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2003 RockShox SID Issues

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  1. Chris Phillipo wrote:
    |||| I'm getting damned sick and tired of this "Google it" attitude on Usenet. If you don't feel
    |||| it's worth your time to answer *a freaking question* then don't waste your time telling people
    |||| to fool with a search engine.
    ||||
    ||| What's that word that is used so much on this group, wait, oh yeah, "I-R-O-N-Y". Yeah, what is
    ||| so ironic, is that the people who are the observed experts (yeah right) of this group are
    ||| usually the ones who make baseless opinions about prouducts but never seem to offer any proof
    ||| backing up their opinion, other then to go check Google and an insult for using that product.
    ||| What's really ironic and hypocritical are those who refer to mtbreview.com users as "etards",
    ||| but, at the same time, those individuals regularly visit their discussion groups and post
    ||| pictures on the website.
    ||
    || Part of the reason I don't often post or read this group any more is that I either have to
    || killfile or ignore so many regular posters because they have this smug notion that they are God's
    || gift to mountain biking and their opinion (opinion, not knowledge) is the only one that matters.
    ||
    ||
    |
    | Why Rock Shox sucks, the condensed version:
    |
    | Strike 1 Rock Shox uses oil in their shocks, but not for lubrication, they use a shot glass or
    | less full of it for damping. To lube a Rock Shox requires taking it apart and gently rubbing it
    | with $5/oz lube that looks striking like the $5/Kg stuff at Walmart. Proper forks are filled with
    | oil, the oil both cleans and lubricates as well as providing the damping medium. A shock should
    | need service once or twice a year and last 6 years + with no degradation in performance. I believe
    | the last time I picked up a Rockshox manual it recommended removing the legs every 20 hours of use
    | and giving it a hand job.
    |
    | Strike 2 Rock Shox puts an unholy emphasis on lightness and gimmicks. Some of their latest
    | "innovations" in the last 5 years are raised lettering on their lowers, spaghetti like arches and
    | a plastic knob that lets you choose how much slop you want between the stanchions and sliders.
    |
    | Strike 3 Rock Shox noticed that their forks never leak oil, so they decided to save a few pennies
    | per fork by no longer supplying oil seals, just dust wipers. They said that their dust wipers are
    | so magical that oil seals were redundant. See strike #1 for the real reason the forks do not leak
    | oil but do collect every bit of debris that comes their way.
    |
    | Sorry I didn't elaberate in my first post.

    On behalf of those who do use RS products, I thank you

    Nelson<--Long time user of Manitou products

  2. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    [email hidden] (Carl Fogel) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

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    I can't say whether it's your charming style or your detailed content that's more convincing.

    Stick to being a faceless internet "authority" on technical issues, carl.

    Carl wasn't trying to be any kind of authority on anything, it was actually you that stated the
    SID was a piece of [censored], and people simply want to know why. I think that's fair enough, so, if
    you can't back up your contribution, why make one?

    To bring humpers like yourself out of the woodwork.

  3. [email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Carl Fogel) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

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    I can't say whether it's your charming style or your detailed content that's more convincing.

    Stick to being a faceless internet "authority" on technical issues, carl.

    Carl wasn't trying to be any kind of authority on anything, it was actually you that stated the
    SID was a piece of [censored], and people simply want to know why. I think that's fair enough, so, if
    you can't back up your contribution, why make one?

    Get off of my leg, mutt.

    JD

  4. "The Nelson Paradigm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    | "The Nelson Paradigm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]-
    | berlin.de>...
    || Robin Hubert wrote:
    ||| There's a pleasant personality. How's it goin', "JD"?
    |||
    |||
    ||| "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ||| "]news:[email hidden]...
    |||| [email hidden] scrawled in crayon:
    ||||
    ||||| JD <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |||||| The rocksux sad is not high maintenance, it's simply a piece of [censored].

    ||||| A worthless post.
    ||||
    |||| Nah, the OP had the worthless post. If they had half of a brain and decided to Google their
    |||| question, it would have been answered many times over.
    ||||
    ||||| How about some specific things to watch our for?
    ||||
    |||| Grow more grey matter and Google it, fool.
    ||
    || <snip>
    ||
    || I'm getting damned sick and tired of this "Google it" attitude on Usenet. If you don't feel
    || it's worth your time to answer *a freaking question* then don't waste your time telling people
    || to fool with a search engine.
    ||
    | What's that word that is used so much on this group, wait, oh yeah, "I-R-O-N-Y". Yeah, what is
    | so ironic, is that the people who are the observed experts (yeah right) of this group are
    | usually the ones who make baseless opinions about prouducts but never seem to offer any proof
    | backing up their opinion, other then to go check Google and an insult for using that product.
    | What's really ironic and hypocritical are those who refer to mtbreview.com users as "etards",
    | but, at the same time, those individuals regularly visit their discussion groups and post
    | pictures on the website.

    Part of the reason I don't often post or read this group any more is that I either have to
    killfile or ignore so many regular posters because they have this smug notion that they are God's
    gift to mountain biking and their opinion (opinion, not knowledge) is the only one that matters.

    Are you kidding? Miles is GOD. Or something. No human can take a fall like that and walk away.

  5. "The Nelson Paradigm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Part of the reason I don't often post or read this group any more is that I either have to
    killfile or ignore so many regular posters because they have this smug notion that they are God's
    gift to mountain biking and their opinion (opinion, not knowledge) is the only one that matters.

