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  1. Well been 3 weeks now. Lost 8 pounds on week 1, 6 pounds on week 2 and 2
    pounds last week.
    Loosing less and less will have to eat less and pedal more πŸ˜‰ But seriously
    first few weeks I know you
    loose a lot of water too, so that's most likelly normal. Now just gotta
    find a way to keep loosing 4 pounds
    per week and I will be happy.

    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the ones
    that spike insulin production. Will
    be hard since I am a pasta and rice guy. Good thing is that I am not a
    potato guy, 95 on the glycemic index
    is insane πŸ˜‰

    How about you guys that were doing the same?

  2. Daniel Crispin said:

    Well been 3 weeks now. Lost 8 pounds on week 1, 6 pounds on week 2
    and 2 pounds last week. Loosing less and less will have to eat less
    and pedal more πŸ˜‰ But seriously first few weeks I know you loose a
    lot of water too, so that's most likely normal. Now just gotta
    find a way to keep loosing 4 pounds per week and I will be happy.

    This sounds hard to me. If yo don't like bicycling and riding in the
    mountains, the exercise becomes just that and wears on you. In the
    long run, riding a bicycle because you love it is a durable hobby and
    it allows you to eat well without counting calories.

    Quoted message said:

    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the
    ones that spike insulin production. Will be hard since I am a pasta
    and rice guy. Good thing is that I am not a potato guy, 95 on the
    glycemic index is insane πŸ˜‰

    Ohhh, it sounds so unpleasant. Maybe you don't have nice mountains,
    forest and seascapes for your rides, but riding for the fun of it is
    more lasting and takes the drudgery out of 'exercising'.

    Quoted message said:

    How about you guys that were doing the same?

    I don't.

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  3. Daniel Crispin said:

    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the ones
    that spike insulin production. Will
    be hard since I am a pasta and rice guy.

    Well, don't cut out the carbs completely, especially from your
    post-workout recovery meal. Recommended intake after a hard workout
    is 70-100 gm of carbs and 20-25 gm of protein. Skip the simple
    sugars, not the complex carbs.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

  4. "Daniel Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well been 3 weeks now. Lost 8 pounds on week 1, 6 pounds on week 2 and 2
    pounds last week.
    Loosing less and less will have to eat less and pedal more πŸ˜‰ But


    seriously

    Quoted message said:

    first few weeks I know you
    loose a lot of water too, so that's most likelly normal. Now just gotta
    find a way to keep loosing 4 pounds
    per week and I will be happy.

    No offense, but you're dreaming. Your goal of losing 4 lbs per week is
    unrealistic. It would require a daily deficit of 2000 calories (1 lb of fat
    = 3500 calories). That means you need to eat 2000 calories less than you
    burn each day. That is a nearly impossible rate of weight loss, and
    potentially unhealthy because it's hard to get sufficient vitamins and
    minerals. It's also hard to exercise with such a large calorie deficit.

    Most authorities recommend a much more modest rate of weight loss - a
    deficit of 500 calories per day is recommended and should result in about 1
    lb per week of weight loss. See
    http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2002/102_fat.html for more info on this.

    Keep up the bike riding, and aim for a modest, sustainable rate of weight
    loss. You didn't gain all that weight in a few months, and you won't lose
    it in a few months either.

    GG
    http://www.WeightWare.com
    Your Weight and Health Diary

    Quoted message said:


    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the ones
    that spike insulin production. Will
    be hard since I am a pasta and rice guy. Good thing is that I am not a
    potato guy, 95 on the glycemic index
    is insane πŸ˜‰

    How about you guys that were doing the same?

  5. Daniel Crispin said:

    Well been 3 weeks now. Lost 8 pounds on week 1, 6 pounds on week 2 and 2
    pounds last week.
    Loosing less and less will have to eat less and pedal more πŸ˜‰ But seriously
    first few weeks I know you
    loose a lot of water too, so that's most likelly normal. Now just gotta
    find a way to keep loosing 4 pounds
    per week and I will be happy.

