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  1. Hi Folks,
    I'm a casual/weekend biker and looking to buy a bike....will
    appreciate any help.
    I bike about 15-18 mi, once/twice a week. Mostly on paved/unpaved
    trails around Chicago - where I live. Its not hilly around here and I
    do not intend to go on hills either. I ride my cousin's mountain bike,
    would like to get one for myself now that I know I will continue doing
    this.
    Which bikes (brand etc) would you guys recommend? How much should I be
    looking to spend?.

    Might seem like a stupid question, or maybe I could try it myself,
    Does anyone carry their bike inside the car?

    Thanks in advance
    Ace

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Folks,
    I'm a casual/weekend biker and looking to buy a bike....will
    appreciate any help.
    I bike about 15-18 mi, once/twice a week. Mostly on paved/unpaved
    trails around Chicago - where I live. Its not hilly around here and I
    do not intend to go on hills either. I ride my cousin's mountain bike,
    would like to get one for myself now that I know I will continue doing
    this.

    Welcome to the cycling world! Make yourself at home, and don't be
    surprised if you start wanting to ride a lot more than you are right
    now; it's a rather addictive passtime <grin>. If you find yourself
    riding more on paved trails or roads, you might be looking for a
    different style of bike, but you can worry about that when the time
    comes.

    Quoted message said:

    Which bikes (brand etc) would you guys recommend? How much should I be
    looking to spend?.

    Most of the major manufacturers (Trek and Fuji to name two) have several
    good entry-level mountain and hybrid (similar construction, but usually
    lighter than a mountain bike, and with smooth tires for less rolling
    resistance on paved surfaces) bike models for less than $300, and some
    less than $250, which you should be able to find at your local bike
    shop. You might even find them on closeout for around $200. Some
    models to look at would be the Trek Navigator 820, or the Trek 3500 or
    3700.

    Quoted message said:


    Might seem like a stupid question, or maybe I could try it myself,
    Does anyone carry their bike inside the car?

    Yes, lots.

    --
    Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
    newsgroups if possible).

  3. Ace said:

    I bike about 15-18 mi, once/twice a week. Mostly on paved/unpaved
    trails around Chicago - where I live.

    Chicago is flat and that's not a whole lot of miles, I'd get something
    used or inexpensive and upgrade if you get into it. $300 buys a good
    citybike --I'd recommend a Shimano Nexus internal 7-speed for Chicago
    since weight doesn't really matter so much because of the flatness--no/low
    maintainance means more riding.

    Where to buy?

    Rapid Transit on North Avenue is highly recommended, I bought a Marin city
    bike with a Nexus hub there a few years ago, it was stolen, and because of
    their network, they found and returned it!!

    Urban Bikes, if they're still open, on the northside can
    build/sell/restore a nice sleazy urban assault vehicle for ya.

  4. If I only had one bike I could own, it would be a cyclocross bike.

    Those bikes can go anywhere. I've had one since 2002 and I still ride
    it.

    --

  5. Ace said:

    Hi Folks,
    I'm a casual/weekend biker and looking to buy a bike....will
    appreciate any help.
    I bike about 15-18 mi, once/twice a week. Mostly on paved/unpaved
    trails around Chicago - where I live. Its not hilly around here and I
    do not intend to go on hills either. I ride my cousin's mountain bike,
    would like to get one for myself now that I know I will continue doing
    this.

    Get whatever's comfortable. Road bikes with drop bars are ultimately more
    comfortable for most fit riders, but everyone's different. If you're riding
    mostly on pavement, and hardpacked, flat trails, you'll be happiest with fast,
    slick tires, and taller, road-oriented gearing. So a "hybrid" would be better
    than a "mountain bike," if you don't just get a "road bike" (which is probably
    best if you're pretty fit already).

    Quoted message said:

    Which bikes (brand etc) would you guys recommend?

    Trek and its subsidiary brands (Lemond, Klein, Fisher, etc.) have the best
    warranty service in the biz. Otherwise it doesn't matter -- all brands'
    offerings are pretty much the same.

    Most important is fit, and a shop that will fit you well and take care of you
    afterward.

    Finally, you'll probably be happiest if you spend *less* on the bike itself,
    leaving plenty in your budget for good clothing and accessories. These things
    make far more difference in your riding experience than the bike iteslf, IMO.

    Quoted message said:

    How much should I be
    looking to spend?

