Potential new bike, Foes FXR, the good the bad the ugly

Bruce Edge said:

I'd never buy anything without subjecting my carefully thought out plan
to the acid test, so here goes.

03 Foes FXR with Ti curnutt shock. Any good/bad/indifferent feelings?

Intended use: hard trail riding with moderate DH every so often.

Also, it's got 1" shorter chain stays than my current bike. What's the
implication of that? Easier manuals? Less high speed stability?

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

TIA, Bruce

Yow! Watch out for those trades if he's not local. Go through a
neutral LBS willing to handle the shipping and receiving for a fee of
course.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Matthew Paterson said:

Bruce Edge said:

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

If you want something a bit lighter but with more travel for a bit more
aggresive trail riding then yes, I would take the Foes over the Ellsworth.

Who is this 'guy'. Maybe you should use a Escrow service of some sort.

Here's the one I'm looking at:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93642&page=1&pp=15

and I giving up this:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94891

-Bruce

Matthew Paterson said...

Quoted message said:

Bruce Edge said:

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

If you want something a bit lighter but with more travel for a bit more
aggresive trail riding then yes, I would take the Foes over the Ellsworth.

Who is this 'guy'. Maybe you should use a Escrow service of some sort.

Escrow services can be 100% phoney criminal fly-by-night scams. Make
damn sure it is legit. Somebody attempted to scam me less than 2 weeks
ago with a phoney escrow service. If you feel lucky about whatever it
may do to your computer, go to www.baynestrading.net to see an escrow
scam in action.

SuperSlinky said:

Matthew Paterson said...

Quoted message said:

Bruce Edge said:

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

If you want something a bit lighter but with more travel for a bit
more aggresive trail riding then yes, I would take the Foes over the
Ellsworth.

Who is this 'guy'. Maybe you should use a Escrow service of some
sort.

Escrow services can be 100% phoney criminal fly-by-night scams. Make
damn sure it is legit. Somebody attempted to scam me less than 2 weeks
ago with a phoney escrow service. If you feel lucky about whatever it
may do to your computer, go to www.baynestrading.net to see an escrow
scam in action.

I'd go with escrow.com, mostly because they are the ones eBay recommends
(which would hopefully be a sign of legitimacy).
For something like this you'd definitely want to go with a known service. If
a seller won't use a service you're both comfortable with then pass on the
deal!

Matt (they've tried but I haven't been scammed yet)

Bruce Edge said:

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

If you want something a bit lighter but with more travel for a bit more
aggresive trail riding then yes, I would take the Foes over the Ellsworth.

Who is this 'guy'. Maybe you should use a Escrow service of some sort.

--
Matt

Fear of a flat planet

Bruce Edge said:

Matthew Paterson said:

Bruce Edge said:

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

If you want something a bit lighter but with more travel for a bit
more aggresive trail riding then yes, I would take the Foes over the
Ellsworth.

Who is this 'guy'. Maybe you should use a Escrow service of some
sort.

Here's the one I'm looking at:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93642&page=1&pp=15

Make him cough up an extra $25 for using All Those Capital Letters!

Quoted message said:

and I giving up this:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94891

Personally, I'd go for it.

Bill "then again, I've never E-bayed nuttin' " S.

Bruce Edge said:

I'd never buy anything without subjecting my carefully thought out plan
to the acid test, so here goes.

03 Foes FXR with Ti curnutt shock. Any good/bad/indifferent feelings?

The Curnutt is the best rear shock that I've
ridden (even better than the Fox DHX 5.0 that I
just started riding).

If you get a Foes, you're going to need to get a
Titec Knock Scoper or similar due to the
interupted seat tube.

I'm in the Bay Area if you need someone to eyeball
it (assuming the guy isn't really far away).

--
petefagerlin.com

everything that is wrong with the internet

p e t e f a g e r l i n said:

Bruce Edge said:

I'd never buy anything without subjecting my carefully thought out
plan to the acid test, so here goes.

03 Foes FXR with Ti curnutt shock. Any good/bad/indifferent feelings?

The Curnutt is the best rear shock that I've ridden (even better than
the Fox DHX 5.0 that I just started riding).

If you get a Foes, you're going to need to get a Titec Knock Scoper or
similar due to the interupted seat tube.

Hmm, yes, I see what you mean. No biggie, I can live with that.

Quoted message said:

I'm in the Bay Area if you need someone to eyeball it (assuming the guy
isn't really far away).

Thanks for the offer.
It looks like it's going to happen, so if you really don't mind I'd sure
appreciate a 2nd pair impartial of eyeballs.
I'll find out the exact location.

-Bruce

Bruce Edge said:

Matthew Paterson said:

Bruce Edge said:

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

If you want something a bit lighter but with more travel for a bit
more
aggresive trail riding then yes, I would take the Foes over the
Ellsworth.
Who is this 'guy'. Maybe you should use a Escrow service of some sort.

Here's the one I'm looking at:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93642&page=1&pp=15

and I giving up this:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94891

-Bruce

What are you thinking!!! Jump on it... but I would first shoot the pic of
the dent over to Foes just to make sure.