    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the ones
    that spike insulin production. Will
    be hard since I am a pasta and rice guy. Good thing is that I am not a
    potato guy, 95 on the glycemic index
    is insane πŸ˜‰

    How about you guys that were doing the same?

    I've lost about 2KG just putzing around enjoying the sights here in
    the 10 days or so since I got my new bike. I try to ride 2 times a
    day - once in the morning and once in the evening.

    Right now, we have a typhoon bearing down on us!
    http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V4e/typhoon/news/TYtrace.htm
    I went out for a ride today and I could hardly make headway against
    the high winds. There isn't a cloud in the sky yet and it will be 48
    to 72 more hours before its actually here!

    Michael J. Klein [email hidden]
    Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
    Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
    ---------------------------------------------

  6. Well done on the weight loss, of course you have to remember that as well burning the blubber, your two-wheeled road rocket improves fitness and builds muscles. Muscle is heavy, muscle is good, so you may find you don’t always lose weight. The alternative diets involving denying your body the raw materials to burn fuel, and sitting around waiting for the weight to fall off, are a recipe for bad health, wind and halitosis. Skinny and unfit, does not equal healthy
    Just eat a healthy diet and go for the burn, few things look better than a lean mean pedalling machine.
    So take these words of wisdom from a man who is 40years of age, 100 kg in weight, doing 200+ a week and fit as a butcher’s dog.
    :eek:

    --

  7. Quoted message said:

    No offense, but you're dreaming. Your goal of losing 4 lbs per week is
    unrealistic. It would require a daily deficit of 2000 calories (1 lb of fat
    = 3500 calories). That means you need to eat 2000 calories less than you
    burn each day.

    Quoted message said:

    That is a nearly impossible rate of weight loss, and
    potentially unhealthy because it's hard to get sufficient vitamins and
    minerals. It's also hard to exercise with such a large calorie deficit.

    Quoted message said:

    Most authorities recommend a much more modest rate of weight loss - a
    deficit of 500 calories per day is recommended and should result in about 1
    lb per week of weight loss.

    I agree with this. The lb per week notion is good because that anything
    greater entails a pretty drastic situation that can not be sustained.

    Now, it is possible to lose weight faster. I went on a 2 week tour in the
    Rocky Mountains. It had a about 70 miles daily plus quite a bit of climbing.
    Plus it was a camping situation (at high schools and what not) but when you
    have to put up your tent and tear it down and walk to the showers and so on,
    you get in even more exercise. I figured I could lose some weight on the tour
    so I ate all the carbohydrates I could to replenish my glycogen for the next
    day and I avoided fats and ate a normal amount of protein. I was very
    surprised when I got home and discovered I had lost 10 lbs in 2 weeks and it
    all seemed to have been fat. But you can do that when you are on the bike oh 6
    hours per day and active for another 3 hours or so. People did gain weight on
    the tour by eating massive cheese burgers, fries and sundaes. So it seems no
    matter how much you exercise, you can sabotage it by upping the intake.

  8. "Pbwalther" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    No offense, but you're dreaming. Your goal of losing 4 lbs per week is
    unrealistic. It would require a daily deficit of 2000 calories (1 lb of


    fat

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    = 3500 calories). That means you need to eat 2000 calories less than you
    burn each day.

    Quoted message said:

    That is a nearly impossible rate of weight loss, and
    potentially unhealthy because it's hard to get sufficient vitamins and
    minerals. It's also hard to exercise with such a large calorie deficit.

    Quoted message said:

    Most authorities recommend a much more modest rate of weight loss - a
    deficit of 500 calories per day is recommended and should result in about


    1

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lb per week of weight loss.

    I agree with this. The lb per week notion is good because that anything
    greater entails a pretty drastic situation that can not be sustained.

    Now, it is possible to lose weight faster. I went on a 2 week tour in the
    Rocky Mountains. It had a about 70 miles daily plus quite a bit of


    climbing.