    Probably at least $300.

    Quoted message said:

    Might seem like a stupid question, or maybe I could try it myself,
    Does anyone carry their bike inside the car?

    All the time. Most bikes fit in most cars. All you have to do is take the
    wheels off.

    OK, that's enough from me for today!

    Matt O.

  6. mattp71 said:

    If I only had one bike I could own, it would be a cyclocross bike.

    i agree.

    Quoted message said:

    Those bikes can go anywhere. I've had one since 2002 and I still ride
    it.

    after two whole years?
    --
    david reuteler
    [email hidden]

  7. On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 15:48:26 -0400, "Matt O'Toole" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Finally, you'll probably be happiest if you spend *less* on the bike itself,
    leaving plenty in your budget for good clothing and accessories. These things
    make far more difference in your riding experience than the bike iteslf, IMO.

    I was with you up until this part.

    IMO, spend as much as your budget will allow on the bike. Forget the
    accessories.

    Get the top of the line or as close to it as possible. THink of the cost in
    terms of dollars per month if you have 'sticker shock'. You won't regret
    it.

    As for accessories, you only need gloves, an glasses mirror, and a cheap
    bike computer ($60 total). The rest you can get yourself as presents for
    making those mini-milestones.

    -B
    Maybe I'm missing a tongue-in-cheek comment here, or something, sheesh.

  8. Picking a bicycle is a very personal decision that depends on what you are
    using the bike for, how much you are willing to spend, whether you have to
    carry the bike upstairs, how much you weigh and a variety of other factors.

    My main advice on buying a bike is to go to a good bicycle store -- one that
    specializes only in bicycles and talk over you needs with someone there who
    really knows bikes and respects cyclists. Do not buy a "department store" bike
    from Sears, Wal-Mart, etc. You will probably be disappointed. Check with a
    bicycle club in your area for reccommendations.

    A few reputable brands include Trek, Cannondale, Giant, Janis and Raleigh. I'd
    look to spend at least $300 and more likely in the neighborhood of $500 to $700
    for a decent bike. Later on, if you really get into it, you can trade up.

    I started with my son's Specialized Hardrock that he abandoned when he got a
    car. It cost about $350 new, as I recall. I now ride a Trek 520 touring bike --
    mostly for urban commuting -- that I bought for about $1,000. I love it. It
    carries my hefty weight, accepts a lot of attachments such as racks and
    fenders, is light enough for me to haul up a flight of stairs, has a steel
    frame and sturdy rims.

    Be sure the bike is properly sized and fitted by someone who knows what they
    are doing.

    As for accessories, again it depends on what you are using the bike for. I'm
    partial to a good mirror, a rack, fenders, a bell, a seat bag, a frame pump, a
    water bottle and a computer (speedometer/odometer). Oh, yes, and a helmet.

    When I engage in "intermodal transportation" I carry my bike on a Saris bike
    rack. I'm not partial to grease inside my car.

    Good luck -- and happy trails.

    David

  9. Go to the Working Bikes Co-op on Western Avenue. They rebuild old bicycles
    that would otherwise end up on the scrapeheap. And they know a great deal
    about Bicycles and will be able to get you into the right sized cycle.
    Personally I'd go for one of the old Road Bikes.

  10. (Ace) said:

    Might seem like a stupid question, or maybe I could try it myself,
    Does anyone carry their bike inside the car?

    Yes. People who don't like highway crud on their bikes, or who don't
    feel the need to spend extra money, or who want to be sure their
    bike stays with them, or who are otherwise thinking before buying.

    Mine goes in the bed of my pickup, but if I had a reasonably large
    car, I wouldn't hesitate to put the bike in there. Sometimes, if I'm
    going into a store or something, I put the bike in the cab of my
    truck (behind the seats).

    Taking the wheels off the bike to fit it in a smaller car is still
    quicker than strapping it _securely_ to a trunk rack. Roof racks
    might be quicker, but they expose the bike to every little rock that
    the dumptruck in front of you kicks up...and they're expensive.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  11. "Ace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Folks,
    I'm a casual/weekend biker and looking to buy a bike....will
    appreciate any help.
    I bike about 15-18 mi, once/twice a week. Mostly on paved/unpaved
    trails around Chicago - where I live. Its not hilly around here and I
    do not intend to go on hills either. I ride my cousin's mountain bike,
    would like to get one for myself now that I know I will continue doing
    this.
    Which bikes (brand etc) would you guys recommend? How much should I be
    looking to spend?.

