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  1. Having spent 6 months learning to unicycle on my faithful 20" Nimbus II
    I decided it was time to move up to a muni. My Nibus was great fun ๐Ÿ˜„
    and I still have plenty of use for it as I try to improve my unicycling
    skills, but frequent off road excursions required something that could
    better handle the muddy slopes.

    After some research and a lot of advice I decided on a 24" Onza. The
    order went in to Unicycle.UK.com and last Thursday and the following day
    it arrived. ๐Ÿ™‚ It looked serious piece of kit and I couldn't wait to
    start riding it, but weekend commitments afforded me little time for
    practice. The couple of short rides I did try gave me quite a shock, I
    couldn't believe how different it felt to my old Nimbus, the long
    cranks, larger wheel and soft fat tyre made me feel like a begineer
    agian. But some practice Monday and Tuesday lunchtime started to give
    me confidence and I was itching to progress. Then Tuesday evening
    happened!!! :o

    Keen to improve I went out for a ride round the local park. All started
    well with me slowly gaining confidence to tackle steeper and longer
    slopes. Then as I was thinking what to try next without warning I
    slipped backwards, the seat popped up in front of me and as I fell the
    left pedal bit in to my leg. ๐Ÿ™„

    [image: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robertbune/images/onza-scar.jpg]

    After 4 hours in A&E I now have 6 stiches in my left calf. The staff
    found it very amusing with one nurse asking if I was attacked by a
    lion.

    The question now is do I change the pedals, buy leg guards or both? I
    would be interested to know what other riders think of the Onza
    pedals.

    Oh well I have a week to decide what to do while I wait for the wound to
    heal and the stiches to be removed.

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  2. Leg armor.

    -mg

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  3. I would buy leg guards. From the looks of your leg, those pedals are
    keepers.

    mike

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  4. Get leg guards and you won't regret it.

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  5. Definately buy some leg guards. I highly recommend 661 4x4's, they WILL
    save your shins. I agree with onetrack, judging from your scars, those
    pedals are keepers!!!!!!!!!

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  6. do 661 4x4s cover your entire leg, or just your shin? im sorta looking
    for protection for my calves...they get beat up more than my shins. if i
    only needed protection for my shins i could just use my soccer shin
    guards. any suggestions for ones that go "all around" my leg?

    -grant

    sorry for thread jacking

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  7. leg armor, duh. i have fox 911 knee/shin guards, nothing ever will fully
    protect the calf, but the fox 911's have the thickest material in the
    back. it will save you from a puncture just like the 661s.

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  8. http://www.vsportgroup.com/gear/pads_veggieshin.html

    http://www.vsportgroup.com/gear/pads_4x4.html

    http://tinyurl.com/4dspq

    i wonder which of the three provides best protection around the entire
    leg? the veggieshin looks better than the 911 you suggested but its hard
    to tell...i wonder if anyone knows from experience

    -grant

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  9. First off Clanger... Major Props for the great photo. Unlike other
    recent threads with this same issue, you actually provided the photo we
    all wanted to see! Personally I think you should continue w/o the
    guards and provide us with many more great pictures. I gave the same
    advice to Chirokid. I think pads are a waste of money. I told him to
    use that money for a digital camera. SInce you get free healthcare over
    there you are much better off financially just getting stitches as you
    need them. I have to pay $75 for an emergency room visit, so the pads
    were a better deal for me. If I could get free stitches though, I
    wouldn't have bought any pads.

    Grant, the second link is the pads I have. They do cover the back of
    the leg with a tough mesh material. I have yet to get clawed through
    them. I have been bruised through them, but they are just enough to
    prevent most skin perferations. If the KH pads were available, I would
    prefer them. Unfortunately they aren't. The 661's do the job though
    just fine.

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  10. I've been using the 661 veggies for about 6 months now and they are
    excellent stopping any cuts/scratches and most bruises - although in
    very hot conditions they can be a bit on the warm side(not that here in
    the UK very hot conditions are a real problem) The fact that you can
    wear them with seperate from the knee pads if required and they're fine
    for putting through the washing machine as well made them a winner for
    me - so definitely get some shin guards as they stop a whole world of
    pain and i have found the veggies excellent

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  11. bugman said:

    *First off Clanger... Major Props for the great photo. Unlike other
    recent threads with this same issue, you actually provided the photo
    we all wanted to see! Personally I think you should continue w/o the
    guards and provide us with many more great pictures. I gave the same
    advice to Chirokid. I think pads are a waste of money. I told him to
    use that money for a digital camera. SInce you get free healthcare
    over there you are much better off financially just getting stitches
    as you need them. I have to pay $75 for an emergency room visit, so
    the pads were a better deal for me. If I could get free stitches
    though, I wouldn't have bought any pads.*

    Thanks for the advice Bugman, I know from previous threads how much my
    fellow unicyclist value photographic evidence. I can only assume that
    this is because we all want to understand the dangers so we can make the
    sport safer, or perhaps we are just sickos wanting to see some gory
    pics.

