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  1. Original post
    rick
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    Just a few word for the one wondering if they should buy those bike.My
    answer is yes.

    I bought mine over one month ago Schwinn Sierra and I am fully satisfied, so
    satisfied that I am riding everyday, and that by itslef is unbelievable.

    I agree that it is maybe not the best quality, but if that is enough to make
    you start excersizing again go for it.

    I'm pretty sure they will last but only with good maintenance, and if not ?
    so be it I will ditch it.

    Specialist, you will probably laugh at the spec below, but for now its
    sufficient .

    MSRP: $299.99
    Year: 2004

    Features:
    TIG-welded N'Litened 26" custom drawn frame is light and strong.
    Full braze-on mounts for accessories provided.

    SRAM 21-speed 4.0 with 4.0 Pro rotational shifter with Schwinn
    AutoPilot ergonomic grips provide superior comfort with our without gloves.

    SuperSoft mattress saddle mounted on a suspension seatpost gives
    2-stage progressive comfort and shock absorption.

    Specifications:

    Size(s) Men's: Sm (15"😉 Med (17"😉 Lrg (19"😉 XL (21"😉
    Women's: Sm (15"😉 Med (18"😉
    Color(s) Available in both Pearl Silver w/ Pearl Mirror Blue or
    Pearl Silver w/ Cabernet
    Frame Schwinn Custom Drawn 'N'Litened' Gold Label aluminum with
    Schwinn comfort geometry, removable derailleur hanger, rack and WB bosses
    Fork RST CT COM C4 One piece alloy lowers, coil spring / 50mm
    travel, mini-boots
    Crankset SR/Suntour XCC-100, 48T,38T,28T w/ chainguard (improved
    shifting for 2004)
    Bottom Bracket VP Semi-Cartridge 68mm w/ 3SB axle
    Pedals Nylon dual-compound comfort pedal
    Front Derailleur Shimano C-051 31.8 top pull men's, 31.8 down
    pull women's
    Rear Derailleur SRAM ESP 4.0
    Shifters SRAM ESP 4.0 Pro 21-speed w/ proprietary Schwinn Auto
    Pilot ergonomic shift cover
    Freewheel Shimano MegaRange 7-speed freewheel 13-34
    Chain UG-50
    Rims Alex Y2000 single wall anodized
    Tires 26" x 1.9" smooth rolling Auto Pilot all weather Touring
    Front Hub Formula sealed alloy w/ alloy QR
    Rear Hub Formula sealed alloy threaded w/ alloy QR
    Spokes Stainless steel 14 gauge
    Nipples CP Brass
    Front Brake Tektro alloy linear pull w/ linear spring, power
    modulator & Multi-Condition pads.
    Rear Brake Tektro alloy linear pull w/ linear spring, and
    Multi-Condition pads
    Brake Levers Tektro alloy composite 3-finger w/ reach adjust and
    Krayton insert
    Handlebar Hi-Ten steel, 50mm rise, 24 degree bend, 620mm wide
    Stem Alloy adjustable, 55 degree movement w/ 180mm quill
    insertion and front-load cap, sized to frame
    Grips Schwinn Auto Pilot ergonomic
    Headset 1 1/8" sealed
    Saddle Schwinn Super Soft w/ dual density base and coil spring
    suspension
    Seat Post Alloy suspension with micro adjust head, pre-load
    adjust w/ 35mm travel 26.8 x 330mm
    Seat Clamp Alloy clamp and QR

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  2. gooserider
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    "rick" <rick @ nowhere.com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Just a few word for the one wondering if they should buy those bike.My
    answer is yes.


    If you bought your Schwinn at a bike shop, it's not even close in quality to
    what's available at WalMart. A bike shop entry level Schwinn is comparable
    to any other entry level bike shop bikes, be it Trek, Giant,
    Cannondale(well, maybe not Cannondale).

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  3. Mark Weaver
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    "gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "rick" <rick @ nowhere.com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Just a few word for the one wondering if they should buy those bike.My
    answer is yes.


    If you bought your Schwinn at a bike shop, it's not even close in quality


    to

    Quoted message said:

    what's available at WalMart. A bike shop entry level Schwinn is comparable
    to any other entry level bike shop bikes, be it Trek, Giant,
    Cannondale(well, maybe not Cannondale).

    Check the components. My wife's Walmart Schwinn from last year has the
    same, or slightly better components than my daughter's low-end LBS bike
    bought a year earlier--read derailleur is up one step in the Shimano
    food-chain over the LBS bike, the front fork is also one notch up (same
    brand but cast alum parts instead of painted steel). Same with the brakes.
    The Schwinn also has two sets of braze-ons vs one on my daughter's bike and
    a threadless rather than threaded headset. The one exception to that rule
    is that the Schwinn has a quick release front wheel only. Overall, though,
    I think the Schwinn was a heck of a deal for $149. The main downside is no
    free LBS tune-ups -- you have to do that yourself (which I don't really
    mind).