    Quoted message said:

    Plus it was a camping situation (at high schools and what not) but when


    you

    Quoted message said:

    have to put up your tent and tear it down and walk to the showers and so


    on,

    Quoted message said:

    you get in even more exercise. I figured I could lose some weight on the


    tour

    Quoted message said:

    so I ate all the carbohydrates I could to replenish my glycogen for the


    next

    Quoted message said:

    day and I avoided fats and ate a normal amount of protein. I was very
    surprised when I got home and discovered I had lost 10 lbs in 2 weeks and


    it

    Quoted message said:

    all seemed to have been fat. But you can do that when you are on the bike


    oh 6

    Quoted message said:

    hours per day and active for another 3 hours or so. People did gain


    weight on

    Quoted message said:

    the tour by eating massive cheese burgers, fries and sundaes. So it seems


    no

    Quoted message said:

    matter how much you exercise, you can sabotage it by upping the intake.

    Too true. Most exercise burns off a depressingly small number of calories
    With respect to weight loss, the diet component is generally more important
    than the exercise component (with some exceptions like your week-long bike
    tour). It's really easy, especially after exercise, to sabatoge a weight
    loss plan by chowing down on calorie dense foods.

    Once after a century ride I was too lazy to cook and went to Jack in the
    Box. I ordered a healthy-sounding Turkey Pannido sandwich, and a small
    chocolate shake. Later I got curious, and looked them up online...imagine
    my surprise when I found out I had consumed over 1400 calories (most of it
    fat calories)!

    GG

  9. GaryG said:

    "Daniel Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well been 3 weeks now. Lost 8 pounds on week 1, 6 pounds on week 2
    and 2 pounds last week.
    Loosing less and less will have to eat less and pedal more πŸ˜‰ But
    seriously first few weeks I know you
    loose a lot of water too, so that's most likelly normal. Now just
    gotta find a way to keep loosing 4 pounds
    per week and I will be happy.

    No offense, but you're dreaming. Your goal of losing 4 lbs per week
    is unrealistic. It would require a daily deficit of 2000 calories (1
    lb of fat = 3500 calories). That means you need to eat 2000 calories
    less than you burn each day. That is a nearly impossible rate of
    weight loss, and potentially unhealthy because it's hard to get
    sufficient vitamins and minerals. It's also hard to exercise with
    such a large calorie deficit.

    Most authorities recommend a much more modest rate of weight loss - a
    deficit of 500 calories per day is recommended and should result in
    about 1 lb per week of weight loss. See
    http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2002/102_fat.html for more info on
    this.

    Keep up the bike riding, and aim for a modest, sustainable rate of
    weight loss. You didn't gain all that weight in a few months, and
    you won't lose it in a few months either.

    GG
    http://www.WeightWare.com
    Your Weight and Health Diary


    I agree with you, aiming for an unreachable goal makes quitting easier when
    the weight loss isn't being achieved.

    I am in the midst of losing weight. I found myself at 206lbs in March, and
    for my size, I should be more like 170lbs. So I set a goal to drop from 206
    to 180lbs by 31 December, a very realisitc goal. To do so, I need only drop
    approx. 1/2 lb per week.

    Seeing my recommended calorie intake was 2700, and that I was pumping in
    more like 3300 on a bad day, it was easy to knock off 500 calories a day
    from the recommended to set my goal at 2200; gave up a chocolate bar at
    night, dropped the Pepsi for diet Pepsi, and started eating more veggies
    instead of homemade fries.

    I also bike a fair amount, average about 1200-1500 calories burned per ride,
    say 3 times per week. The riding, however, isn't for weight loss, it's
    entertainment, with a good side effect that it also helps lose weight.

    So, my goal is to lose 1lb per week by adjusting my diet and calorie intake,
    and then if I lose another pound by biking, it's a bonus.

    So, since March 1, I've lost 24 pounds, roughly 1.5lbs per week( I do cheat,
    I don't count calories as carefully on weekends, have been known to indulge
    in a 'few' beers now and then, and still make homemade fries when I BBQ a
    good steak!)

    All in all, a realistic goal fairly easier to make, and without turning my
    passion of biking into a mandatory weight loss tool.

