It was Tugboat - Tyler Tunes.

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just as I said, Tyler said Tugboats death made him withdraw.
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Coming off of the emotional stress of losing Tugboat, the disappointment

of

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abandoning the Tour is in perspective. I know there will be another Tour

de

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France next year. And I'm already looking forward to it.

I'll be back with more thoughts about the Tour in the coming days. And I
will also share some of my stories about my final days and experiences

with

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Tugboat as well.

Thanks for your support and thanks for reading.

How sad that the man with such an enormous heart had his broken at such an
unfortunate time. I can understand how that would be very draining.

Interesting that, though his back looked like he'd been flogged, it was
heartache that took him out.

Bob C.

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Just as I said, Tyler said Tugboats death made him withdraw.
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We don't seem to be reading the same thing. Explain to me please where
Tyler says the death of his dog "made him withdraw"? He repeated at least
twice on French TV that the "dog" issue had nothing to do with his
abandoning. As a matter of fact, he said he tried to keep the whole thing
private.

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Coming off of the emotional stress of losing Tugboat, the disappointment

of

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abandoning the Tour is in perspective. I know there will be another Tour

de

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France next year. And I'm already looking forward to it.

I'll be back with more thoughts about the Tour in the coming days. And I
will also share some of my stories about my final days and experiences

with

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Tugboat as well.

Thanks for your support and thanks for reading.

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Just as I said, Tyler said Tugboats death made him withdraw.
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We don't seem to be reading the same thing. Explain to me please where
Tyler says the death of his dog "made him withdraw"? He repeated at

least

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twice on French TV that the "dog" issue had nothing to do with his
abandoning. As a matter of fact, he said he tried to keep the whole thing
private.

Are you trying to tell me that Tugboats passing, was no different than
some roadkill on the side of the road? The back was the ruse, and you fell
for it.

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Just as I said, Tyler said Tugboats death made him withdraw.
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We don't seem to be reading the same thing. Explain to me please

where

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Tyler says the death of his dog "made him withdraw"? He repeated at

least

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twice on French TV that the "dog" issue had nothing to do with his
abandoning. As a matter of fact, he said he tried to keep the whole

thing

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private.

Are you trying to tell me that Tugboats passing, was no different than
some roadkill on the side of the road? The back was the ruse, and you

fell

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for it.

Yes, I'm telling you that "Tugboats passing was no different than some
roadkill on the side of the road". He might just as well as ended up that
way as having to be put to sleep. The "emotional stress" that Tyler
mentions would have been the same. But it wouldn't have kept him from
finishing the Tour. The point being, he could keep pedalling with a heavy
heart but not with a strained back. He acknowledged as much when he talks
about being able to keep some perspective, the difference BETWEEN the
"emotional stress" and the disappointment of abandoning. Nowhere does he
say the former forced him to stop. I heard him say twice on TV that his dog
dying wasn't the reason. Good enough for this rube.

This is reminiscent of Pedro Delgado's withdrawl in 86 after learning
about his mother's death. The emotional stress caused by the loss of
a loved one (animal or human) can drain you physically as well as
mentally and emotionally. I doubt if he got much sleep the nights
before his withdrawl.

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Just as I said, Tyler said Tugboats death made him withdraw.
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Coming off of the emotional stress of losing Tugboat, the disappointment of
abandoning the Tour is in perspective. I know there will be another Tour de
France next year. And I'm already looking forward to it.

I'll be back with more thoughts about the Tour in the coming days. And I
will also share some of my stories about my final days and experiences with
Tugboat as well.

Thanks for your support and thanks for reading.

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This is reminiscent of Pedro Delgado's withdrawl in 86 after learning
about his mother's death. The emotional stress caused by the loss of
a loved one (animal or human) can drain you physically as well as
mentally and emotionally. I doubt if he got much sleep the nights
before his withdrawl.

How can you compare someone losing their mother to the death of a dog? To
be truly reminiscent, Pedro would have had to take his mother to the vet and
put her down.

"TM" wrote...

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"John S" wrote...

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This is reminiscent of Pedro Delgado's withdrawl in 86 after learning
about his mother's death. The emotional stress caused by the loss of
a loved one (animal or human) can drain you physically as well as
mentally and emotionally. I doubt if he got much sleep the nights
before his withdrawl.

How can you compare someone losing their mother to the death of a dog? To
be truly reminiscent, Pedro would have had to take his mother to the vet

and

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put her down.

Or Dave H would have to kiss Kristen or Sheryl.

JF

"Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just as I said, Tyler said Tugboats death made him withdraw.
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Coming off of the emotional stress of losing Tugboat, the disappointment

of

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abandoning the Tour is in perspective. I know there will be another Tour

de

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France next year. And I'm already looking forward to it.

I'll be back with more thoughts about the Tour in the coming days. And I
will also share some of my stories about my final days and experiences

with

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Tugboat as well.

Thanks for your support and thanks for reading.

Like I said, you are truly an ass. Why do you feel the need to exploit
Tyler's personal loss, when you know damn well (unless you are also a
complete moron- very possible) that 90% of the article is about his stage 6
crash and the injuries sustained, and that this was the ONLY reason for
abandoning. I'm sure losing his buddy was extremely hard on him, but we all
know Tyler is tougher than that.

Here's the rest of the story...
http://www.velonews.com/tour2004/diaries/articles/6609.0.html

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Dude,
A loss is a loss. If you love your dog as Tyler obviously did and
considered him as a child, it can be as hard as losing your mother.
If your mother abused you and treated you like garbage, then maybe you
wouldn't hurt as much over her loss. Just because Pedro's mother is
"human" and Tyler's dog is an "animal" doesn't make it any more or
less painful.

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This is reminiscent of Pedro Delgado's withdrawl in 86 after learning
about his mother's death. The emotional stress caused by the loss of
a loved one (animal or human) can drain you physically as well as
mentally and emotionally. I doubt if he got much sleep the nights
before his withdrawl.

How can you compare someone losing their mother to the death of a dog? To
be truly reminiscent, Pedro would have had to take his mother to the vet and
put her down.

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"TM" wrote...

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"John S" wrote...

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This is reminiscent of Pedro Delgado's withdrawl in 86 after learning
about his mother's death. The emotional stress caused by the loss of
a loved one (animal or human) can drain you physically as well as
mentally and emotionally. I doubt if he got much sleep the nights
before his withdrawl.

How can you compare someone losing their mother to the death of a dog?

To

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be truly reminiscent, Pedro would have had to take his mother to the vet

and

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put her down.

Or Dave H would have to kiss Kristen or Sheryl.

JF

Sheryl any day, but I ain't kissing Lance's mom
Dave

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Dude,
A loss is a loss. If you love your dog as Tyler obviously did and
considered him as a child, it can be as hard as losing your mother.
If your mother abused you and treated you like garbage, then maybe you
wouldn't hurt as much over her loss. Just because Pedro's mother is
"human" and Tyler's dog is an "animal" doesn't make it any more or
less painful.

Nipplehead
I would like to think that a professional getting paid, what? say 1mil a
year could deal with the death of his dog now matter how big "a part of the
family the dog was" I would hope his back injuries took him out and not the
old dog
Dave

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Dude,
A loss is a loss. If you love your dog as Tyler obviously did and
considered him as a child, it can be as hard as losing your mother.
If your mother abused you and treated you like garbage, then maybe you
wouldn't hurt as much over her loss. Just because Pedro's mother is
"human" and Tyler's dog is an "animal" doesn't make it any more or
less painful.

Wait and see for yourself.