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  1. Ill get right to the point. My right 2008 Centaur Ergo lever is not shifting properly with the thumb paddle. It works fine from the 23t to about the 16t cog, but will then jump 2,3,4 or even 5 cogs with one shift. The problem is the paddle ratcheting about 4-5 clicks, uncontrollably, when I press it once. Obviously, this isn't just dumping the chain since I am only shifting once, and the 08 Centaur models are not able to do that. For example, if I am on the 16t and want to go to the 15t, I have to press the paddle, find out how far the Campy God's will it to jump, and then shift back up with the index finger to where I need it.

    Also, when it does this, I can feel the thumb lever loosening up a little and just letting the ratchet mechanism free. If I press the paddle really hard to start with, I can sometimes force the paddle to go straight down and back up preventing the problem, but this isn't very often.

    I don't think that this is a cable wear or chain wear issue since it works fine on the bottom half of the cassette, and also since the problem can seemingly be isolated to the lever itself, although I suppose that could be caused by a stretched cable; maybe? Does anyone know what in Italy is going on?

  2. Never heard that one before. I've been riding with Ergo's since 93.
    I'd take them to the LBS. Find a so called Campy certified shop.
    They'll get ya squared away.
    Good luck.

  3. Her's the Campy link to find a Campy Proshop mechanic.

    http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/proshop/index.jsp

  4. BikeyGuy said:

    Never heard that one before. I've been riding with Ergo's since 93.
    I'd take them to the LBS. Find a so called Campy certified shop.
    They'll get ya squared away.
    Good luck.

    Thats about the most common issue ever on Campag shifters. The return springs are shot, your ergo's need to be rebuilt.

    Option A) do it yourself, B) have a shop do it.

    In my experience you used to get about 10,000-20,000 before requiring this. Newer levers seem to be anecdotally getting less. YMMV.

    http://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergo_rebuild.html

    Thats as good a link as any but Google 'rebuild campag g spring' and you'll get about a million results.

  5. sideshow_bob said:

    In my experience you used to get about 10,000-20,000 before requiring this. Newer levers seem to be anecdotally getting less. YMMV.

    I've had mine since late July, and they have about 2000-2500 kms. I'd say that's significantly less than 10-20 thousand.

    I've taken apart some 2001 Veloce levers before, so I think I can handle this[img]cyclingforums.comcool.gif[/img]. Thanks for the replies.

  6. Do a search on youtube, there are a couple of videos of people rebuilding their ergos. Good as a guide.

  7. About the springs, Branford says online that they have the "red edition" g-springs that came out with the newer record red series. Will those work in my Centaur ergo levers? Its not a huge deal, but it could be fun to try. Maybe I'll get those AND some Centaur springs just for kicks.

  8. IIRC, the RED Record springs (part of the Record Pro groupset) were a response to pro riders' desire for a firmer, more positive shift mode and feedback feel. They should be stiffer than 'regular' Record springs, but I don't know if they'll fit a Centaur lever.

    Branford should be able to advise you as to the interchangeablility.

  9. LewisBricktop said:

    Ill get right to the point. My right 2008 Centaur Ergo lever is not shifting properly with the thumb paddle. It works fine from the 23t to about the 16t cog, but will then jump 2,3,4 or even 5 cogs with one shift. The problem is the paddle ratcheting about 4-5 clicks, uncontrollably, when I press it once. Obviously, this isn't just dumping the chain since I am only shifting once, and the 08 Centaur models are not able to do that. For example, if I am on the 16t and want to go to the 15t, I have to press the paddle, find out how far the Campy God's will it to jump, and then shift back up with the index finger to where I need it.

    Also, when it does this, I can feel the thumb lever loosening up a little and just letting the ratchet mechanism free. If I press the paddle really hard to start with, I can sometimes force the paddle to go straight down and back up preventing the problem, but this isn't very often.

    I don't think that this is a cable wear or chain wear issue since it works fine on the bottom half of the cassette, and also since the problem can seemingly be isolated to the lever itself, although I suppose that could be caused by a stretched cable; maybe? Does anyone know what in Italy is going on?

    These levers, thankfully gone for 2009, are not the best and since you have a 3 year warranty, I say send it to a warranty center for a new one. The teeny bits that control the thumb button(actually a little lever system that releases a big wound up spring that controls up shifts)‚ is integrated into the lever and not replacable.

  10. sideshow_bob said:

    Thats about the most common issue ever on Campag shifters. The return springs are shot, your ergo's need to be rebuilt.

    Option A) do it yourself, B) have a shop do it.

    In my experience you used to get about 10,000-20,000 before requiring this. Newer levers seem to be anecdotally getting less. YMMV.

    http://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergo_rebuild.html

    Thats as good a link as any but Google 'rebuild campag g spring' and you'll get about a million results.

    2007/8 Centaur and below are a derivative of XENON WERGO, not like the more familiar 2006 and older ERGO. No 'g' springs in this lever

  11. LewisBricktop said:

    About the springs, Branford says online that they have the "red edition" g-springs that came out with the newer record red series. Will those work in my Centaur ergo levers? Its not a huge deal, but it could be fun to try. Maybe I'll get those AND some Centaur springs just for kicks.

    NOT on 2007/8 Centaur and below ERGO. They will work(and we have them also) on 2006 and older ERGO(all of them), 2007/8 Record and Chorus..NOT on any 2009 nor 2007/8 Centaur, Veloce, Mirage or Xenon of any year.

  12. CAMPYBOB said:

    IIRC, the RED Record springs (part of the Record Pro groupset) were a response to pro riders' desire for a firmer, more positive shift mode and feedback feel. They should be stiffer than 'regular' Record springs, but I don't know if they'll fit a Centaur lever.

    Branford should be able to advise you as to the interchangeablility.

    And they will also say you need a new spring carrier and probably a shift disc, both of which is not true.

  13. well alright then. i suppose ill get a hold of the QBP guys.

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