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Daniel Crispin writes:

    This sounds hard to me. If yo don't like bicycling and riding in the
    mountains, the exercise becomes just that and wears on you. In the
    long run, riding a bicycle because you love it is a durable hobby and
    it allows you to eat well without counting calories.

    Unfortunatelly I am an Urban rider. There is a lot of nice trails around
    the island
    of Montreal, but only 1 small hill in the middle of the town... I would say
    a 500 feet climb or something
    like it. Maybe I should do that once a week. Last time I did it I was
    exausted at the top, it's a steep climb
    that goes for maybe 3 miles... or something like that.

    Anyways to loose weight you have to do both, only cycling would be too
    slow... I calculated it and it
    would take me 4 times as long.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the
    ones that spike insulin production. Will be hard since I am a pasta
    and rice guy. Good thing is that I am not a potato guy, 95 on the
    glycemic index is insane πŸ˜‰

    Ohhh, it sounds so unpleasant. Maybe you don't have nice mountains,
    forest and seascapes for your rides, but riding for the fun of it is
    more lasting and takes the drudgery out of 'exercising'.

    Quoted message said:

    How about you guys that were doing the same?

    I don't.

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  11. "Terry Morse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Daniel Crispin said:

    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the


    ones

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that spike insulin production. Will
    be hard since I am a pasta and rice guy.

    Well, don't cut out the carbs completely, especially from your
    post-workout recovery meal. Recommended intake after a hard workout
    is 70-100 gm of carbs and 20-25 gm of protein. Skip the simple
    sugars, not the complex carbs.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

    I never take post workout meals as such πŸ˜‰ I just eat my normal meals.
    What do you eat after a workout? A protein shake? Or a real meal?

  12. "GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Daniel Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well been 3 weeks now. Lost 8 pounds on week 1, 6 pounds on week 2 and


    2

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pounds last week.
    Loosing less and less will have to eat less and pedal more πŸ˜‰ But


    seriously

    Quoted message said:

    first few weeks I know you
    loose a lot of water too, so that's most likelly normal. Now just gotta
    find a way to keep loosing 4 pounds
    per week and I will be happy.

    No offense, but you're dreaming. Your goal of losing 4 lbs per week is
    unrealistic. It would require a daily deficit of 2000 calories (1 lb of


    fat

    Quoted message said:

    = 3500 calories). That means you need to eat 2000 calories less than you
    burn each day. That is a nearly impossible rate of weight loss, and
    potentially unhealthy because it's hard to get sufficient vitamins and
    minerals. It's also hard to exercise with such a large calorie deficit.

    Most authorities recommend a much more modest rate of weight loss - a
    deficit of 500 calories per day is recommended and should result in about


    1

    Quoted message said:

    lb per week of weight loss. See
    http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2002/102_fat.html for more info on this.

    Keep up the bike riding, and aim for a modest, sustainable rate of weight
    loss. You didn't gain all that weight in a few months, and you won't lose
    it in a few months either.

    GG
    http://www.WeightWare.com
    Your Weight and Health Diary

    Quoted message said:


    I read a lot about those carbs. I decided to lower my intake of the


    ones

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that spike insulin production. Will
    be hard since I am a pasta and rice guy. Good thing is that I am not a
    potato guy, 95 on the glycemic index
    is insane πŸ˜‰

    How about you guys that were doing the same?

    Well I did loose 8 pounds and 6 pounds on 2 consecutive weeks... I did not
    feel
    tired or sluggish either. My BMR is around 2700 now. If I cycle say 10
    hours per
    week that is about 5000 calories right there. So 1.5 pound lost due to
    excercise. I eat
    around 2000 calories per day now. So that is a deficit of almost 1.5
    pounds. So ok,
    3 pounds per week. I know I will not be able to do that for ever because as
    I lose weight
    my BMR will lower. But still 3 pounds is 3 times what is supposedly
    recommanded.

    Once the first 50 pounds are off, I won't mind loosing at a slower rate.
    Right now I am
    doing all I can to burn the most I can. And as for vitamins, that is why
    supplements exist.

  13. Daniel Crispin said:

    I never take post workout meals as such πŸ˜‰ I just eat my normal meals.
    What do you eat after a workout? A protein shake? Or a real meal?

