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Why is it so expensive compared to overseas?

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  1. Hi all,

    There has been some discussion about supporting the
    LBS but why is it that clothing and helmets (as well as
    other things) are so expensive compared to overseas?

    The Doctor.

  2. Seems to be greedy distributors as much as anything. I know my LBS owner
    quite well. A few years ago I asked him to price a Cateye Stadium 3 for me,
    after telling him that I could get it for $NZ850 from Burkes Cycles in NZ
    (that was about $A650 at the time). He called back and told me that his buy
    price from the Australian distributor was several hundred dollars more than
    what it would cost me from NZ.

    As for clothing, Assos clothing is pretty well priced here
    (www.assos.com.au). I have a brother in Switzerland, and asked him to price
    a couple of Assos items over there. There wasn't much difference to the
    Australian price, so I bought here. But I agree that for a lot of items the
    Australian price is pretty outrageous. I can buy Shimano cassettes mail
    order from the US for about half what they cost me here.

    Nick

    "The Doctor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    There has been some discussion about supporting the
    LBS but why is it that clothing and helmets (as well as
    other things) are so expensive compared to overseas?

    The Doctor.

  3. Nick Payne said:


    Seems to be greedy distributors as much as anything.

    I'll put a word in for distributors;

    1) economy of scale.
    If I can spread shipping/courier/etc over 100 items, then I have less
    mark up, but obviously it is more if I can only sell 10.

    2) rate of sales. I had this problem with books. A few items, the
    initial order of 10 would sell fast and we would re-order. For many
    items, it took a few years to sell the titles.

  4. In defense of the retail outlets here, most people online compare
    overseas Mailorder firms with our shopfront retail outlets. Apart from
    the obvious difference between shopfront & online retailers in rent
    /employee disparities & actually holding stock on the floor rather than
    ordering from the wholesaler when ordered. If you actually visit a real
    life bike shop in some of these countries like the UK you will have a
    nasty shock like a basic bike service for 30 pounds etc & the parts
    prices are nothing flash either.
    Apart from the obvious economies of scales with Australia's miniscule
    cycling population , you will find that many of the big brand equipment
    here in Australia is locked into sole distributorships whereas in Europe
    the grey import is alive & well where a shop in one country can purchase
    from a middle-man in another country without threat of legal action which
    is NOT the case here .
    Plus alot of original equipment unpackaged (OEM) product is sold retail
    throughout the Internet which although frowned upon by the manufacturers
    isn't exactly stomped on either .
    All well & good to accuse the bike shops here of exorbitant pricing if
    there is a level playing field but you have to compare apples with
    apples.
    In some defense of the distributors, they have to carry inventory,pay
    import duty & GST, carry spare parts , magazine advertising is expensive,
    liability insurance, rent , wages & super , warranty issues (even the
    unwarranted ones).......etc.

    On the subject of warranties I notice people buying digital cameras on
    the Net from overseas & then expecting local warranty are being turned
    away , it appears Worldwide Warranty means an American going overseas can
    expect quick warranty work Worldwide but a camera brought in from
    overseas cannot that was in one of the large computer publications last
    month.

    Plus if as earlier in the thread the guys at ASSOS here in Oz are
    offering a better deal than Switzerland then they are giving you a good
    deal :
    Clothing imports have 25% duty plus 10% GST on goods & freight!

    But if you want another brand of pro clothing drop us a line 🙂

    Steve @ IDEAL

    Terry Collins said:
    Nick Payne said:


    Seems to be greedy distributors as much as anything.

    I'll put a word in for distributors;

    1) economy of scale.
    If I can spread shipping/courier/etc over 100 items, then I have less
    mark up, but obviously it is more if I can only sell 10.

    2) rate of sales. I had this problem with books. A few items, the
    initial order of 10 would sell fast and we would re-order. For many
    items, it took a few years to sell the titles.

  5. The Doctor said:

    Hi all,

    There has been some discussion about supporting the
    LBS but why is it that clothing and helmets (as well as
    other things) are so expensive compared to overseas?

    The Doctor.

    the prices are usually good, the freight is usually unbelieveably expensive. Sometimes that brings the actual cost to above local price. For example, I wanted to buy a jersey from Canada - $80 jersey, $60 shipping. The other reason is that exported items (from OS) are usually GST free and you can usually miss paying it here.

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    Quoted message said:

    the prices are usually good, the freight is usually unbelieveably
    expensive. Sometimes that brings the actual cost to above local price.
    For example, I wanted to buy a jersey from Canada - $80 jersey, $60
    shipping. The other reason is that exported items (from OS) are
    usually GST free and you can usually miss paying it here.

    I noticed that too. Canada Post is stupidly expensive compared to USPS.
    You might as well get it by courier if you're going to get anything from
    Canada.

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  7. "The Doctor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    There has been some discussion about supporting the
    LBS but why is it that clothing and helmets (as well as
    other things) are so expensive compared to overseas?

    I priced some common items in Europe during April and
    found that in stores (not mail order outlets) prices were
    mostly quite similar or more $$ than the Aussie prices.
    I will admit to only going into shops I saw, so these are
    likely to be the larger, more expensive ones, but they
    didn't seem much different to Aussie stores at all.
    In fact, if you aren't paying retail at a local store the
    European stores all worked out more expensive..
    Just my observation. Will not hold true for everything.

    hippy

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