    That's funny, especially coming from a sloth. It must really pain you to think that someone who
    actually rides mountain bikes on world class trails about 300 days a year might actually know much
    more than you may profess to.

    Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

    JD

  6. JD wrote:
    | "The Nelson Paradigm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]-
    | berlin.de>...
    || Part of the reason I don't often post or read this group any more is that I either have to
    || killfile or ignore so many regular posters because they have this smug notion that they are God's
    || gift to mountain biking and their opinion (opinion, not knowledge) is the only one that matters.
    |
    | That's funny, especially coming from a sloth. It must really pain you to think that someone who
    | actually rides mountain bikes on world class trails about 300 days a year might actually know much
    | more than you may profess to.
    |
    | Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
    |
    | JD

    Maybe one of these days you'll have a bone disease that is eating away at your ankles, making it
    almost impossible to even *walk* some days JD. Then you'll know the real meaning of being a "sloth."

    Also, the above comment was not aimed at you.

  7. On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:37:37 -0500, "The Nelson Paradigm"
    <[email hidden]> whined once again:

    Quoted message said:

    Part of the reason I don't often post or read this group any more is


    that I

    Quoted message said:

    either have to killfile or ignore so many regular posters because


    they have

    Quoted message said:

    this smug notion that they are God's gift to mountain biking and


    their

    Quoted message said:

    opinion (opinion, not knowledge) is the only one that matters.

    Fact:

    You have proven your idiocy time and again by posting your opinions (worship actually) for the old
    stand by myths of straight gauge spokes build better wheels, never greasing tapers, and steel
    frames go soft.

    The sad part remains that your customers are being fed this pap instead of valid information. You
    should be ashamed of yourself yet you continue to ignore the facts and continue to whine while
    proclaiming these facts are mere opinion.

    p.s. You do understand that you posted to two newsgrousp instead of one, right?

  8. P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
    | On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:37:37 -0500, "The Nelson Paradigm" <[email hidden]> whined
    | once again:
    |
    |
    || Part of the reason I don't often post or read this group any more is that I either have to
    || killfile or ignore so many regular posters because they have this smug notion that they are God's
    || gift to mountain biking and their opinion (opinion, not knowledge) is the only one that matters.
    |
    | Fact:
    |
    | You have proven your idiocy time and again by posting your opinions (worship actually) for the old
    | stand by myths of straight gauge spokes build better wheels, never greasing tapers, and steel
    | frames go soft.
    |
    | The sad part remains that your customers are being fed this pap instead of valid information. You
    | should be ashamed of yourself yet you continue to ignore the facts and continue to whine while
    | proclaiming these facts are mere opinion.

    Kiss my ass Fagerlin. Your bull$hit is the main reason good people up and leave groups like this.

  9. "The Nelson Paradigm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    I'm getting damned sick and tired of this "Google it" attitude on Usenet.

    Why? The info is out there, and it seems quite simple to go out and find it.

    Quoted message said:

    If you don't feel it's worth your time to answer *a freaking question* then don't waste your time
    telling people to fool with a search engine.

    Search engines are wonderful things. If you know how to operate them, you can get very specific
    answers to esoteric questions. In addition, it gives you a base of knowledge to come back and appear
    as though you have tried to find your own answer, which is a good thing, since you are then going to
    ask a bunch of strangers to give up their time to read and type a response. For free.

    Quoted message said:

    You know what, I can't stand using Google or any other search for that matter.

    Sounds like a personal problem. Your inability to use the technology does not reduce its usefulness.

    Quoted message said:

    Enter almost anything into it and you get thousands of responses to sift through.

    Not if you know how to use the advanced functions properly.

    Quoted message said:

    It take far less of my time to post a simple question and check back later and see if somebody
    has been *kind* enough to answer.

    That's the lazy, selfish way - you are quite correct. If a question has been asked and answered a
    dozen times before, what good is re-iteration? Other than to save *you* some time and effort?

    It's this same attitude that leads to top-posting.
    --
    Jonesy

  10. The Nelson Paradigm said:

    Maybe one of these days you'll have a bone disease that is eating away at your ankles, making it
    almost impossible to even *walk* some days JD.

    Shame it didn't start at the wrists, really.

    The last thing any Usenet group needs is the kind of person who thinks it's such a terrible effort
    to spend 30 seconds with a search engine that they must waste far more of other people's time with
    obvious questions.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!

  11. P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
    | On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:37:37 -0500, "The Nelson Paradigm" <[email hidden]> whined
    | once again:
    |
    |
    || Part of the reason I don't often post or read this group any more is that I either have to
    || killfile or ignore so many regular posters because they have this smug notion that they are God's
    || gift to mountain biking and their opinion (opinion, not knowledge) is the only one that matters.
    |
    | Fact:
    |
    | You have proven your idiocy time and again by posting your opinions (worship actually) for the old
    | stand by myths of straight gauge spokes build better wheels, never greasing tapers, and steel
    | frames go soft.
    |
    | The sad part remains that your customers are being fed this pap instead of valid information. You
    | should be ashamed of yourself yet you continue to ignore the facts and continue to whine while
    | proclaiming these facts are mere opinion.
    |
    | p.s. You do understand that you posted to two newsgrousp instead of one, right?

    Fagerlin, you're the only one who keeps bringing this [censored] up time and time again. I didn't even
    mention them, I just registered my complaint about the *attitude* in here. If you don't want to be
    bothered with a question, then shut up and move on.

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