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  4. the black rose
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    gooserider said:

    "rick" <rick @ nowhere.com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Just a few word for the one wondering if they should buy those bike.My
    answer is yes.

    If you bought your Schwinn at a bike shop, it's not even close in quality to
    what's available at WalMart. A bike shop entry level Schwinn is comparable
    to any other entry level bike shop bikes, be it Trek, Giant,
    Cannondale(well, maybe not Cannondale).

    Hm. Why not Cannondale? Honest curiosity here.

    -km

    --
    the black rose
    proud to be owned by a yorkie
    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

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  5. Bill Davidson
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    the black rose said:

    Hm. Why not Cannondale? Honest curiosity here.

    Do they even make cheap entry level bikes?

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  6. Chalo
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    the black rose said:


    gooserider said:


    A bike shop entry level Schwinn is comparable
    to any other entry level bike shop bikes, be it Trek, Giant,
    Cannondale(well, maybe not Cannondale).

    Hm. Why not Cannondale? Honest curiosity here.

    Because entry level Cannondales are a cut above the run-o-mill entry
    level bikes. For many years, all Cannondales of a given species
    sported the same kind of USA-made frame, only with different paint
    colors and parts selections. The fancy models these days are
    distinguished not by craftsmanship or finish, but just by obsessively
    "lightweighted" designs.

    Even now the cheapest Cannondale bikes sport top quality hand-welded
    and hand-finished aluminum frames made in the USA. As a result, they
    don't start as cheap as other makes-- so you could say that they just
    don't make any entry level bikes.

    Chalo Colina

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  7. the black rose
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    Chalo said:
    the black rose said:
    gooserider said:

    A bike shop entry level Schwinn is comparable
    to any other entry level bike shop bikes, be it Trek, Giant,
    Cannondale(well, maybe not Cannondale).

    Hm. Why not Cannondale? Honest curiosity here.

    Because entry level Cannondales are a cut above the run-o-mill entry
    level bikes. For many years, all Cannondales of a given species
    sported the same kind of USA-made frame, only with different paint
    colors and parts selections. The fancy models these days are
    distinguished not by craftsmanship or finish, but just by obsessively
    "lightweighted" designs.

    Even now the cheapest Cannondale bikes sport top quality hand-welded
    and hand-finished aluminum frames made in the USA. As a result, they
    don't start as cheap as other makes-- so you could say that they just
    don't make any entry level bikes.

    Ah, okay, that makes sense. I guess I was wondering if it was
    anti-C'dale bias or something.

    -km

    --
    the black rose
    proud to be owned by a yorkie
    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

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  8. gooserider
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    "the black rose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    gooserider said:

    "rick" <rick @ nowhere.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just a few word for the one wondering if they should buy those bike.My
    answer is yes.

    If you bought your Schwinn at a bike shop, it's not even close in


    quality to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what's available at WalMart. A bike shop entry level Schwinn is


    comparable

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to any other entry level bike shop bikes, be it Trek, Giant,
    Cannondale(well, maybe not Cannondale).

    Hm. Why not Cannondale? Honest curiosity here.

    Because all Cannondales have USA made hand welded frames, while the other
    manufacturers use cheaper frames for their entry level bikes. Not that you
    can really get a bad bike from an LBS. But Cannondale is the only big
    manufacturer that equips every bike they make with a US made frame,
    regardless of price level.

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  9. gooserider
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    "Mark Weaver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "rick" <rick @ nowhere.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just a few word for the one wondering if they should buy those bike.My
    answer is yes.


    If you bought your Schwinn at a bike shop, it's not even close in


    quality

    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    what's available at WalMart. A bike shop entry level Schwinn is


    comparable

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to any other entry level bike shop bikes, be it Trek, Giant,
    Cannondale(well, maybe not Cannondale).

    Check the components. My wife's Walmart Schwinn from last year has the
    same, or slightly better components than my daughter's low-end LBS bike
    bought a year earlier--read derailleur is up one step in the Shimano
    food-chain over the LBS bike, the front fork is also one notch up (same
    brand but cast alum parts instead of painted steel). Same with the


    brakes.

    Quoted message said:

    The Schwinn also has two sets of braze-ons vs one on my daughter's bike


    and

    Quoted message said:

    a threadless rather than threaded headset. The one exception to that rule
    is that the Schwinn has a quick release front wheel only. Overall,


    though,

    Quoted message said:

    I think the Schwinn was a heck of a deal for $149. The main downside is


    no

    Quoted message said:

    free LBS tune-ups -- you have to do that yourself (which I don't really
    mind).