Assuming Foes says it isn't too much to worry about, do it. And I would
take Pete up on his very generous offer. Get that dudes home addy.

I've seen lonewolfe on RM before, but I really don't remember much about
him. Search his previous postings to get an feel for him. Also, double
check the Bad Seller section (just in case). You may learn a litte history
about that frame also. But if he coughs up his home addy without
flinching, he's probably legit.

That's a kick ass frame... I think you'd do well with it. There's a lot of
SPV shock manufacturers these days, but only one true master - Curnutt

Too bad it's not a small; I'd snatched it before you even knew what
happened :-) Now, if only I could find a XTD for dirt cheap.
--
Slacker

Bruce Edge <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I'd never buy anything without subjecting my carefully thought out plan
to the acid test, so here goes.

03 Foes FXR with Ti curnutt shock. Any good/bad/indifferent feelings?

Intended use: hard trail riding with moderate DH every so often.

Also, it's got 1" shorter chain stays than my current bike. What's the
implication of that? Easier manuals? Less high speed stability?

There's a guy who wants to trade frame for frame, my joker for an 03
FXR. Whaddayouguysthink?

TIA, Bruce

I've had my 03 FXR for a while now, here's what I've noticed.
The 03 rear triangle doesn't have a huge amount of rear tyre
clearance. It's not the width, it's the height of the tyre that is
resricted by the yoke, so if you're planning to put monster tyres on
it try before you buy.
With a 5 inch fork like my Talas the head angle is very XCish, which I
like, as my Loco previously was overly slack with 5 inches up front. I
think the frame was designed more with a 6 inch fork in mind, I
usually see them with Shermans mounted up.
For some reason I smack the pedals on rocks a lot on this bike, the BB
isn't low and the rear sag is set right, so I can't really explain it
other than that the rear is pretty active.
It doesn't bob at all but the frame is much heavier than they say.
Mine came in at 30 lb with a lightweight XC build.
Basically add a couple of pounds to what you figure.

its a goood ride though.

Cheers

G

Quoted message said:

I've had my 03 FXR for a while now, here's what I've noticed.
The 03 rear triangle doesn't have a huge amount of rear tyre
clearance. It's not the width, it's the height of the tyre that is
resricted by the yoke, so if you're planning to put monster tyres on
it try before you buy.
With a 5 inch fork like my Talas the head angle is very XCish, which I
like, as my Loco previously was overly slack with 5 inches up front. I
think the frame was designed more with a 6 inch fork in mind, I
usually see them with Shermans mounted up.
For some reason I smack the pedals on rocks a lot on this bike, the BB
isn't low and the rear sag is set right, so I can't really explain it
other than that the rear is pretty active.
It doesn't bob at all but the frame is much heavier than they say.
Mine came in at 30 lb with a lightweight XC build.
Basically add a couple of pounds to what you figure.

its a goood ride though.

Cheers

G

That's OK, I usually don't run more than a 2.2 in back anyway.
Interesting about the pedal smack though, it has a 13.something BB
height, that's not very low. Well, I've coped with that on enduros and
ACs before, so that's not a huge issue.
My joker was 31 lbs (down from 38), so thats OK too.

I'm throwing on a 130mm sherman firefly, so that should be about perfect.

I just have to keep the seller from regaining his sanity now. LOL

-Bruce

Bruce Edge <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've had my 03 FXR for a while now, here's what I've noticed.
The 03 rear triangle doesn't have a huge amount of rear tyre
clearance. It's not the width, it's the height of the tyre that is
resricted by the yoke, so if you're planning to put monster tyres on
it try before you buy.
With a 5 inch fork like my Talas the head angle is very XCish, which I
like, as my Loco previously was overly slack with 5 inches up front. I
think the frame was designed more with a 6 inch fork in mind, I
usually see them with Shermans mounted up.
For some reason I smack the pedals on rocks a lot on this bike, the BB
isn't low and the rear sag is set right, so I can't really explain it
other than that the rear is pretty active.
It doesn't bob at all but the frame is much heavier than they say.
Mine came in at 30 lb with a lightweight XC build.
Basically add a couple of pounds to what you figure.

its a goood ride though.

Cheers

G

That's OK, I usually don't run more than a 2.2 in back anyway.
Interesting about the pedal smack though, it has a 13.something BB
height, that's not very low. Well, I've coped with that on enduros and
ACs before, so that's not a huge issue.
My joker was 31 lbs (down from 38), so thats OK too.

I'm throwing on a 130mm sherman firefly, so that should be about perfect.

I just have to keep the seller from regaining his sanity now. LOL

-Bruce

Don't forget to confirm the spring rate is OK for you. Those Ti
springs are pretty spendy, and the shock doesn't take much preload.

cheers

G

Damn, he backed out. Must have come to his senses.
Oh well, next time....

-Bruce

Damn, he backed out. Must have come to his senses.
Oh well, next time....

-Bruce

Bruce Edge <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Damn, he backed out. Must have come to his senses.
Oh well, next time....

-Bruce

You can have mine if you like, I [censored] hate it.

g