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  1. Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run my
    first 10K on 03-May. Started training for it in late
    February and followed a training plan that advocated
    building up stamina through alternating short runs with
    breaks for walking and recovery, e.g. Run for 4 minutes,
    walk for 2 equals 6 minutes by 5 repetitions. After 2 weeks
    of this I did 'something' to my ankle so haven't felt able
    to run for the last 2 weeks. Went out today and managed
    10+2+8+2+6 (run 10, walk 2, run 8, etc.) Ankle feels OK

    Challenge: 4 weeks to go to the 10Kand I'm way off the
    training schedule,
    i.e. I should be running for 30 minutes without a break at
    this stage.

    Question: Any advice for how I should schedule the next 4
    weeks to be able to run 10K without a break. My goal for
    this race is completion - I don't have a target time.

    All advice appreciated.

  2. You just need to steadily build up to longer times
    (possibly by running at a slower pace). Don't make the
    mistake of pushing too hard or you run the risk of not
    being able to run at all. Be prepared to modify your goals
    if necessary. If the 10K is the one in the Phoenix Park you
    can expect hills. Building up from 10mins uninterrupted to
    1 hour or so within 4 weeks is quite a goal already. Add in
    the hills and it becomes a real challenge. You may need to
    walk some of the race.

    --
    Colm

    "feargalf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run my
    : first 10K on 03-May. Started training for it in late
    : February and followed a training plan that advocated
    : building up stamina through alternating short runs with
    : breaks for walking and recovery, e.g. Run for 4 minutes,
    : walk for 2 equals 6 minutes by 5 repetitions. After 2
    : weeks of this I did 'something' to my ankle so haven't
    : felt able to run for the last 2 weeks. Went out today and
    : managed 10+2+8+2+6 (run 10, walk 2, run 8, etc.) Ankle
    : feels OK
    :
    : Challenge: 4 weeks to go to the 10Kand I'm way off the
    : training schedule,
    : i.e. I should be running for 30 minutes without a break at
    : this stage.
    :
    : Question: Any advice for how I should schedule the next 4
    : weeks to be able to run 10K without a break. My goal for
    : this race is completion - I don't have a target time.
    :
    : All advice appreciated.
    :
    :

  3. Thanks Colm

    Hills ? Now they tell me !

    Walking some of the race is a possibility but I still choose
    to see the glass as half-full.

    "C.G." <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You just need to steadily build up to longer times
    (possibly by running at


    a slower pace). Don't

    Quoted message said:

    make the mistake of pushing too hard or you run the risk
    of not being able


    to run at all.

    Quoted message said:

    Be prepared to modify your goals if necessary. If the 10K
    is the one in


    the Phoenix Park you can

    Quoted message said:

    expect hills. Building up from 10mins uninterrupted to 1
    hour or so within


    4 weeks is quite a goal

    Quoted message said:

    already. Add in the hills and it becomes a real challenge.
    You may need to


    walk some of the race.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Colm

    "feargalf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    : Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run
    : my first 10K on 03-May. Started training for it in late
    : February and followed a training plan that advocated
    : building up stamina through alternating short runs


    with

    Quoted message said:

    : breaks for walking and recovery, e.g. Run for 4 minutes,
    : walk for 2


    equals 6

    Quoted message said:

    : minutes by 5 repetitions. After 2 weeks of this I did
    : 'something' to my ankle so haven't felt able to run for
    : the last 2 weeks. Went out today


    and

    Quoted message said:

    : managed 10+2+8+2+6 (run 10, walk 2, run 8, etc.) Ankle
    : feels OK
    :
    : Challenge: 4 weeks to go to the 10Kand I'm way off the
    : training


    schedule,

    Quoted message said:

    : i.e. I should be running for 30 minutes without a break
    : at this stage.
    :
    : Question: Any advice for how I should schedule the next
    : 4 weeks to be


    able

    Quoted message said:

    : to run 10K without a break. My goal for this race is
    : completion - I


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    : have a target time.
    :
    : All advice appreciated.
    :
    :

  4. feargalf said:

    Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run my
    first 10K on 03-May. Started training for it in late
    February and followed a training plan that advocated
    building up stamina through alternating short runs with
    breaks for walking and recovery, e.g. Run for 4 minutes,
    walk for 2 equals 6 minutes by 5 repetitions. After 2
    weeks of this I did 'something' to my ankle so haven't
    felt able to run for the last 2 weeks. Went out today and
    managed 10+2+8+2+6 (run 10, walk 2, run 8, etc.) Ankle
    feels OK

    Challenge: 4 weeks to go to the 10Kand I'm way off the
    training schedule,
    i.e. I should be running for 30 minutes without a break at
    this stage.

    Question: Any advice for how I should schedule the next 4
    weeks to be able to run 10K without a break. My goal for
    this race is completion - I don't have a target time.