    I usually make myself a juice drink with protein right after a ride,
    then I'll have some pasta an hour or two later. I try to get at
    least 100 gm of carbs and 25 gm of protein from the two. If I don't
    get enough food within about 3 hours after a ride, my legs feel
    sluggish the next day.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

  14. "Terry Morse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Daniel Crispin said:

    I never take post workout meals as such πŸ˜‰ I just eat my normal meals.
    What do you eat after a workout? A protein shake? Or a real meal?

    I usually make myself a juice drink with protein right after a ride,
    then I'll have some pasta an hour or two later. I try to get at
    least 100 gm of carbs and 25 gm of protein from the two. If I don't
    get enough food within about 3 hours after a ride, my legs feel
    sluggish the next day.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

    Probably why I always have leg pain unless I rest for 2 days after a hard
    ride.

    I will try it next week end, will get a bucket of protein powder and
    eat(drink)
    that after I am back home. 25 Grams is not that much when using powder.
    Not sure it's as good as a real meal like tuna, milk or anything high in
    protein
    though.... I always wonder about the ability of the body to metabolize
    those
    food supplements.

  15. "GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Once after a century ride I was too lazy to cook and went to Jack in the
    Box. I ordered a healthy-sounding Turkey Pannido sandwich, and a small
    chocolate shake. Later I got curious, and looked them up online...imagine
    my surprise when I found out I had consumed over 1400 calories (most of it
    fat calories)!

    There was a recent article in the local paper about how nutritionally bad the
    coffee shop drinks could be, and how unaware many customers were of this. They
    reported one drink at over 800 calories (majority fat), making it the
    equivalent of a double cheeseburger. Many of the pastries are in this range or
    even higher. From the amount of post-ride face stuffing I see, I'd have to
    guess that many rides result in a net caloric gain. Most of these riders seem
    to be of the belief that their riding allows them to eat anything. "Ride to
    eat" is a common outlook. It's not surprising that many of these are
    substantially overweight despite regular, vigorous exercise.

  16. Quoted message said:

    There was a recent article in the local paper about how nutritionally bad the
    coffee shop drinks could be, and how unaware many customers were of this.
    They
    reported one drink at over 800 calories (majority fat), making it the
    equivalent of a double cheeseburger.

    What a coincidence. Our local paper just had a very similar article. I did
    not look at the byline though. The fancier lattes and what not could go over
    600 calories (almost all fat) with no problem at all.

    Quoted message said:

    From the amount of post-ride face stuffing I see, I'd have to
    guess that many rides result in a net caloric gain. Most of these riders seem
    to be of the belief that their riding allows them to eat anything.

    Quoted message said:

    "Ride to
    eat" is a common outlook. It's not surprising that many of these are
    substantially overweight despite regular, vigorous exercise.

    Quite right. One CAN lose weight primarily by exercising and being careful not
    to sabotage oneself with poor diet choices. Even pretty vigorous exercise
    burns up only about 1000 calories per hour so it takes 3.5 hours to burn a lb
    of fat and that is assuming everything burned was fat. It is also
    drepressingly easy to consume nearly astronomical amounts of calories in a very
    short period of time. I one has to do is to look up the caloric content of
    most large meals at fast food restaurants.

  17. Matt Woodthorpe said:

    Well done on the weight loss, of course you have to remember that as well burning the blubber, your two-wheeled road rocket improves fitness and builds muscles. Muscle is heavy, muscle is good, so you may find you don’t always lose weight. The alternative diets involving denying your body the raw materials to burn fuel, and sitting around waiting for the weight to fall off, are a recipe for bad health, wind and halitosis. Skinny and unfit, does not equal healthy
    Just eat a healthy diet and go for the burn, few things look better than a lean mean pedalling machine.
    So take these words of wisdom from a man who is 40years of age, 100 kg in weight, doing 200+ a week and fit as a butcher’s dog.
    :eek:

    good points πŸ™‚

    Michael J. Klein [email hidden]
    Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
    Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
    ---------------------------------------------

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