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  1. Hello,

    I'm retaping my bars and have found that the brake cables have got some
    nasty kinks in them. They're ITM marathons - look like normal drops but
    curve out to the sides and back towards the rider on the tops. I bought
    them a couple of months ago as I thought they'd give lots of extra hand
    positions for long days out.
    The cables have been taped up under the bars, the kinks are where the bars
    sweep out (very difficult to explain without showing it to you).
    Has anyone else got experience of this? Or did I miss something in the
    manual, should I be using non-aero brake levers with them? To be fair,
    they don't have grooves in them to route an aero lever cable.
    There's a picture of them here, but the bit that sweeps out doesn't look
    so big in the picture.
    http://www.changing-gear.com/acatalog/CG_Catalog_Handlebars_2.html
    Any advice would be appreciated. Don't want to fit other bars, I quite
    like these and paid £45 not so long ago.

    Chris
    --
    |C|H|R|I|S|@|T|R|I|N|I|T|Y|W|I|L|L|S|.|C|O|M|
    Remove the bars to contact me

  2. Chris Davies said:

    Hello,

    I'm retaping my bars and have found that the brake cables have got
    some nasty kinks in them. They're ITM marathons - look like normal
    drops but curve out to the sides and back towards the rider on the
    tops. I bought them a couple of months ago as I thought they'd give
    lots of extra hand positions for long days out.
    The cables have been taped up under the bars, the kinks are where the
    bars sweep out (very difficult to explain without showing it to you).
    Has anyone else got experience of this? Or did I miss something in the
    manual, should I be using non-aero brake levers with them? To be fair,
    they don't have grooves in them to route an aero lever cable.
    There's a picture of them here, but the bit that sweeps out doesn't
    look so big in the picture.
    http://www.changing-gear.com/acatalog/CG_Catalog_Handlebars_2.html
    Any advice would be appreciated. Don't want to fit other bars, I quite
    like these and paid £45 not so long ago.

    What is the problem with the kinks? Added cable friction or hand
    discomfort? Perhaps the cables could be more firmly taped down or to a
    slightly different place with selotape (or any non-stretchy tape), before
    apply bar tape.

    Gel mitts might help. If you do ever want to try new bars, I recommend 3T
    Morphe.

    ~PB

  3. Pete Biggs said:
    Chris Davies said:

    Hello,

    I'm retaping my bars and have found that the brake cables have got
    some nasty kinks in them. They're ITM marathons - look like normal
    drops but curve out to the sides and back towards the rider on the
    tops. I bought them a couple of months ago as I thought they'd give
    lots of extra hand positions for long days out.
    The cables have been taped up under the bars, the kinks are where the
    bars sweep out (very difficult to explain without showing it to you).
    Has anyone else got experience of this? Or did I miss something in the
    manual, should I be using non-aero brake levers with them? To be fair,
    they don't have grooves in them to route an aero lever cable.
    There's a picture of them here, but the bit that sweeps out doesn't
    look so big in the picture.
    http://www.changing-gear.com/acatalog/CG_Catalog_Handlebars_2.html
    Any advice would be appreciated. Don't want to fit other bars, I quite
    like these and paid £45 not so long ago.

    What is the problem with the kinks? Added cable friction or hand
    discomfort? Perhaps the cables could be more firmly taped down or to a
    slightly different place with selotape (or any non-stretchy tape), before
    apply bar tape.

    Gel mitts might help. If you do ever want to try new bars, I recommend
    3T
    Morphe.

    ~PB

    My only real concern is added friction, plus the possibility of damaging
    the other cable. Hand comfort is fine as they run on the other side of the
    bars to me.
    Maybe I messed up fitting them, but what I've done isn't any different to
    the way I've fitted cables to any other kind of bar (following round the
    inside of the bar and fixing down with insulation tape).
    To be honest, I fancy a pair of non-aero levers anyway, I have modern bars
    but the rest of my bike exudes "retro charm".
    Does anyone have a pair they would consider parting with for a few quid?

    --
    |C|H|R|I|S|@|T|R|I|N|I|T|Y|W|I|L|L|S|.|C|O|M|
    Remove the bars to contact me

  4. Chris Davies said:

    Does anyone have a pair they would consider parting with for a few
    quid?

    I have some mid eighties Weinman ones going spare, yours for teice the cost
    of the postage. If you are interested let me know and I'll send you a
    picture. They were used with Weinman centre pull brakes and have a QR device
    built in.

  5. Chris Davies said:

    Does anyone have a pair they would consider parting with for a few quid?

    Since you ask, yes I do. I did the opposite and recently replaced my old
    non-aero levers with aeros. They're a bit scuffed from being leant
    against walls, etc, but are basically in good nick. Note they have hard
    plastic hoods rather than rubber, which makes fitting bar tape around
    them slightly awkward.

    Anyway, as long as the postage isn't ridiculously expensive, you can
    have them for free - I'll just be happy to see them going to a good
    home. If you're interested, email me your address to
    david[dot]kenning[at]which[dot]net.

    d.

  6. Martin Newstead said:

    They were used with Weinman centre pull brakes and have a QR device
    built in.

    Chris, if you're having trouble choosing between mine and Martin's
    tempting offers, note that mine /don't/ have the QR. But I've trumped
    him on the postage. 😉

    d.

  7. Chris Davies said:

    To be honest, I fancy a pair of non-aero levers anyway, I have modern
    bars but the rest of my bike exudes "retro charm".

    They don't work as well.

    "Aero levers are generally an improvement over the older type. The
    pivots
    are located differently, making it possible to get fairly serious
    braking
    from the position where the rider's hand is on top of the lever
    hood.
    Non-aero levers would permit the use of this position for gentle
    deceleration only.

    "Aero brake levers usually have more mechanical advantage..."
    - Sheldon Brown,
    url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BDB5B70.BCA875F2%40sheldonbrown.
    com&output=gplain

    ~PB

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