NASCAR drivers are NOT athletes.

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Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

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Ronde Chumpion

What does a NASCAR driver do to work out, lift his foot up
and down repeatedly?

Mike

When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have the same opinion as
you.

But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a circuit. I liked it so
much that I started racing and then took a license to race in the local
karting championships (I live in Galicia, northwest of Spain).
What I want to inform you is that motor racing is by no means a no-effort
sport, in fact there is a lot of energy and muscle power to spend when you
train and race.
Of course it cannot be compared with cycling in terms of physical effort
(anyway the list of those sports is not so big), but in order to be a good
driver you must be very well physically.
If you don't believe this please try to check it by driving a racing kart (I
mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who are inside the sport
to tell you.

For your information, I have raced during six years in cycling (1980-85) and
two years in karting (1994-95). Now I play chess (2003-?)

Regards
Antonio Sanchez

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Hey,

Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

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Ronde Chumpion

I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then straight, then
counter-clockwise. then straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight,
then....

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Hey,

Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

Thanks,
Ronde Chumpion

What does a NASCAR driver do to work out, lift his foot up
and down repeatedly?

Mike

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Hey,

Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

Thanks,
Ronde Chumpion

That goes for golfers, too. Walking is not a sport (nor is riding in a
golf cart).

AMG

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Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

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ronde chumpion said:

Hey,

Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

Thanks,
Ronde Chumpion

Whatever happened to the british bid to have Contract Bridge included in
the summer olympics? (I did not make this up)

AMG said:

ronde chumpion said:

Hey,

Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

Thanks,
Ronde Chumpion

That goes for golfers, too. Walking is not a sport (nor is riding in a
golf cart).

AMG

Golf is a sport when you carry your own bag. Kind of an endurance
sport, walking 18 holes, hauling around all that weight in the sun and
still trying to hit the ball well. All bets are off when you have a
caddy and a cart, tho.

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I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then straight, then
counter-clockwise. then straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight,
then....

Since their tracks are mostly an oval, you only have to practice
turning one way. That tip should cut down on their workout
routine.

Michael's Rule: It's not a sport if you can be good at it and smoke
a cigarette at the same time.

-- Mike

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Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

Some sports are VERY aerobic, very physical, others are significantly less
so.

It is often said that at the champion level, all sport is 90% mental, so the
physical and strength and exertion part is only 10%, right? Could one then
say the top NASCAR guy and the Top Swimmer/Runner/Bicyclist/golfer are 90%
the same champion?

Frank Dumoulan (FRA), Tanu Kiriakov (BUL), Tao Luna (CHN) and Jonas Edman
(SWE) participate in what must be the LEAST aerobic sports in the olympics,
but their medals from Syndey 2000 are just as GOLD as all the others! And
their sport is just as mentailly demanding, maybe more-so than most of the
others.

Poole
Arizona
(in training for 2008)

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What does a NASCAR driver do to work out, lift his foot up
and down repeatedly?

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I think thats riding a bike...... I will never understand the apeal
nascar has to some people. Why is dale e...whatever regarded as such a
hero?

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It is often said that at the champion level, all sport is 90% mental, so the
physical and strength and exertion part is only 10%, right? Could one then
say the top NASCAR guy and the Top Swimmer/Runner/Bicyclist/golfer are 90%
the same champion?

Maybe in future Olympics, they could include the sport
of writing legal briefs. That's kind of mental, and the trips
on the steps the law library could divide the sprinters from the
climbers.

M.

Michael said:

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I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then straight, then
counter-clockwise. then straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight,
then....

Since their tracks are mostly an oval, you only have to practice
turning one way. That tip should cut down on their workout
routine.

Michael's Rule: It's not a sport if you can be good at it and smoke
a cigarette at the same time.

-- Mike

How about have a bear gut and still compete at the top level?

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Michael said:

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I think they also turn a wheel counter-clockwise. then straight, then
counter-clockwise. then straight, then counter-clockwise. then straight,
then....

Since their tracks are mostly an oval, you only have to practice
turning one way. That tip should cut down on their workout
routine.

Michael's Rule: It's not a sport if you can be good at it and smoke
a cigarette at the same time.

-- Mike

How about have a bear gut and still compete at the top level?

Warren Sapp.

M.

Bill Poole said:

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Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

Some sports are VERY aerobic, very physical, others are significantly less
so.

It is often said that at the champion level, all sport is 90% mental, so the
physical and strength and exertion part is only 10%, right? Could one then
say the top NASCAR guy and the Top Swimmer/Runner/Bicyclist/golfer are 90%
the same champion?

Frank Dumoulan (FRA), Tanu Kiriakov (BUL), Tao Luna (CHN) and Jonas Edman
(SWE) participate in what must be the LEAST aerobic sports in the olympics,
but their medals from Syndey 2000 are just as GOLD as all the others! And
their sport is just as mentailly demanding, maybe more-so than most of the
others.

Poole
Arizona
(in training for 2008)

I think I'd accept car racing in the olympics if the drivers had to
compete in one of these:

http://www.pedalcar.com/

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Michael's Rule: It's not a sport if you can be good at it and smoke
a cigarette at the same time.

-- Mike

Damn! I knew the Bubbas were right about cycling not being a sport.
http://store.velogear.com/smokersposter.html
Bill C

What about Poker? It's on ESPN! :-)

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Hey,

Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

Thanks,
Ronde Chumpion

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When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have the same opinion as
you.

