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  1. Monday I spent the day taking BSOs that had been assembled by
    volunteers and converting them into the nearest approximation of bikes
    possible. This was part of a local annual group effort that
    distributes bikes to kids in very poor neighborhoods at XMas. This
    year's BSOs were all single-speed coaster-brake units of varying size
    and style, all from one Chinese manufacturer. Since the 12th, over
    12,000 of them have been assembled by large number of people.

    While my sample was small, I was impressed by these points:

    -- The unskilled volunteers, with only a short video presentation as
    instruction, managed to get the right things in the right places
    pretty much every time. In particular, the percentage of bikes
    assembled with the forks turned 180 degrees was lower than I've seen
    at many Wal-Mart and Target stores.

    -- The number of bikes that had to be scrapped out due to a fatal
    failure for which no spares were on hand was amazingly small, and
    there had been no spare-parts buy with the bike purchase. All of the
    bikes had cheesy stamped-from-rod Ashtabula-style cranks, and I found
    only three failures of that part in the boneyard. With that type of
    crank, I'd have expected more.

    That said, I was antiwhelmed by these factors:

    -- Many of the bikes had chain tension so high that it caused
    perceptible drag; this was not due to volunteer error, as the frame
    assemblies arrived with the rear wheel in place and the chain already
    tensioned.

    -- Many of the rear axle tabs (they had horizontal axle slots, so
    they aren't "dropouts" per se, but they're the same part of the frame
    as a dropout) were not parallel; the left tab was typically the one
    which had a bit of toe-out as installed.

    -- The 20" (and smaller) bikes used a pseudo-BMX-style quill stem
    with a four-bolt clamp for the bars. The bolts had off-center round
    heads, and needed to be positioned just right in their recesses in the
    aluminum upper casting lest the process of tightening them down split
    the side out of the clamp. Needless to say, this was a frequent
    assembly error, though thanks to the instructions to the assemblers
    (to the effect of "just snug the nuts down; they'll be fully tightened
    during final inspection"😉 the number of caps split was actually very
    small.

    Overall, though, these units epitomized what I think of as the
    rock-bottom KFB; a Kid's First Bike with minimal frills, built fairly
    ruggedly but not grossly overweight, They had better seat clamps than
    I've seen on low-end Roadmasters (which, for me, is the ultimate POS
    in terms of quality for that part). The organizers went with
    coaster-brake bikes this year after having discovered last year that
    properly adjusting a hand brake setup can take as long as all of the
    other assembly tasks put together...and it requires someone who knows
    what they're doing if it's going to be right. (Side note: "Right" is
    not an adjective I would generally apply to the V-brake adjustments of
    bikes I've seen at places like Wal-Mart.)

    Next year, if I do this again, I'm taking my own pedal wrench.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  2. Werehatrack said:

    Monday I spent the day taking BSOs that had been assembled by
    volunteers and converting them into the nearest approximation of bikes
    possible. This was part of a local annual group effort that
    distributes bikes to kids in very poor neighborhoods at XMas. This
    year's BSOs were all single-speed coaster-brake units of varying size
    and style, all from one Chinese manufacturer. Since the 12th, over
    12,000 of them have been assembled by large number of people.

    While my sample was small, I was impressed by these points:

    -- The unskilled volunteers, with only a short video presentation as
    instruction, managed to get the right things in the right places
    pretty much every time. In particular, the percentage of bikes
    assembled with the forks turned 180 degrees was lower than I've seen
    at many Wal-Mart and Target stores.

    -- The number of bikes that had to be scrapped out due to a fatal
    failure for which no spares were on hand was amazingly small, and
    there had been no spare-parts buy with the bike purchase. All of the
    bikes had cheesy stamped-from-rod Ashtabula-style cranks, and I found
    only three failures of that part in the boneyard. With that type of
    crank, I'd have expected more.

    That said, I was antiwhelmed by these factors:

    -- Many of the bikes had chain tension so high that it caused
    perceptible drag; this was not due to volunteer error, as the frame
    assemblies arrived with the rear wheel in place and the chain already
    tensioned.

    -- Many of the rear axle tabs (they had horizontal axle slots, so
    they aren't "dropouts" per se, but they're the same part of the frame
    as a dropout) were not parallel; the left tab was typically the one
    which had a bit of toe-out as installed.

    -- The 20" (and smaller) bikes used a pseudo-BMX-style quill stem
    with a four-bolt clamp for the bars. The bolts had off-center round
    heads, and needed to be positioned just right in their recesses in the
    aluminum upper casting lest the process of tightening them down split
    the side out of the clamp. Needless to say, this was a frequent
    assembly error, though thanks to the instructions to the assemblers
    (to the effect of "just snug the nuts down; they'll be fully tightened
    during final inspection"😉 the number of caps split was actually very
    small.