    All advice appreciated.

    Let's look at the numbers (and I only have what you posted -
    no prior background information). You didn't indicate if you
    had any earlier running or fitness type background (like mt
    biking, xc skiing, etc). You didn't indicate approximately
    how far your present routine this gets you, but for a
    starting point, I'm going to guess you may take about 1 hr
    or so (give or take 10 min) for 10k. That means you're about
    half way (maybe less) there for duration. You're recovering
    from an injury that you seem to have gotten after only 2
    wks. A general rule of thumb is to not increase your "long"
    run or weekly duration (or mileage) more than 10% every
    other week - on average. Generally people may taper a week
    or so before a race, where they back off on the volume to
    recover. This may or may not be needed in your case. Only
    you know your recovery time.

    That is, you'll end up short on distance / duration almost
    any way you train using usual guidelines - which may or may
    not be appropriate.

    Is it only running that causes the problem? Can you walk
    longer? Is the topography you're training on similar to
    what the race will be - flat, hilly? (Hilly may take more
    energy but more forgiving of muscle overuse.) Are you out
    of breath when you take the walk break? If so, slowing down
    the run portion to a conversational pace may make things go
    more easily.

    If 30 min run/walk (or walk only) is a challenge for you now
    (not sure if it's aerobic conditioning or legs/feet being
    tired), you might want to consider a 10k later (or maybe a
    5k option if one is offered). Or if you can walk that
    distance / duration, then just continue building the
    run/walk as you've been doing (without the ankle injury),
    and wing it on race day with that same ratio. But if you're
    coming from a sedentary background with little other
    activity, I'm not sure that's a good idea.

    Note: the walk breaks provide a *lot* of recovery, so it's
    possible you *might* be able to build a little faster
    than a usual running program. BUT the fact that you
    were injured within 2 wks of starting a run/walk
    program is raising red flags in my eyes. But maybe
    there's an explanation, like tripping on a curb or
    going waay too fast for your level.

    I would *NOT* try to make up the missed sessions in your
    original plan. Just adjust your goals and perhaps walk more
    of it than you had originally planned - at least to start,
    and see how things feel. Or postpone. And if you have more
    experience than what the post suggests, then you may want to
    ignore comments.

    Just my thoughts. Caveat: I have no 10k running race
    experience (but have done longer duration multisport)

    Good luck.

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
    Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  5. Quoted message said:

    If 30 min run/walk (or walk only) is a challenge for you
    now (not sure if it's aerobic conditioning or legs/feet
    being tired), you might want to consider a 10k later (or
    maybe a 5k option if one is offered). Or if you can walk
    that distance / duration, then just continue building the
    run/walk as you've been doing (without the ankle injury),
    and wing it on race day with that same ratio. But if
    you're coming from a sedentary background with little
    other activity, I'm not sure that's a good idea.

    Quoted message said:

    Note: the walk breaks provide a *lot* of recovery, so it's
    possible you *might* be able to build a little
    faster than a usual running program. BUT the fact
    that you were injured within 2 wks of starting a
    run/walk program is raising red flags in my eyes.
    But maybe there's an explanation, like tripping on a
    curb or going waay too fast for your


    level.

    Good points and well made.

    Yes - am coming from a sedentary background. Ankle swelling
    flared-up after 2 weeks so approach of running every other
    day was, on reflection, for my state too aggressive. Next
    run is planned for Thursday so will re-assess goals
    afterwards.

  6. "feargalf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run my
    first 10K on 03-May. Started training for it in late
    February and followed a training plan that advocated
    building up stamina through alternating short runs


    with

    Quoted message said:

    breaks for walking and recovery, e.g. Run for 4 minutes,
    walk for 2 equals


    6

    Quoted message said:

    minutes by 5 repetitions. After 2 weeks of this I did
    'something' to my ankle so haven't felt able to run for
    the last 2 weeks. Went out today and managed 10+2+8+2+6
    (run 10, walk 2, run 8, etc.) Ankle feels OK

    Challenge: 4 weeks to go to the 10Kand I'm way off the
    training schedule,
    i.e. I should be running for 30 minutes without a break at
    this stage.

    Question: Any advice for how I should schedule the next 4
    weeks to be able to run 10K without a break. My goal for
    this race is completion - I don't have a target time.

    All advice appreciated.

    Don't bite off more than you can chew - your body told you
    something, and you risk further injury by stepping up the
    training. It's almost certain you will not be able to handle
    it, based on what you've provided.

    Revise the plan - sign up for a 5k and use the 10k as a
    training run/walk... you may suprise yourself and run more
    of it than you thought, perhaps all of it; provided you ease
    up from here on in. Steady training always wins in the end.

    cheers,
    --
    David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
    insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
    down constantly."

