116 bcd Chainrings

Scott said:

I have an old Campy Victory crank that I'm using on a road bike I'm
building for my daughter. Does anyone know where I can get inexpensive
chainrings in 116 bcd? Looking for something like a 50/36.

I had one of those cranks. I don't know of anyone
who has any rings, except one guy I saw at a swap meet in April
(Trexlertown, PA). He wanted $10, which was more than my interest since I
no longer have the cranks -- I do have a buddy who does, but I don't think
he'd want the ring that badly.

Anyway, your only hope is a swap meet. On the other hand, the very
popular 110mm bcd "compact road" cranks are not terribly expensive (unless
you want carbon), and have a huge supply of chainrings in the market.
These chainrings are also used on touring bikes, and older mountain bikes.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Scott said:

I have an old Campy Victory crank that I'm using on a road bike I'm
building for my daughter. Does anyone know where I can get inexpensive
chainrings in 116 bcd? Looking for something like a 50/36.

_ Ebay is the only source I've found. This guy had a bunch
at one point, but seems to only have the larger 53/52 sizes
at the moment.

http://stores.ebay.com/WWCyclery-Bicycle-Components

_ This site claims to have them, but I've not had much luck
contacting them. I didn't try very hard though.

http://www.bicycleclassics.com/

_ In the long run, it's probably a lot cheaper to just switch to
110 BCD, despite the prettiness of the Victory cranks. Finding a
50 tooth ring in that size is going to be next to impossible, I
doubt they were ever made. I've only ever seen 36,42,52 and 53.

_ There's also the problem of the extracter threads. If yours
doesn't have the auto-extracter crank bolts already installed,
it's pretty much useless junk at this point. Many of these cranks
sold on Ebay without the extractor bolts have stripped threads
from attempting to use a regular crank arm puller on them. These
cranks require a special left hand thread on one of the crank
arms. Finding either the tool or the bolts is very difficult.

_ Booker C. Bense

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Booker C. Bense said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Scott said:

I have an old Campy Victory crank that I'm using on a road bike I'm
building for my daughter. Does anyone know where I can get

inexpensive

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

chainrings in 116 bcd? Looking for something like a 50/36.

_ Ebay is the only source I've found. This guy had a bunch
at one point, but seems to only have the larger 53/52 sizes
at the moment.

http://stores.ebay.com/WWCyclery-Bicycle-Components

_ This site claims to have them, but I've not had much luck
contacting them. I didn't try very hard though.

http://www.bicycleclassics.com/

_ In the long run, it's probably a lot cheaper to just switch to
110 BCD, despite the prettiness of the Victory cranks. Finding a
50 tooth ring in that size is going to be next to impossible, I
doubt they were ever made. I've only ever seen 36,42,52 and 53.

_ There's also the problem of the extracter threads. If yours
doesn't have the auto-extracter crank bolts already installed,
it's pretty much useless junk at this point. Many of these cranks
sold on Ebay without the extractor bolts have stripped threads
from attempting to use a regular crank arm puller on them. These
cranks require a special left hand thread on one of the crank
arms. Finding either the tool or the bolts is very difficult.

_ Booker C. Bense

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Thank you both for your replies. I will try Bicycle Classics. And yes,
I have the original extractor bolts.

Booker C. Bense said:

_ This site claims to have them, but I've not had much luck
contacting them. I didn't try very hard though.

http://www.bicycleclassics.com/

_ In the long run, it's probably a lot cheaper to just switch to
110 BCD, despite the prettiness of the Victory cranks. Finding a
50 tooth ring in that size is going to be next to impossible, I
doubt they were ever made. I've only ever seen 36,42,52 and 53.

I had either a 50 or a 51, probably a 51, on mine. And a 35 inner ring.

Quoted message said:

_ There's also the problem of the extracter threads. If yours
doesn't have the auto-extracter crank bolts already installed,
it's pretty much useless junk at this point.

Also, said bolts are junk as well. They used left-hand threads on the
crank, so finding a puller is well-nigh impossible. The extractor bolts
are flimsy. Mine both were only partly functional at the time I gave
up on them.

--

David L. Johnson

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_`\(,_ | assure you that mine are all greater. -- A. Einstein
(_)/ (_) |

wwcyclery on ebay has the very best prices on 116 bcd rings, I think
they are $9.95 for a 36 tooth ring, and maybe $12.95 for a 52T ring.
I have bought items from wwcyclery MANY times, Wandering Wheels
Cyclery of wisconsin is a reputable place that has been in business
for decades. Their specialty is to stocking small Campagnolo parts at
closeout prices.

On the other hand, bicycle classics is also a very reputable place run
by Greg Parker in Ann Arbor Michigan. If you had trouble dealing with
Bicycle Classics in the past (2-10 years ago), its good to know that
Greg took over about 18 months ago and is doing a very find job of
running the place. I bought items from him 12 months ago and did a
partial return and he handled all the transactions patiently and
admirably.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Scott said:

I have an old Campy Victory crank that I'm using on a road bike I'm
building for my daughter. Does anyone know where I can get

inexpensive

Quoted message said:

chainrings in 116 bcd? Looking for something like a 50/36.

