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  1. You've probably seen similar messages before but I can't find the
    advice I'm after in any archive.

    My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    old daughters but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for a
    seat on the back or a trailer.

    Can anyone tell me from experience which is the best/safest way to
    carry my 21 month old daughter. She weichs approx 28 - 30 lbs

    We live in a rural location between Brighton and London, therefore
    busy main roads and narrow country lanes. It's also pretty hilly
    immediately around us. Any ideas would be gratefully received.

    Regards

    Mike Turner

    email [email hidden] removing the words "no chopped
    ham" from the address. Keep Britain Spam Free!

  2. doctormick said:

    My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    old daughters

    Got one of those :-)

    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/web/public.nsf/Documents/me-n-u2

    Quoted message said:

    but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for a
    seat on the back or a trailer.

    I never found seats terribly satisfactory. A trailer lasts until they are
    bigger and has other uses. Or you can get a trailer bike with a mounting
    for a child seat, whicih then turns into a pedalling-type trailer bike
    later.

    Best is a tricky one, though, since everybody's experience seems to eb
    different.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
    University

  3. doctormick said:

    My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    old daughters but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for a
    seat on the back or a trailer.

    VeloVision issue 13 has a buyer's guide for family cycling and goes into
    a little detail on numerous options. You can order a copy from
    http://www.velovision.co.uk/

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  4. On 4 Aug 2004 04:10:04 -0700, [email hidden] (doctormick) wrote:

    ..You've probably seen similar messages before but I can't find the
    ..advice I'm after in any archive.
    ..
    ..My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    ..old daughters but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    ..daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for a
    ..seat on the back or a trailer.
    ..
    ..Can anyone tell me from experience which is the best/safest way to
    ..carry my 21 month old daughter. She weichs approx 28 - 30 lbs
    ..
    ..We live in a rural location between Brighton and London, therefore
    ..busy main roads and narrow country lanes. It's also pretty hilly
    ..immediately around us. Any ideas would be gratefully received.
    ..
    ..Regards
    ..
    ..Mike Turner

    You have no business subjecting a child to that danger and air pollution! I sure
    hope you don't take her where there are smokers....
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  5. doctormick said:

    You've probably seen similar messages before but I can't find the
    advice I'm after in any archive.

    My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    old daughters but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for a
    seat on the back or a trailer.

    Can anyone tell me from experience which is the best/safest way to
    carry my 21 month old daughter. She weichs approx 28 - 30 lbs

    We live in a rural location between Brighton and London, therefore
    busy main roads and narrow country lanes. It's also pretty hilly
    immediately around us. Any ideas would be gratefully received.

    Regards

    frame mounted rear seats will really throw your balance off, go for the
    trailer.

    penny

  6. "pas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    frame mounted rear seats will really throw your balance off, go for the
    trailer.

    penny

    Plus you can stuff the trailer with lots of toys!!

    Cheers,
    Alvin Liau

  7. doctormick said:

    You've probably seen similar messages before but I can't find the
    advice I'm after in any archive.

    My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    old daughters but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for a
    seat on the back or a trailer.

    Can anyone tell me from experience which is the best/safest way to
    carry my 21 month old daughter. She weichs approx 28 - 30 lbs

    We live in a rural location between Brighton and London, therefore
    busy main roads and narrow country lanes. It's also pretty hilly
    immediately around us. Any ideas would be gratefully received.

    Regards

    Mike Turner

    email [email hidden] removing the words "no chopped
    ham" from the address. Keep Britain Spam Free!

    I have a Trek Rocket trailer for my son and I'm very happy with it. Pretty
    good aerodynamics, seems to roll well, and it's easy to attach and detach
    from the bike. My wife and I each have a mount on our town bikes for quick
    trailer swapping. It also converts into a jogger which I don't use much, but
    is nice when we need a jogger.

    Matt

  8. Abdominal internally. Hands and arms externally.

    Bill "HTH" S.

  9. S o r n i said:

    Abdominal internally. Hands and arms externally.


    AIUI at 21 months, they're external. ICBW

    A

  10. Mike Vandeman said:

    On 4 Aug 2004 04:10:04 -0700, [email hidden] (doctormick)
    wrote:

    .You've probably seen similar messages before but I can't find the
    .advice I'm after in any archive.
    .
    .My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    .old daughters but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    .daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for
    a .seat on the back or a trailer.
    .
    .Can anyone tell me from experience which is the best/safest way to
    .carry my 21 month old daughter. She weichs approx 28 - 30 lbs
    .
    .We live in a rural location between Brighton and London, therefore
    .busy main roads and narrow country lanes. It's also pretty hilly
    .immediately around us. Any ideas would be gratefully received.
    .
    .Regards
    .
    .Mike Turner

    You have no business subjecting a child to that danger and air
    pollution! I sure hope you don't take her where there are smokers....

