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  1. I've notice my appetite has been increasing. Even though I'm staying within
    my carb limit, about 20~25/day, I'm making worse choices, such as too much
    cheese, more mayo in the salad and so on. My weight seems to have crept-up
    just a little over the past week, too. (Maybe meaningless, but could be an
    indicator.)

    I did a 2.5 day meat fast about a month ago. It greatly reduced my hunger
    levels and really brought things into check. Am thinking it might be a good
    idea. Am open to comments and/or other suggestions.

    Thanks!

  2. em said:


    I've notice my appetite has been increasing. Even though I'm staying within
    my carb limit, about 20~25/day, I'm making worse choices, such as too much
    cheese, more mayo in the salad and so on. My weight seems to have crept-up
    just a little over the past week, too. (Maybe meaningless, but could be an
    indicator.)

    Increased appetite tends to be caused by higher glycemic foods
    (you do mention worse choices) to trigger short insulin swings,
    by specific intolerance foods to trigger addictive behavior patterns
    (that can be subtle through obvious so maybe one of those worse
    choices is a "slippery slope food" for you), or insufficient total
    calories fat or protein.

    Have you ever had dairy problems? Colic as a baby if you have
    older relatives who can remember? At some point you will
    eventually want to go a week or two dairy free then reintroduce
    it. If you free suddenly worse in some way, then dairy becomes
    an intolerance suspect. Otherwise one of your worse choices
    is the suspect and the farther along the carb ladder it is the more
    likely it is the cause.

    But consider another possibility - Setting aside physical causes,
    what's the chance it is psychological? Old habits die hard.
    Maybe your yearning for the fjords is really yearning for your
    old food types expressing itself as vague appetite. If so then
    continuing as you have progressed without reaction is the way
    to go. That's my vote - That you're doing great and this is an old
    habit fighting for control.

    Quoted message said:

    I did a 2.5 day meat fast about a month ago. It greatly reduced my hunger
    levels and really brought things into check. Am thinking it might be a good
    idea. Am open to comments and/or other suggestions.

    It won't hurt, but that's what the list of allowed foods for Induction
    is supposed to do.

  3. I'm a push-over for the Atkins "Fat Fast."

    "em" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've notice my appetite has been increasing. Even though I'm staying
    within my carb limit, about 20~25/day, I'm making worse choices, such as
    too much cheese, more mayo in the salad and so on. My weight seems to have
    crept-up just a little over the past week, too. (Maybe meaningless, but
    could be an indicator.)

    I did a 2.5 day meat fast about a month ago. It greatly reduced my hunger
    levels and really brought things into check. Am thinking it might be a
    good idea. Am open to comments and/or other suggestions.

    Thanks!

  4. em said:

    I've notice my appetite has been increasing. Even though I'm staying
    within my carb limit, about 20~25/day, I'm making worse choices,
    such as too much cheese, more mayo in the salad and so on. My weight
    seems to have crept-up just a little over the past week, too. (Maybe
    meaningless, but could be an indicator.)

    Mayo shouldn't hurt, although you have to watch out for added sugar.
    Sometimes it can be 1g/serving, which can add up when you're making
    salads with it. When you say "about 20-25/day", how precise is that?
    If that could be sneaking up over 30 or so, you could simply be eating
    too many carbs. Weight change over a single week is pretty
    meaningless, though, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

    I don't know how far along you are; if you're just starting the plan
    or have been on it a while. At the beginning, if your appetite
    increases, don't worry about it. Eat when you're hungry until
    satisfied, keep it safely low-carb, and give your body time to
    adjust. Appetite almost always retreats back to normal or less once
    you settle into the plan, especially if you get plenty of fat.

    Quoted message said:

    I did a 2.5 day meat fast about a month ago. It greatly reduced my
    hunger levels and really brought things into check. Am thinking it
    might be a good idea. Am open to comments and/or other suggestions.

    Well, it's probably not necessary at this point, but it's not going to
    hurt anything. Maybe doing something different will be a mental boost
    you need; who knows.