    I accompanied my friend when he purchased his Schwinn Sidewinder from Wal
    Mart. I found his bike to be a heavy, poorly performing tank. I do not doubt
    what you're saying, but his bike was a piece of junk. Maybe things have
    changed?

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  10. Luigi de Guzman
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    gooserider said:


    Because all Cannondales have USA made hand welded frames, while the other
    manufacturers use cheaper frames for their entry level bikes. Not that you
    can really get a bad bike from an LBS. But Cannondale is the only big
    manufacturer that equips every bike they make with a US made frame,
    regardless of price level.

    ....But if my frame is well-made and well-aligned, do I care where it
    was made?

    -Luigi

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  11. gooserider
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    "Luigi de Guzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    gooserider said:


    Because all Cannondales have USA made hand welded frames, while the other
    manufacturers use cheaper frames for their entry level bikes. Not that


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can really get a bad bike from an LBS. But Cannondale is the only big
    manufacturer that equips every bike they make with a US made frame,
    regardless of price level.

    ...But if my frame is well-made and well-aligned, do I care where it
    was made?

    -Luigi

    I do, since it keeps hard working Americans in Pennsylvania employed.
    Cannondale still manages to keep their "entry level" bikes relatively
    affordable, despite paying its' workers a living wage.

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  12. the black rose
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    gooserider said:

    "Luigi de Guzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    gooserider said:

    Because all Cannondales have USA made hand welded frames, while the other
    manufacturers use cheaper frames for their entry level bikes. Not that

    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can really get a bad bike from an LBS. But Cannondale is the only big
    manufacturer that equips every bike they make with a US made frame,
    regardless of price level.

    ...But if my frame is well-made and well-aligned, do I care where it
    was made?

    -Luigi

    I do, since it keeps hard working Americans in Pennsylvania employed.
    Cannondale still manages to keep their "entry level" bikes relatively
    affordable, despite paying its' workers a living wage.

    That's a good point. My husband and I try to support American over
    foreign and local over national, but we're well enough off to afford it,
    and not everybody is.

    -km

    --
    the black rose
    proud to be owned by a yorkie
    http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts

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  13. Mark Weaver
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    "the black rose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ...But if my frame is well-made and well-aligned, do I care where it
    was made?

    -Luigi

    I do, since it keeps hard working Americans in Pennsylvania employed.
    Cannondale still manages to keep their "entry level" bikes relatively
    affordable, despite paying its' workers a living wage.

    That's a good point. My husband and I try to support American over
    foreign and local over national, but we're well enough off to afford it,
    and not everybody is.

    I'm still *really* puzzled by people who consider themselves ethical &
    praiseworthy when they go out of their way and spend more money in order to,
    effectively, boycott products made by poor people in developing countries
    whenever possible.

    Mark

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  14. George
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    "Mark Weaver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I'm still *really* puzzled by people who consider themselves ethical &
    praiseworthy when they go out of their way and spend more money in order


    to,

    Quoted message said:

    effectively, boycott products made by poor people in developing countries
    whenever possible.

    Mark


    I like to think we are boycotting a few families (such as the Waltons) who
    don't care if there is no industry and only low paying jobs in the US as
    long as they can continue to amass wealth and power.

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  15. Mark Weaver
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    "George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Weaver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm still *really* puzzled by people who consider themselves ethical &
    praiseworthy when they go out of their way and spend more money in order


    to,

    Quoted message said:

    effectively, boycott products made by poor people in developing


    countries

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    whenever possible.

    Mark


    I like to think we are boycotting a few families (such as the Waltons) who
    don't care if there is no industry and only low paying jobs in the US as
    long as they can continue to amass wealth and power.

    That's a different issue than whether or not it is somehow more moral to
    avoid products made by poor people in poor countries. If you don't like
    Walmart, don't shop at Walmart -- there are plenty of other stores selling
    the same stuff -- say Costco, for example, where starting wages are $10/hour
    and..gasp..some employees are even unionized:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2104988/

    People need to get past the idea that, for example, there is a certain fixed
    number of bicycle manufacturing jobs that aren't created or destroyed but
    only moved around the world. It's simply not true--the US has lost lots of
    manufacturing jobs (even while manufacturing output has increased), but most
    jobs have been lost because of gains in automation and efficiency here, not
    because the jobs 'moved' to China. Hell, even China is losing manufacturing
    jobs because of greater productivity. A hundred years ago, about half of
    all Americans worked on farms, but now only a small percentage do.
    Manufacturing (including bicycle manufacturing) is going through a similar
    process. It takes a lot fewer people to grow our food than it used to, and
    it takes a lot fewer people to make our bicycles, too.

    Mark

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