    Probably somewhere in the hybrid, mountain bike category. Mountain bike with
    slick tires is a pretty versatile choice.
    All the major labels (Trek, Giant, etc.) have bikes in this category.

    Quoted message said:


    Might seem like a stupid question, or maybe I could try it myself,
    Does anyone carry their bike inside the car?


    Occasionally. If you want to do this, don't get fenders. Do get quick
    release (most all bikes will have quick relese wheels). Derailleur good,
    internal hub bad (at least the old S-A and Sachs/SRAM ones, which complicate
    wheel removal; don't know about Nexus).

    You don't say where you are in Chicago. Amlings is a nice shop in Niles
    (Milwaukee, north of Oakton). The other 3 shops mentioned run the urban
    gamut from nice, new, expert staff (Rapid Transit) to urban reconditioned /
    urban new (Urban Bikes) to salvaged used, fixed up by volunteers (Working
    Bikes Coop).

    --
    ---
    Mike Kruger
    Blog: http://journals.aol.com/mikekr/ZbicyclistsZlog/

  12. Badger_South wrote:

    As for accessories, you only need gloves, an glasses mirror, and a cheap

    Quoted message said:

    bike computer ($60 total). The rest you can get yourself as presents for
    making those mini-milestones.

    And with a good investment, you want to secure it. Buy a lock.

  13. On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 01:22:57 GMT, DarkSamurai <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Badger_South wrote:

    As for accessories, you only need gloves, an glasses mirror, and a cheap

    Quoted message said:

    bike computer ($60 total). The rest you can get yourself as presents for
    making those mini-milestones.

    And with a good investment, you want to secure it. Buy a lock.

    Yeah, and I forgot wrap-around sunglasses and bike shorts.

    -B
    (See the thread about 'carrying your bike into the store' for a alternative
    to locking...)

  14. Badger_South said:

    On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 01:22:57 GMT, DarkSamurai <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Badger_South wrote:

    As for accessories, you only need gloves, an glasses mirror, and a cheap

    Quoted message said:

    bike computer ($60 total). The rest you can get yourself as presents for
    making those mini-milestones.

    And with a good investment, you want to secure it. Buy a lock.

    Yeah, and I forgot wrap-around sunglasses and bike shorts.

    -B
    (See the thread about 'carrying your bike into the store' for a alternative
    to locking...)

    Yeah, ride with style!

  15. Ace said:

    Hi Folks,
    I'm a casual/weekend biker and looking to buy a bike....will
    appreciate any help.
    I bike about 15-18 mi, once/twice a week. Mostly on paved/unpaved
    trails around Chicago - where I live. Its not hilly around here and I
    do not intend to go on hills either. I ride my cousin's mountain bike,
    would like to get one for myself now that I know I will continue doing
    this.
    Which bikes (brand etc) would you guys recommend? How much should I be
    looking to spend?.

    I have about the same riding schedule as you, but I average about 3 rides a week,
    with the weekend ride being 30-40 miles. Mostly paved roads and paths, but
    occasional gravel trails.

    I have a 2002 Trek Navigator 300. It is a comfort bike, which is bascially a mix
    between a hybrid and a mountain bike. It has wide tires like a MTB, but they are
    smooth around the middle so the friction losses on the road aren't high. Rides
    gravel like a champ, and is a nice urban bike for the roads.

    I got a comfort bike over a hybrid because I wanted the wider tires for gravel. I
    was afraid that the skinnier hybrid tires may be unstable on gravel. But after a
    couple years of riding and seeing others on gravel trails, I would probably change
    my choice and get a hybrid. They seem to handle the gravel well, plus it would be
    more efficient for pavement, which is what I'm usually on. But I still am very
    happy with my Navigator.

    I spent $400 on the bike plus $100 in initial accessories. (I've since spent
    another $200 or so on other stuff ) That seems to be a good starter price for
    quality components.

    Quoted message said:

    Might seem like a stupid question, or maybe I could try it myself,
    Does anyone carry their bike inside the car?