    --
    Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

  5. Aaron Baugher said:


    I don't know how far along you are; if you're just starting the plan
    or have been on it a while. At the beginning, if your appetite
    increases, don't worry about it. Eat when you're hungry until
    satisfied, keep it safely low-carb, and give your body time to
    adjust. Appetite almost always retreats back to normal or less once
    you settle into the plan, especially if you get plenty of fat.

    Heck, not even that new to the plan for some. I've been low
    carbing since 1999 and it still happens for me. A day here
    and there with much greater appetite than usual, a day here
    and there where I eat a little at each meal and lose interest.
    It doesn't happen as much but it still happens.

    Times I've counted calories I've become convinced that with
    calories what matters isn't the daily count but an average
    across the last week or longer.

  6. "Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Have you ever had dairy problems? Colic as a baby if you have
    older relatives who can remember? At some point you will
    eventually want to go a week or two dairy free then reintroduce
    it.

    I have a problem with cheeses and stuff. Like 'em too much & really have to
    watch myself. This is something I'll really have to watch. As I've been
    adding a few carbs and loosening up, I should be adding more veggies, not
    sour cream and stuff like that. Thanks for the pointer. I don't know if
    that's what you were getting at, but I think you may have hit the nail on
    the head.

  7. "Aaron Baugher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    em said:

    I've notice my appetite has been increasing. Even though I'm staying
    within my carb limit, about 20~25/day, I'm making worse choices,
    such as too much cheese, more mayo in the salad and so on. My weight
    seems to have crept-up just a little over the past week, too. (Maybe
    meaningless, but could be an indicator.)

    Mayo shouldn't hurt, although you have to watch out for added sugar.

    I think too much mayo, or anything, can be a problem. Calories do count at
    some point.

  8. em said:

    "Aaron Baugher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "em" <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've notice my appetite has been increasing. Even though I'm staying
    within my carb limit, about 20~25/day, I'm making worse choices,
    such as too much cheese, more mayo in the salad and so on. My weight
    seems to have crept-up just a little over the past week, too. (Maybe
    meaningless, but could be an indicator.)

    Quoted message said:

    Mayo shouldn't hurt, although you have to watch out for added sugar.

    I think too much mayo, or anything, can be a problem. Calories do count at
    some point.

    If you have a lot to lose and are at the start, the calories don't
    count as much.
    Doc Eades has a post about this on his blog from the past week.
    www.proteinpower.com/drmike
    I think that's the link to his blog. At any rate, if you are close to
    goal, maybe
    a few extra calories from mayo is your problem. But if you have weight
    to lose,
    I wouldn't worry about it. I'd focus on the carbs and, if you're doing
    protein
    power, getting adequate protein.

  9. em said:

    "Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Have you ever had dairy problems? Colic as a baby if you have
    older relatives who can remember? At some point you will
    eventually want to go a week or two dairy free then reintroduce
    it.

    I have a problem with cheeses and stuff. Like 'em too much & really have to
    watch myself. This is something I'll really have to watch. As I've been
    adding a few carbs and loosening up, I should be adding more veggies, not
    sour cream and stuff like that. Thanks for the pointer. I don't know if
    that's what you were getting at, but I think you may have hit the nail on
    the head.

    The idea is food intolerances can cause cravings. In other words
    eat an intolerance food and you become more hungry not less
    hungry independent of its carb count. If your problem with cheeses
    is you overeat it's possible you're dairy intolerant.

    Note that at one point before I low carbed I suspected I had a
    problem with dairy. I overeat too much of high dairy meals. Turns
    out I had ignored the fact they were always high wheat meals so
    when I ate cheese on its own that didn't happen.

    Atkins Induction is intended to clear out all of the most common
    food intolerances, but it has two exceptions. Enough people are
    dairy or egg intolerant without knowing it.

    You're still early in. A couple of months in trying going dairy
    free for a couple of weeks then add dairy back in. Then you'll
    find out if dairy is a problem for you.

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