    Indeed. Lock the little [censored] inside all day and make sure they get
    plenty of telly. That way the peeeedos won't get them and they won't get run
    over.

  11. Reply to Doki

    Quoted message said:

    Mike V*ndem*n wrote:

    Did he? The bozo bin is working, I see. ;-)

    --
    Mark, UK.
    We hope to hear him swear, we love to hear him squeak,
    We like to see him biting fingers in his horny beak.

  12. I had a bike seat until my lad was three and a bit, and then I got a trail-a-bike. Apart from the obvious thing of being bigger and able to physically manage the trail-a-bike better, he enjoys it more because of the distance between himself and me means he can look around more, and is not strapped into a small seat looking at the small of my back constantly, and feeling like he was perched up high. Because of that alone, I would recommend a trailer over a bike seat.

  13. (doctormick) said:

    Can anyone tell me from experience which is the best/safest way to
    carry my 21 month old daughter. She weichs approx 28 - 30 lbs

    A trailer.

  14. doctormick said:

    You've probably seen similar messages before but I can't find the
    advice I'm after in any archive.

    My wife wants to buy a bike to go cycling with my ten and seven year
    old daughters but also want to be able to take my 21 month old
    daughter with her. However we can't decide whether she should go for a
    seat on the back or a trailer.

    Can anyone tell me from experience which is the best/safest way to
    carry my 21 month old daughter. She weichs approx 28 - 30 lbs

    We live in a rural location between Brighton and London, therefore
    busy main roads and narrow country lanes. It's also pretty hilly
    immediately around us. Any ideas would be gratefully received.

    Regards

    Mike Turner

    Sorry, just sold my trailer last week. :-)
    I like trailers much more than the seats. See Penny's post. Around
    here (Salida, CO-Mtn town in southerrn Colorado), you'll see lots of
    mountain bikes pulling a trailercycle (Tag-A-Long etc) with the 4-8 year
    old riding it, and the trailer with the baby attached to that. We
    thought of doing that with our tandem, but figured that my daughter
    would be in the next time zone, so gave it a pass.

    Shawn

  15. S o r n i said:

    Abdominal internally. Hands and arms externally.

    Bill "HTH" S.


    Bill are you getting tutored in posting style by Crazy?

  16. scurry said:
    S o r n i said:

    Abdominal internally. Hands and arms externally.

    Bill "HTH" S.


    Bill are you getting tutored in posting style by Crazy?

    Jeez, between you and Monique, EVERYBODY'S PICKING ON ME!

    Bill "where's Lucy with the football?" S.

  17. I've been using a copilot limo baby seat with my 2.5 year old. He totally loves it and it's very manageable handling wise on a specialized sirrus elite. I've no experience with trailers or trail-a-bikes though.

  18. http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/misc/babyseat.jpg

    here's how they do it in some countries. We built one like this ourselves
    for around town, it's actually much more stable than over the back wheel as
    the CG doesn't change a whole lot and the kid is inside your arms. I'd
    still go with a trailer for off road.

    penny

  19. In rec.bicycles.misc S o r n i said:

    Jeez, between you and Monique, EVERYBODY'S PICKING ON ME!

    i've been consciously holding back, fwiw. i'll be back when there's a
    lull.
    --
    david reuteler
    [email hidden]

  20. JohnB said:
    pas said:


    http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/misc/babyseat.jpg

    here's how they do it in some countries. We built one like this
    ourselves for around town, it's actually much more stable than over
    the back wheel as the CG doesn't change a whole lot and the kid is
    inside your arms.

    I've never liked this kind of arrangement as it places the child at
    some risk in the case of an emergency or sudden stop. At least the
    example you show has a rigid back that should help prevent the adult
    crushing into the child. the worst are those clamp on saddles that go
    on the top tube with two foot supports attached to the down tube.
    However I don't like the idea of the child being flung forward onto
    the handlebar clutter or worse, which even with strapping is possible
    with some arrangements. At least if they are on the back they have a
    soft back to knock into.

    John B

    trust me, it's much more stable than the baby on the back of the bike.
    After all, three million third world cyclists building them at home can't be
    wrong!! The one we built had a little seat on the top tube, foot rest and
    no back the kid just held onto the handlebars. I don't know about trails but
    it was great for the bike path

    The rear tyre thing is just - bad. You have to remember to compensate for
    the weight of the kid everytime you stop. The kids' weight, and you could be
    riding with an extra 30# back there, will really throw you off even if you
    have to swerve. If you are really worried about "risk of emergency stop"
    or a kid being flung around, perhaps you should not take your baby out at
    all... there's going to be risk no matter what.

    penny

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