    I have trunk rack for my car, but I only use it if I have to carry more than one
    bike. If I'm just lugging mine, I take the front wheel off (piece of cake), fold
    down the rear seat, and throw it in the trunk. I have a Cavalier, so even small
    cars can pretty easily fit a bike inside, given you can fold the rear seat. It is
    much easier than putting on the trunk rack, plus it is secure both in placement
    and from theft.

    --
    Craig Holl
    Mechanical Engineer; New Berlin, WI
    http://www.midwestroads.com/craigholl/bike
    *remove all numbers and caps to reply*

  16. mattp71 said:

    If I only had one bike I could own, it would be a cyclocross bike.

    with two sets of wheels of course, cyclocross bangers and some road
    skinnies.

    😄

  17. Mike Kruger said:

    Derailleur good,
    internal hub bad (at least the old S-A and Sachs/SRAM ones, which complicate
    wheel removal; don't know about Nexus).

    Removing a Nexus wheel requires a wrench, since they're bolt on, a philips
    head to remove the brake stop arm, and a bit of skill to disengage the
    shifter cable. Yeah, it's a pain to do regularly--but I've put thousands
    of miles on one and they're brilliant! 7 perfectly usable gears and a wide
    style chain that doesn't really care what you lube it with. I'd definitely
    get a bike rack if I went that route though.

    😄

  18. (Ace) said:

    Hi Folks,
    I'm a casual/weekend biker and looking to buy a bike....will
    appreciate any help.
    I bike about 15-18 mi, once/twice a week. Mostly on paved/unpaved
    trails around Chicago - where I live. Its not hilly around here and I
    do not intend to go on hills either. I ride my cousin's mountain bike,
    would like to get one for myself now that I know I will continue doing
    this.
    Which bikes (brand etc) would you guys recommend? How much should I be
    looking to spend?.

    I'm no expert, but I recently had to make a decision on a bike for
    similar purposes: mostly paved trails and roads, some unpaved trails.
    Plus, I haven't owned a bike in years.

    I finally settled on a 2003 Raleigh SC200, a sport/comfort bike not
    unlike the Trek Navigator line. I paid $325 for a leftover 2003 model.
    I also looked at the Navigators, but the Raleigh had one thing I
    really wanted, which was trigger-style shifting, rather than the
    twist-shifters. The guys at the bike store also felt that the Raleigh
    has a better front fork (RockShox Metro) than the Trek.

    Quoted message said:


    Might seem like a stupid question, or maybe I could try it myself,
    Does anyone carry their bike inside the car?

    I carried 2 of them (my girl bought one too) back from the shop in my
    Toyota Celica, which is not a big car. They both fit in the back with
    the rear seat folded down and with the front wheels removed from the
    bikes. If you transport it that way regularly, I would stash a heavy
    blanket in the car so the bike's extremities don't scuff up your car's
    interior.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks in advance
    Ace

  19. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As for accessories, you only need gloves, an glasses mirror, and a cheap
    bike computer ($60 total). The rest you can get yourself as presents for
    making those mini-milestones.

    I don't have a glasses mirror, and I do thousands of miles -- this is hardly
    a "need". Cyclocomputer is nice, but not a "need" either. Mine gets out of
    position all time, and my mileage and speed remain unrecorded, and I still
    manage to ride plenty.

    What you really need are decent gloves and shorts -- this makes the
    difference in terms of comfort, and thus ability to stick to it.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  20. Claire Petersky said:

    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As for accessories, you only need gloves, an glasses mirror, and a cheap
    bike computer ($60 total). The rest you can get yourself as presents for
    making those mini-milestones.

    I don't have a glasses mirror, and I do thousands of miles -- this is hardly
    a "need". Cyclocomputer is nice, but not a "need" either. Mine gets out of
    position all time, and my mileage and speed remain unrecorded, and I still
    manage to ride plenty.

    What you really need are decent gloves and shorts -- this makes the
    difference in terms of comfort, and thus ability to stick to it.

    Oh, yeah, I don't doubt it. I just picked the things that, for me, as a
    noob, made a definite difference. I rode for the first 5 months with
    gardening gloves and an old raincoat (in winter). Then when I felt like I
    deserved it, got the gloves and bike computer at a discount. Finally got
    the glasses mirror when I was riding at Va Beach - it made me feel a lot
    safer.

    To be sure, you don't even need the gloves in summer, and I only got a pair
    of bike shorts a couple months ago.

    -Badger
    Hell, gear? We don't need no stinkin' gear - ride nekkid.

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