But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a circuit. I liked it so
much that I started racing and then took a license to race in the local
karting championships (I live in Galicia, northwest of Spain).
What I want to inform you is that motor racing is by no means a no-effort
sport, in fact there is a lot of energy and muscle power to spend when you
train and race.
Of course it cannot be compared with cycling in terms of physical effort
(anyway the list of those sports is not so big), but in order to be a good
driver you must be very well physically.
If you don't believe this please try to check it by driving a racing kart

(I

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mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who are inside the

sport

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to tell you.

For your information, I have raced during six years in cycling (1980-85)

and

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two years in karting (1994-95). Now I play chess (2003-?)

Regards
Antonio Sanchez

IAWTP. While I don't consider racecar drivers to be pure 'athletes' in the
same vein as cyclists, basketball players, etc., they do have to have some
level of physical fitness to be able to drive a car around for hours on end
at very high rates of speed. Like any pro-level athlete, they make it look
easy because they are on a different plane than your average weekend
warrior. In addition, similar to pro cyclists superhuman genetics, I
believe top racecar drivers have their own superhuman genetics - reflexes
and concentration abilities.

Just doing laps in a competition-level vehicle is not enough - get out there
and drive in a real race to get the full effect. It's not as easy as it
looks - both physically and mentally.
Jeff

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Hey,

Neither are golfers, pool players, golfers, and most baseball players.

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Ronde Chumpion

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When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have the same opinion as
you.

But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a circuit. I liked it so
much that I started racing and then took a license to race in the local
karting championships (I live in Galicia, northwest of Spain).
What I want to inform you is that motor racing is by no means a no-effort
sport, in fact there is a lot of energy and muscle power to spend when you
train and race.
Of course it cannot be compared with cycling in terms of physical effort
(anyway the list of those sports is not so big), but in order to be a good
driver you must be very well physically.
If you don't believe this please try to check it by driving a racing kart

(I

Quoted message said:

mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who are inside the

sport

Quoted message said:

to tell you.

For your information, I have raced during six years in cycling (1980-85)

and

Quoted message said:

two years in karting (1994-95). Now I play chess (2003-?)

Regards
Antonio Sanchez

IAWTP. While I don't consider racecar drivers to be pure 'athletes' in the
same vein as cyclists, basketball players, etc., they do have to have some
level of physical fitness to be able to drive a car around for hours on end
at very high rates of speed. Like any pro-level athlete, they make it look
easy because they are on a different plane than your average weekend
warrior. In addition, similar to pro cyclists superhuman genetics, I
believe top racecar drivers have their own superhuman genetics - reflexes
and concentration abilities.

Just doing laps in a competition-level vehicle is not enough - get out there
and drive in a real race to get the full effect. It's not as easy as it
looks - both physically and mentally.
Jeff

People should watch the video of Jeff Gordon getting out of his car in
victory circle after he won the Infineon race. He could barely craw out
of his car because he was so wipped out. Thigs were worse for Jeff
because his airconditioned driving suit failed so he was dealing with
150 degree heat in his car during the last 1/2 of his race. Also road
courses are much tougher than oval tracks.

Look at the riders who are near the top of the driver standings in
NASCAR. They are not overweight or out of shape. The top drivers are in
good shape ( not in the fattie masters category).

Als if auto racing is not physically demanding how come there aren't a
bunch of women in the top levels of racing. Of course there is some
good old boy club" mentality that helps make it tough on women drivers
but there are enough women in the ower levels of racing so that if
physical concerns weren't important a few more of them should have
cricked into the top ranks of racing by now.

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"Antonio Sanchez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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When I knew nothing about motor racing I used to have the same opinion as
you.

But one day I rented a kart and did some laps on a circuit. I liked it so
much that I started racing and then took a license to race in the local
karting championships (I live in Galicia, northwest of Spain).
What I want to inform you is that motor racing is by no means a no-effort
sport, in fact there is a lot of energy and muscle power to spend when you
train and race.
Of course it cannot be compared with cycling in terms of physical effort
(anyway the list of those sports is not so big), but in order to be a good
driver you must be very well physically.
If you don't believe this please try to check it by driving a racing kart

(I

Quoted message said:

mean a compettion model, if you can) or ask people who are inside the

sport

Quoted message said:

to tell you.

For your information, I have raced during six years in cycling (1980-85)

and

Quoted message said:

two years in karting (1994-95). Now I play chess (2003-?)

Regards
Antonio Sanchez

IAWTP. While I don't consider racecar drivers to be pure 'athletes' in the
same vein as cyclists, basketball players, etc., they do have to have some
level of physical fitness to be able to drive a car around for hours on end
at very high rates of speed. Like any pro-level athlete, they make it look
easy because they are on a different plane than your average weekend
warrior. In addition, similar to pro cyclists superhuman genetics, I
believe top racecar drivers have their own superhuman genetics - reflexes
and concentration abilities.

Just doing laps in a competition-level vehicle is not enough - get out there
and drive in a real race to get the full effect. It's not as easy as it
looks - both physically and mentally.
Jeff

People should watch the video of Jeff Gordon getting out of his car in
victory circle after he won the Infineon race. He could barely craw out
of his car because he was so wipped out.

Yeah, diesel truck drivers are like that too.

M.