    However, your analysis of the pads versus free health care misses out a
    few important points. Service at UK hospitals is far from rapid, I had
    to wait 2 hours to get my injury looked at and then it was a further 2
    hours before they had stitched me up and said I could go home. Although
    I believe that the more spectacular the injury the faster the service,
    so perhaps I was not trying hard enough. The real problem though is
    that now I have to rest my leg while the wound heals, so no more
    unicycling for a week, this is a major blow to a newbie like me who
    needs to keep practicing.

    I will definately be investing in some body armour, up till now all I
    have only been using my roller blade wrist guards, and that was only
    after a backwards fall which injured damaged some tendons. The 661 gear
    looks pretty good and not too expensive. I am sure the 4x4 knee/shin
    pad would have saved me, not so sure about the Veggie.

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  12. I just bought an Onza Muni and wimped out on the pedals after seeing
    someone elses calf. Leg armour seems to be the only way to stay out of
    accident and emergency.

    661 4*4 seem to be a common recomendation especially as the Kris Holm
    guards seem to be unavailable. Has anyone tried the Fox Racing
    Northshore http://tinyurl.com/4n2y2 they appear to be a similar design
    to KH and use balistic nylon.

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  13. I use the 661 Veggies and I love them! I also have a pair of 661
    shin/knees (not the 4x4s) and I use the Veggies way more. There are some
    gaps on the calf, but whenever I've got caught, it's only been minor and
    the material stopped the pins going too far. They're quite slim as well
    so can fit under loose fitting trousers etc. Well worth the buy!
    'Chainreactioncycles' (http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/) is a great
    site for these things and has free delivery within the UK which is
    always a bonus.

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  14. Pedals with the pins are very good idea don't remove them you have
    better grip. esspecialy when in the wet wether ๐Ÿ™‚ I have 4x4 knee/shin
    and there are very good. till now saved my legs two times. and another
    think if you have only the protection on the knee it always goes of the
    leg end slip down and its difficult to keep it on the place.... when you
    have something like 4x4 you dont have that problem it's always on the
    place...

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  15. Pinned pedals are good, especially in combination with leg armour, but
    the onza pedals are a bit silly. They have very long pins, so you get
    great grip, but seeing as your foot only goes on the top of the pin, I
    think you get a lot of extra gougeabiltity without any more grip than
    other pinned pedals. It's probably not worth buying new pedals now, but
    when the current pedals need replacing look at a set with smaller pins
    (like the platform pedals sold by uni.com)

    John

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  16. I've noticed a difference in grip between the Azonic A-Frames and pedals
    with short pins. Sometimes difficult to adjust your feet on the fly
    though!

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  17. For a cheap alternative, you can wear many soccer shin pads backwards
    :-) Your shins won't be protected but the calves will be.

    I've found most people tend to favour bashing either their shins OR
    their calves. Shindentations hurt more, but calf tracks can result in
    meatier looking injuries. I am a calf tracker so it was important to me
    to find full surround leg armour.

    Note many brands have only a light covering around the calf area. This
    may actually be all you need as the calf muscles can cushion a blow, and
    the material will help prevent the cat scratch effect. I wasn't willing
    to risk this so went for a brand that has a full wrap around material
    with cushioning on the calf.

    I have Azonic leg armour which is full neoprene wrap around with hard
    plastic shell over the knee and shin. It is extremely hot to wear
    (thick wetsuit) but has saved my legs many times.

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  18. Congradulations on your first calf-shredding. my third is healing
    nicely. you can get some sixsixone 4x4's, they'll protect against every
    lower leg injury (except inner knee frame hits.) otherwise, don't worry.
    i've been hit in the shin so many time's i've developed a tolerance.
    Unicycling is worth it, though

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  19. Some good advice about shin/knee pads, but which are longest? I am 6ft
    4, and don't want to find my new protection stops too short of my feet.

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  20. peter.bier said:

    *For a cheap alternative, you can wear many soccer shin pads backwards
    :-) Your shins won't be protected but the calves will be.

    I've found most people tend to favour bashing either their shins OR
    their calves. *

    I wear 661 4x4 + kick-boxing padding over them to protect backwards
    this works very fine
    I strap the back padding very low so as to protect my Achile's tendon
    (which I broke with my KH saddle handle).

    the overall look is not bad (the kick-boxing padding is red!)
    (I just look like an eskimo going into a medieval war:p )

    bear

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