    Overall, though, these units epitomized what I think of as the
    rock-bottom KFB; a Kid's First Bike with minimal frills, built fairly
    ruggedly but not grossly overweight, They had better seat clamps than
    I've seen on low-end Roadmasters (which, for me, is the ultimate POS
    in terms of quality for that part). The organizers went with
    coaster-brake bikes this year after having discovered last year that
    properly adjusting a hand brake setup can take as long as all of the
    other assembly tasks put together...and it requires someone who knows
    what they're doing if it's going to be right. (Side note: "Right" is
    not an adjective I would generally apply to the V-brake adjustments of
    bikes I've seen at places like Wal-Mart.)

    Next year, if I do this again, I'm taking my own pedal wrench.

    Good man. They were lucky to have you helping out.

    BS (no, really)

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Werehatrack

    Quoted message said:

    Monday I spent the day taking BSOs that had been assembled by
    volunteers and converting them into the nearest approximation of bikes
    possible. This was part of a local annual group effort that
    distributes bikes to kids in very poor neighborhoods at XMas.

    <snip>

    Your and your colleagues' efforts merit praise. I've no doubt that
    they'll end in many smiles and much delight. Good for you!

    Luke

  4. Werehatrack said:

    Monday I spent the day taking BSOs that had been assembled by
    volunteers and converting them into the nearest approximation of bikes
    possible. This was part of a local annual group effort that
    distributes bikes to kids in very poor neighborhoods at XMas. This
    year's BSOs were all single-speed coaster-brake units of varying size
    and style, all from one Chinese manufacturer. Since the 12th, over
    12,000 of them have been assembled by large number of people.

    While my sample was small, I was impressed by these points:

    -- The unskilled volunteers, with only a short video presentation as
    instruction, managed to get the right things in the right places
    pretty much every time. In particular, the percentage of bikes
    assembled with the forks turned 180 degrees was lower than I've seen
    at many Wal-Mart and Target stores.

    -- The number of bikes that had to be scrapped out due to a fatal
    failure for which no spares were on hand was amazingly small, and
    there had been no spare-parts buy with the bike purchase. All of the
    bikes had cheesy stamped-from-rod Ashtabula-style cranks, and I found
    only three failures of that part in the boneyard. With that type of
    crank, I'd have expected more.

    That said, I was antiwhelmed by these factors:

    -- Many of the bikes had chain tension so high that it caused
    perceptible drag; this was not due to volunteer error, as the frame
    assemblies arrived with the rear wheel in place and the chain already
    tensioned.

    -- Many of the rear axle tabs (they had horizontal axle slots, so
    they aren't "dropouts" per se, but they're the same part of the frame
    as a dropout) were not parallel; the left tab was typically the one
    which had a bit of toe-out as installed.

    Most of these, especially on kids' bikes, have super-silly
    multiply-folded-over 1mm thick mild-steel dropouts to make a 3 or 4mm thick
    dropout. These can all be bent back with an *adjustable wrench*.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  5. Squid-in-Training said:
    Werehatrack said:

    -- Many of the rear axle tabs (they had horizontal axle slots, so
    they aren't "dropouts" per se, but they're the same part of the frame
    as a dropout) were not parallel; the left tab was typically the one
    which had a bit of toe-out as installed.

    Most of these, especially on kids' bikes, have super-silly
    multiply-folded-over 1mm thick mild-steel dropouts to make a 3 or 4mm thick
    dropout. These can all be bent back with an *adjustable wrench*.

    In this case they were made from steel plate, around 3mm thick,
    probably punched out. The spread of the stays appeared to be where
    the variability came in; some were far enough apart that the axle nuts
    apparently drew the tabs in several millimeters when the wheel was
    installed. It looked like a QC/tolerance issue in the frame welding
    process. Given the type of bike involved, though, I really doubt that
    it will make any difference in the long run.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  6. Squid-in-Training said:

    Most of these, especially on kids' bikes, have super-silly
    multiply-folded-over 1mm thick mild-steel dropouts to make a 3 or 4mm thick
    dropout. These can all be bent back with an *adjustable wrench*.

    My current beater, the non-dropout (but not track-end either) horizontal
    slots are simply the end of the chainstay, flattened, and doubled over,
    with a slot cut in them. It doesn't get much crappier than that -- but
    it's surprisingly functional.

    The same goes for those ashtabula cranks -- they're *way* cheaper than
    even the cheapest drop forged steel 3-piece sets, but they're not all that
    nonfunctional.

    Jasper

  7. Jasper Janssen said:
    Squid-in-Training said:

    Most of these, especially on kids' bikes, have super-silly
    multiply-folded-over 1mm thick mild-steel dropouts to make a 3 or 4mm thick
    dropout. These can all be bent back with an *adjustable wrench*.

    My current beater, the non-dropout (but not track-end either) horizontal
    slots are simply the end of the chainstay, flattened, and doubled over,
    with a slot cut in them. It doesn't get much crappier than that -- but
    it's surprisingly functional.

    The same goes for those ashtabula cranks -- they're *way* cheaper than
    even the cheapest drop forged steel 3-piece sets, but they're not all that
    nonfunctional.

    Well the _real_ Ashtabula was forged and nearly indestructible. Those things
    would survive just insane cyclostupidity.

    Ron

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