Thanks
Scott

Our supplier has some of these, call us, number below

(303)440-3535

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Booker C. Bense said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Scott said:

I have an old Campy Victory crank that I'm using on a road bike I'm
building for my daughter. Does anyone know where I can get inexpensive
chainrings in 116 bcd? Looking for something like a 50/36.

_ In the long run, it's probably a lot cheaper to just switch to
110 BCD, despite the prettiness of the Victory cranks. Finding a
50 tooth ring in that size is going to be next to impossible, I
doubt they were ever made. I've only ever seen 36,42,52 and 53.

_ Booker C. Bense

I've got 50/38 on mine. If you were just around the corner, you could
have them for $5, but shipping is gonna cost more than they're worth
if you're not in the London (UK) area.

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

Victory and Triomphe cranks are nice cranks and they are extremely
cheap. I got mine for $10. I could sell the chainring bolts in my
crankset for $20. So I basically paid $-10 for my crankset.

A previous email claimed they had a weird threading. I got out my
triomphe crank last night and ran my 22mm sugino puller into both
sides, and these cranks are fully compatible with today's standard
tools.

These cranks can also be made into nice triples just by purchasing
longer chainring bolts. A 52-42-36 is easily possible. I think that
www.biketoolsetc.com has some triplizing chainring bolts for this
purpose at $5 per set.

The cranks are polished (not anodized) so you can make them look shiny
and new again if they get scuffed up. It's one of the only cranksets
that campagnolo ever made that wasn't anodized.

I understand completely why he wants to use these great cranks.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Donald Gillies said:

Victory and Triomphe cranks are nice cranks and they are extremely
cheap. I got mine for $10. I could sell the chainring bolts in my
crankset for $20. So I basically paid $-10 for my crankset.

A previous email claimed they had a weird threading. I got out my
triomphe crank last night and ran my 22mm sugino puller into both
sides, and these cranks are fully compatible with today's standard
tools.

I think the thread started out talking about Victory cranks, which,
IIRC, used the left-hand thread extractor. The Triomphe were identical,
except they used right-hand extractor threads.

(I'm sure Peter will correct me if I'm wrong.)

Beyond that, and the unique bolt pattern, they're quite nice cranks.

Jeff

Donald Gillies said:

Victory and Triomphe cranks are nice cranks and they are extremely
cheap. I got mine for $10. I could sell the chainring bolts in my
crankset for $20. So I basically paid $-10 for my crankset.

A previous email claimed they had a weird threading. I got out my
triomphe crank last night and ran my 22mm sugino puller into both
sides, and these cranks are fully compatible with today's standard
tools.

Believe me, my Victory cranks had left-hand threads on the cranks, so you
do need a special puller once the self-extracting bolts fail.

Quoted message said:

The cranks are polished (not anodized) so you can make them look shiny
and new again if they get scuffed up. It's one of the only cranksets
that campagnolo ever made that wasn't anodized.

I believe the older cranks (anything older than the Victory/Triumph for
sure) all were polished.

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Quoted message said:

Donald Gillies said:

Victory and Triomphe cranks are nice cranks and they are extremely
cheap. I got mine for $10. I could sell the chainring bolts in my
crankset for $20. So I basically paid $-10 for my crankset.

A previous email claimed they had a weird threading. I got out my
triomphe crank last night and ran my 22mm sugino puller into both
sides, and these cranks are fully compatible with today's standard
tools.

Believe me, my Victory cranks had left-hand threads on the cranks, so you
do need a special puller once the self-extracting bolts fail.

According to Campy Catalog n.18bis, both the C-Record Corsa and the Victory
cranksets had the same Screw with incorporated extractor, p/n 2350001. (p.
40). That means both the Victory crank had a left-hand thread and required
a left-handed extractor tool like the one here:

http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=770+Crank+Extractor&vendorCode=CAMP&major=6&minor=4

Donald Gillies said:

Victory and Triomphe cranks are nice cranks and they are extremely
cheap. I got mine for $10. I could sell the chainring bolts in my
crankset for $20. So I basically paid $-10 for my crankset.

A previous email claimed they had a weird threading. I got out my
triomphe crank last night and ran my 22mm sugino puller into both
sides, and these cranks are fully compatible with today's standard
tools.

Victory had the left threaded, self extractor.

Quoted message said:

These cranks can also be made into nice triples just by purchasing
longer chainring bolts. A 52-42-36 is easily possible. I think that
www.biketoolsetc.com has some triplizing chainring bolts for this
purpose at $5 per set.

The cranks are polished (not anodized) so you can make them look

shiny

Quoted message said:

and new again if they get scuffed up. It's one of the only cranksets
that campagnolo ever made that wasn't anodized.

I understand completely why he wants to use these great cranks.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA