15/16/15 spokes`

(Jjjust joe) said:

I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage, etc. I am
building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not to use 15/16/15? joe

They wind up more easilly. Sounds like you've been fine with straight 15, what problem are you
trying to solve?

You can economize on weight by using 14/15/14 on drive side and lacing
3x. Then use 15 ga laced 2x elsewhere. You'll save about 7 mm /spoke.

Jjjust joe said:

I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage, etc. I am
building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not

to

Quoted message said:

use 15/16/15?

No. Go for it.

Art

"Jjjust joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage, etc. I am
building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not

to

Quoted message said:

use 15/16/15? joe

That's the size Jobst uses... he has something like 200,000 miles on a set (and going).

Jjjust Joe-<< I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage,
etc. I am building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not to use 15/16/15? >><BR><BR>

All other things being equal, double butted spokes make a more durable wheel...but I like
14/15..but-
15/16 will work as well, pick your rim and number of spokes wisely..

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You really believe that 200k b.s?

Do the math. Even if those wheels are 20 years old, that's 10k miles a year. For 5 days a week, 50
weeks a year, that's 40 miles a day, each and every day. That's 40 miles each day with no pot-holes,
no riding in the rain (it gets grit on the rims increasing the wear rate when braking), no
accidents, no car doors...

Jobst belongs to the same school as a plant service engineer I used to know. "I've had this same
hammer for over 30 years" he proudly said. He then went on to say "It's had 3 new heads and 5 new
handles, but it's still the same hammer". His idea of a joke.

Andrew Lee said:

"Jjjust joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage, etc. I am
building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not

to

Quoted message said:

use 15/16/15? joe

That's the size Jobst uses... he has something like 200,000 miles on a set (and going).

bent said:

Andrew Lee said:

"Jjjust joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

use 15/16/15?

That's the size Jobst uses... he has something like 200,000 miles on a set (and going).

You really believe that 200k b.s? Do the math. Even if those wheels are 20 years old, that's 10k
miles a year. For 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year, that's 40 miles a day, each and every day.

It's not split up like that. I clock 5,000 miles a year commuting - if I also went on Jobst's annual
Alpine trip, I'd be clocking 10,000 miles a year with one thing and another.

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That's 40 miles each day with no pot-holes, no riding in the rain (it gets grit on the rims
increasing the wear rate when braking), no accidents, no car doors...

You are not aware that this claim is only about the spokes, I see.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!

In article said:

I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage, etc. I am
building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not to use 15/16/15?

Advantages of straight gauge are price, and ability to cut and rethread the spoke to any length.

Butted is usually the better choice.

--Paul

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage, etc. I am
building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not to use 15/16/15?

Nope. That's what I use on all the wheels I build for myself.
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Alex __O _-\<,_ (_)/ (_)

bent said:

You really believe that 200k b.s?

In this reply, I'm only going to discuss the *ullshit below:

Quoted message said:

Do the math. Even if those wheels are 20 years old, that's 10k miles a year. For 5 days a week, 50
weeks a year, that's 40 miles a day, each and every day. That's 40 miles each day with no
pot-holes, no riding in the rain (it gets grit on the rims increasing the wear rate when braking),
no accidents, no car doors...

I believe Jobst has repeatedly advocated reusing the spokes from an old wheel, and it's reasonable
to assume that this is what has been done to achieve that 200k. As such, there's nothing really
wrong with the math above, but it's pointless. Ten thousands miles a year is perfectly doable for an
active cyclist living somewhere, where you can ride all year.

-as

(Jjjust joe) said:

I have been riding strait gage 15 ga spokes for 10 + year. No problems, no breakage, etc. I am
building a new set of wheels. Is there any reason not to use 15/16/15?

I have had fine luck with that gauge of spokes, and I am very hard on wheels.

You will want to use at least the same number of spokes per wheel that you do with straight 15
gauge, so that the per-spoke tension does not go too high.

Chalo Colina