
snapping terrier turned tail and ran away yelping.

Bit like my method, then. I just shout at 'em, as loud and as deep as I can.
As far as the dog is concerned, the louder and deeper the voice is, the bigger and
nastier whatever it is chasing must be.

It set out after something that was, to it's perception, running away. Now whatever
it was chasing has stopped, and my but it sounds bloody enormous! The average dog
at this point usually stops to think.

The thing then is not to mount up and cycle away, because unless the dog's in
full retreat, it'll reckon you're running away again. No, the trick is to stare
it down, then retreat slowly, keeping looking at it, and if you've got a pump
wave that menacingly.

Any further agression from the dog, shout again and make as if to attack.
The point is to convince the dog that it has just made a very, very big mistake
and attacked something that can look after its self.

With a pack, however, you've got serious problems. Try shouting, don't try
running, and if ever one looks like it can be hurt with a good kick, boot it one
quickly and you'll have one less in the pack.

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Dan Holdsworth PhD [email hidden]
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