  7. "feargalf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run my
    first 10K on 03-May. Started training for it in late
    February and followed a training plan that advocated
    building up stamina through alternating short runs with
    breaks for walking and recovery, e.g. Run for 4 minutes,
    walk for 2 equals 6 minutes by 5 repetitions. After 2
    weeks of this I did 'something' to my ankle so haven't
    felt able to run for the last 2 weeks. Went out today and
    managed 10+2+8+2+6 (run 10, walk 2, run 8, etc.) Ankle
    feels OK

    Challenge: 4 weeks to go to the 10Kand I'm way off the
    training schedule,
    i.e. I should be running for 30 minutes without a break at
    this stage.

    Question: Any advice for how I should schedule the next 4
    weeks to be able to run 10K without a break. My goal for
    this race is completion - I don't have a target time.

    All advice appreciated.

    Since I posted this query 4 weeks ago, I persevered with my
    approach of putting as many miles on my legs as I could - 2
    lunchtimes per week and a long run at the weekend. It went
    less well than I had hoped for. My longest run had been 42
    minutes and that was Sun 18-April. Last Wednesday was the
    last preparation run before the 10K and that was an
    uncomfortable 39 minutes. This morning I presented myself at
    Donore Harriers AC to pick-up my race number and whiled away
    the time until the race began at 11:00. I kept towards the
    back and found a rhythm which soon had me passing others. On
    the 'descent' of Khyber Road I was amused to see the runners
    in front of me startled by the local herd of deer charging
    across the race route. The long 'ascent' from Chapelizod
    gate to Farmleigh was less taxing than I feared. Others
    dropped their pace dramatically and there was an increase in
    the number of walkers. My principal target for this race was
    to run the whole 10K. It was at this point that I was most
    at risk of stopping running as my subconscious tends to send
    stop signals to my legs whenever an intermediate milestone
    has been achieved. Today my focus was good and I was able to
    sustain the running all the way to the end.

    My first 10K. 4 weeks of preparation. 57m30s. Legs feel
    like lead.

    There is a 10 mile race in August which I may enter. If I do
    that, or any other such event again, I am certain that I
    will not compress it all into such a short period.

  8. Well? How did it go?

    --
    Colm

    "feargalf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run my
    first 10K on 03-May.

  9. You should be comfortable running for an hour- no
    fatigue or pain.

    In many areas of the USA there is a 10K almost every
    weekend, so rushing it should not be an issue.

  10. "TarfHead" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "feargalf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Background: soon-to-be 40 year old male planning to run
    my first 10K on 03-May. Started training for it in late
    February and followed a training plan that advocated
    building up stamina through alternating short runs


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    breaks for walking and recovery, e.g. Run for 4 minutes,
    walk for 2


    equals 6

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    minutes by 5 repetitions. After 2 weeks of this I did
    'something' to my ankle so haven't felt able to run for
    the last 2 weeks. Went out today


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    managed 10+2+8+2+6 (run 10, walk 2, run 8, etc.) Ankle
    feels OK

    Challenge: 4 weeks to go to the 10Kand I'm way off the
    training


    schedule,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    i.e. I should be running for 30 minutes without a break
    at this stage.

    Question: Any advice for how I should schedule the next
    4 weeks to be


    able

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to run 10K without a break. My goal for this race is
    completion - I


    don't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have a target time.

    All advice appreciated.

    Since I posted this query 4 weeks ago, I persevered with
    my approach of putting as many miles on my legs as I could
    - 2 lunchtimes per week and a long run at the weekend. It
    went less well than I had hoped for. My longest run had
    been 42 minutes and that was Sun 18-April. Last Wednesday
    was the last preparation run before the 10K and that was
    an uncomfortable 39 minutes. This morning I presented
    myself at Donore Harriers AC to pick-up my race number and
    whiled away the time until the race began at 11:00. I kept
    towards the back and found a rhythm which soon had me
    passing others. On the 'descent' of Khyber Road I was
    amused to see the runners in front of me startled by the
    local herd of deer charging across the race route. The
    long 'ascent' from Chapelizod gate to Farmleigh was less
    taxing than I feared. Others dropped their pace
    dramatically and there was an increase in the number of
    walkers. My principal target for this race was to run the
    whole 10K. It was at this point that I was most at risk of
    stopping running as my subconscious tends to send stop
    signals to my legs whenever an intermediate milestone has
    been achieved. Today my focus was good and I was able to
    sustain the running all the way to the end.

    My first 10K. 4 weeks of preparation. 57m30s. Legs feel
    like lead.

    There is a 10 mile race in August which I may enter. If I
    do that, or any other such event again, I am certain that
    I will not compress it all into such a short period.

    You're doing great!

    Just keep running. By August you'll be *so* ready.

    a.

  11. Sorry. Didn't see your earlier post. Well done on the
    finish. The 10 miler will be a doddle if you keep up
    the training.

    --
    Colm

    "Colm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    : Well? How did it go?

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