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    Kokomo Juggler
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    I got a new Coker this year. It came with a Viscount saddle. I have an older
    saddle from a Tom Miller made 20" uni, which I've been using instead. It has
    a metal base, a piece of foam, and a flexible cover.

    I've experimented with all kinds of combinations.
    I removed the foam and replaced with an innertube.
    I put the innertube on top of the foam.
    I put the innertube under the foam.
    I bent the front part of the seat down to give more room for my testicles.
    I got some softer foam from some packing material.
    I bent the front part down even more.

    Now I seem to have solved the testicle problem, but now I have a lot of
    pressure on 2 pieces of my pelvis. That seems to be where all the weight is.
    I'm wondering if it would help to cut holes in the foam where these bones
    rest. I also wonder if a wider seat would help distribute the weight better.

    I'm really envious of those of you that go for long rides. I can only go
    about 4 miles at a time due to saddle discomfort.

    Any advice?

    Thanks!

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  2. johnfoss
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    Sounds like you replaced your Viscount with a Schwinn/Semcycle seat. The
    Viscounts were designed to replace those. I find both to be about equal
    in the comfort department, depending on quality of the foam. Neither is
    a great comfort design for me personally, but seat comfort is a very
    personal thing.

    1. If you're not wearing cycling shorts, you're torturing yourself for
    no reason. Invest in a decent pair and you'll find they make a world of
    difference.

    2. You can experiment with the shape of the foam to try to improve
    comfort. You don't want to lower the part where your sit bones are,
    though. That's the weight-bearing area. I did a little experimenting
    years ago, and put a pair of ridges where the sit bones go, and cut a
    channel in the foam down the center where your soft tissues and nerves
    go. That was an improvement over the basic Miyata seat.

    3. But today I prefer either a KH/Velo seat off the shelf, or a Miyata
    seat with air. The Miyata air has the edge on comfort, but the KH is
    easier to set up.

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  3. Sofa
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    3. But today I prefer either a KH/Velo seat off the shelf, or a Miyata
    seat with air. The Miyata air has the edge on comfort, but the KH is
    easier to set up. *

    And a velo with air is the ultimate in everything

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    Sofa said:

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    And a velo with air is the ultimate in everything *

    Except setup time and strength. Unless you use the CF base.

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  5. Kokomo Juggler
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    Sounds like you replaced your Viscount with a Schwinn/Semcycle seat. The
    Viscounts were designed to replace those. I find both to be about equal
    in the comfort department, depending on quality of the foam. Neither is
    a great comfort design for me personally, but seat comfort is a very
    personal thing.


    Yes, I replaced the seat. I started tearing apart the Viscount, and saw it
    was glued together, and figured it would be difficult to put back together
    and experiment.

    Quoted message said:


    1. If you're not wearing cycling shorts, you're torturing yourself for
    no reason. Invest in a decent pair and you'll find they make a world of
    difference.


    Yes I have cycling shorts with chamous. They are 30 years old, from when I
    used to bicycle a lot.

    Quoted message said:


    2. You can experiment with the shape of the foam to try to improve
    comfort. You don't want to lower the part where your sit bones are,
    though. That's the weight-bearing area. I did a little experimenting
    years ago, and put a pair of ridges where the sit bones go, and cut a
    channel in the foam down the center where your soft tissues and nerves
    go. That was an improvement over the basic Miyata seat.


    Thanks.

    Quoted message said:

    3. But today I prefer either a KH/Velo seat off the shelf, or a Miyata
    seat with air. The Miyata air has the edge on comfort, but the KH is
    easier to set up.


    I got sticker shock when I saw the price of a KH seat. ($90)

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  6. johnfoss
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    Kokomo Juggler said:

    *Yes I have cycling shorts with chamous. They are 30 years old, from
    when I used to bicycle a lot.*


    I'm not an expert on 30 year old shorts, but they may be past their best
    days. I notice today's shorts use all sorts of synthetic materials, but
    I haven't noticed any natural chamois in a long time. Try a more recent
    pair. If you ride a lot, you'll need multiple pairs anyway.

    Quoted message said:

    *I got sticker shock when I saw the price of a KH seat. *


    KH seats are $48 from Unicycle.com. Were you referring to a pre-built
    air seat ($99 or so)?

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  7. TheObieOne3226
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    Quoted message said:

    I got a new Coker this year. It came with a Viscount saddle.

    Tim converted his viscount to an amazingly simple and comfortable seat.
    It gives a lot of support all over and is really soft. He did the LBI
    unithon (19 miles) on it without any trouble.

    What he did was take all the foam off his viscount. Then he bought a
    12'' innertube. He then sewed a cover that would fit rather loosely over
    the seat, drilled the seat for a stem and put the tube inside the cover.

    As I said before, the seat is extremely comfortable. My only concern is
    durability.

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