2007 King Kikapu - chain stuck

Sounds like chain suck - possible problem between the chainring & the chain? ie: it doesn't disengage. Other problems could be [censored] on the chain or extra sticky lube, however probably not in your case with a new bike.

http://www.mtbbritain.co.uk/chain_suck.html

Ivan said:

I recently got a 2007 King Kikapu, which has been great,
except for one thing: the chain keeps getting caught up in the
chain stay. The first time this happened was 5 minutes after I
bought it. I had to yank it back out, scraping the paintwork
in the process (that hurt).

Whereabouts along the chain stay is this happening? Is the
chain jaming between the chainstay and something else (what
else)?

Is the chain "derailing" from a sprocket or chainwheel when this
happens?

Does it happen when, or immediately after, you change to a
particular sprocket or chainwheel (or particular
sprocket/chainwheel pair)? If so, which one, or which
combination?

John

cfsmtb said:

Sounds like chain suck - possible problem between the chainring & the
chain?

Sounds more like a badly adjusted front derailleur, or a too long BB.
Chainsuck is where the bottom of the chain won't release from the
chainring, and needs a fairly old and/or dirty drivetrain to happen.

It could also be rider error - if you've got your bike in the granny ring
and a fairly small sprocket at the back, it won't have much tension and
it'll be fairly easy for the chain to bounce into that gap.

Most MTBs will drop the chain there every now and then on a dodgy shift.
If it's doing it regularly then there's something out of whack.

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cfsmtb said:

Sounds like chain suck - possible problem between the chainring & the
chain?

Sounds more like a badly adjusted front derailleur, or a too long BB.
Chainsuck is where the bottom of the chain won't release from the
chainring, and needs a fairly old and/or dirty drivetrain to happen.

It could also be rider error - if you've got your bike in the granny ring
and a fairly small sprocket at the back, it won't have much tension and
it'll be fairly easy for the chain to bounce into that gap.

Most MTBs will drop the chain there every now and then on a dodgy shift.
If it's doing it regularly then there's something out of whack.

My OCR3 was doing it fairly regularly (people will tell me it was my
fault for going soft and not getting rid of the triple, but there'd be
no way I'd get up Blackburn's hill or axle hill now if I had taken
their advice) from since it was brand new -- changing from top to
middle, or middle to bottom with the rear cogs in the top half (I'd
never cross the chain from small to small) would skip once a ride or
so. It'd of course happen more often whenever I changed
simultaneously with the rear, but I don't think that's an invalid
move, right? I had played with the derailleur, and I had it adjusted
laterally between all extremes that make sense -- I didn't play with
height through, but the height made sense as well.

In the end, the only thing that hasn't made me look back was getting
the deda fang, even if it is fitted in a very dodgy way given that it
wasn't the right size. Haven't had it come off since.

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On 2006-11-27, Dave Hughes (aka Bruce)
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Quoted message said:

cfsmtb said:

Sounds like chain suck - possible problem between the chainring & the
chain?

Sounds more like a badly adjusted front derailleur, or a too long BB.
Chainsuck is where the bottom of the chain won't release from the
chainring, and needs a fairly old and/or dirty drivetrain to happen.

It could also be rider error - if you've got your bike in the granny ring
and a fairly small sprocket at the back, it won't have much tension and
it'll be fairly easy for the chain to bounce into that gap.

Most MTBs will drop the chain there every now and then on a dodgy shift.
If it's doing it regularly then there's something out of whack.

My OCR3 was doing it fairly regularly (people will tell me it was my
fault for going soft and not getting rid of the triple, but there'd be
no way I'd get up Blackburn's hill or axle hill now if I had taken
their advice) from since it was brand new -- changing from top to
middle, or middle to bottom with the rear cogs in the top half (I'd
never cross the chain from small to small) would skip once a ride or
so. It'd of course happen more often whenever I changed
simultaneously with the rear, but I don't think that's an invalid
move, right? I had played with the derailleur, and I had it adjusted
laterally between all extremes that make sense -- I didn't play with
height through, but the height made sense as well.

In the end, the only thing that hasn't made me look back was getting
the deda fang, even if it is fitted in a very dodgy way given that it
wasn't the right size. Haven't had it come off since.

My front derailleur was a bit iffy as well in that I couldn't shift up to
the big ring unless I was in the top couple of rear cogs. I'm enjoying
having friction shift now, not that I'd got that way on the rear!

Ivan said:

Hi all,

I recently got a 2007 King Kikapu, which has been great, except for one
thing: the chain keeps getting caught up in the chain stay. The first
time this happened was 5 minutes after I bought it. I had to yank it
back out, scraping the paintwork in the process (that hurt).

I happened about 4 more times in my first off-road ride. I brought it
back to the shop and they contacted Kona. However, Kona reckons it was
down to "rider error" and didn't have any more suggestions. The bike
shop wrapped the chain-stay with an old inner tube and said that should
sort it out.

The only problem is it has happened again, and now it's a real pain to
yank it out with the inner tube in the way.

Has anyone else experienced this problem with the Kikapu?

Ivan

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