36er spokes?

I think Tom Miller of the Unicycle factory sells the spokes.

You could probably get you spokes shortened at a bike shop but I would
want the lighter, shinyer (and possibly stronger) 14G stainless spokes
with that new rim you are getting.

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Have you tried the calculations for lacing it 4-cross instead? When i
bought SS spokes I was told they would lace up 3 cross for an old steel
coker rim, or 4 cross on an airfoil (I did the later).

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Thanks I didn't think I would get an answer. The thing is that the guy
building the thing right now phoned me today and told me this, meaning
he has it already apart and in pieces. He told me I def need new
spokes. He actually said the wheel build that I already had was done
totally wrong. He said the spokes were even a bit too long for my old
rim and that they actually were already pretty loose.

So now I am really not sure what to do. I think I will contact the
unicycle factory and find out.

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kington99 said:

Have you tried the calculations for lacing it 4-cross instead? When i
bought SS spokes I was told they would lace up 3 cross for an old steel
coker rim, or 4 cross on an airfoil (I did the later).

Hmm i will ask about that thanks a lot. Maybe he doesn;t know about
that. I'm unsure what my old wheel had though as it was not a coker
rim but a double wall UDC steel rim that came with the Nimbus SE.

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Yep, 4-cross is what you need.

The length that works for 3-cross on coker rim works with 4-cross on an
airfoil, and presumably the nightrider rim.

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Well If you guys just gave me the info i needed to solve this case
without any cash-shed then thank you once again unicyclist community.
I had the answer i needed mere minutes after posting.

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I can help you calculate the proper spoke length if you want.
What's the diameter of the spoke holes on your hub?
And what's the distance between your flanges?

For my high-flange hub wheel builds, which require shorter spokes, I
buy the standard 14g spokes from UDC, cut them down to length, and take
them to a LBS that has a spoke threader. I realize you may not have
such a shop, but at least know what the proper lengths are for a
3-cross and a 4-cross pattern.
Pete

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Hey thanks Pete. The whole Uni is at the shop now and I am leaving it
there until i get spokes... maybe someone else around here has those
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this might help

'UDC.uk spoke calculator' (http://www.unicycle.uk.com/SpokeCalc.asp)

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Nice find Eric!

However, I plugged in a couple of my wheels already built, and the
stated result was 4mm too long on each. Might want to double check.

Some of the discrepancy: The Schlumpf hub / Airfoil combo is listed as
359mm spokes for 3x. That hub is spec'd as having a 91mm spoke hole
diameter, but I get 93 on mine. And my wheel uses 355mm spokes, even
with 14g nipple washers to help spread the load.

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I would like to take this occasion to ask: how tight should the spokes
on a 36" be? Is it possible to tighten them like on a 20" due to its
size or should they be a bit springy?

Sorry for thread jacking, i just cant afford to open a new thread with
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In my experience with long 14g stainless spokes, you can still tension
them pretty darn tight, and should. When properly built, you can
squeeze pairs of spokes with your hand and deform them just a bit. They
should not feel springy or loose at all.

However, there is a point at which the (relatively soft) stainless
steel will actually stretch and lose tension. Usually the one in
particular that you happen to be tightening. When that happens, the rim
will deform significantly, and the spoke is shot. Best to loosen all
the spokes, replace the stretched one, and try again. Stainless is a
finicky metal, and the long spoke length makes it more difficult to hit
the best tension without going over.

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unisk8r said:

However, there is a point at which the (relatively soft) stainless
steel will actually stretch and lose tension.

Doesn't the strain hardening nature of SS mean that the tension will
actually increase well past yield, until UTS is reached?

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