A visit to Hannaford's

George W. Cherry said:

Hannaford's is a super market we shop at in York, Maine.

Personally I like the one in Saco because I'm usually on vacation and have more time to
study carts. 🙂

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I thoroughly enjoy the visits, peeking in shopper's carts to see what they're buying. Today I
passed an exceedingly obese woman, weighing, I imagine, 400-500 pounds. She made forward progress
down the aisle by a sort of rocking from left to right. She had a teenage daughter in tow who
probably weighed about 200 pounds.

The contents of her shopping cart were illuminating: all she had so far was three items: a large
bag of sugar and two medium bags of white flour.

Watching shopping carts especially at checkout time has been a interest of mine also. If you had a
chance to see that cart at checkout you would have seen very few vegetables, nary a fruit unless
Apple Jacks cereal and filled with fat laden chips and dips, cookies, full bodied soft drinks and
yummy fast and easy to prepare TV dinners(big hungryman ones), sugared breakfast cereals, boxed
macaroni and cheese, maybe some hamburger, etc.

I would be willing to bet, and really sad, that the white flour was the probably the healthiest food
in the cart at checkout time. Nothin but simple sugar and loads of fats - bad fats.

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Watching shopping carts especially at checkout time has been a interest of mine also.

I am sorry to see that you don't have a life, Mr. Busy Body.

"... you have my sympathies" Science Officer Ash to Ripley, in the movie ALIEN.

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George W. Cherry said:

Hannaford's is a super market we shop at in York, Maine.

Personally I like the one in Saco because I'm usually on vacation and have more time to study
carts. 🙂

Quoted message said:

I thoroughly enjoy the visits, peeking in shopper's carts to see what they're buying. Today I
passed an exceedingly obese woman, weighing, I imagine, 400-500 pounds. She made forward
progress down the aisle by a sort of rocking from left to right. She had a teenage daughter in
tow who probably weighed about 200 pounds.

The contents of her shopping cart were illuminating: all she had so far was three items: a large
bag of sugar and two medium bags of white flour.

Watching shopping carts especially at checkout time has been a interest of mine also. If you had a
chance to see that cart at checkout you would have seen very few vegetables, nary a fruit unless
Apple Jacks cereal and filled with fat laden chips and dips, cookies, full bodied soft drinks and
yummy fast and easy to prepare TV dinners(big hungryman ones), sugared breakfast cereals, boxed
macaroni and cheese, maybe some hamburger, etc.

I would be willing to bet, and really sad, that the white flour was the probably the healthiest
food in the cart at checkout time. Nothin but simple sugar and loads of fats - bad fats.

There are several other ways of "seeing" what is going on and sometimes isn't obvious to most.
Watching people's plates at buffets, watching cooking shows, etc.

At buffets, invariably, obese people load up on refined and high-GI carbs, potatoes, bread, etc. and
the meal is usually accompanied by some kind of large container of sweetened drink.

I was watching a cooking show the other day where the significantly *overweight* female host was
baking *cookies* sprinkled with sugar and cooking a pasta dish (low-fat of course). For us low-
carbers those are significant red flags.

I attended a safe grad meeting last year where one lady was insisting that we supply the grads, who
would be drinking alcoholic beverages in copious quantities, with *healthy* foods only. Her idea of
healthy food was low-fat stuff, specifically veggies and fruit. She also offered to bake bread and
muffins for the event, all low-fat. She explained how she runs a home bakery and would do it at
cost. On the surface it sounded good except this "health" expert must have been 5 feet tall and
weighed probably 250 to 275 lbs. Red flags a plenty.

I may have been the only one there who saw the incongruity of this individual trying to impose her
idea of "healthy" high-carb eating onto an entire group. I convinced the group to supply the grads
with all the fruits and veggies they want but to also include some decent cold-cuts and whole-wheat
buns. It was funny watching the grads go down the food table, ignoring the fruits and veggies and
diving into the sandwiches. Imagine these kids drinking like fish 'til 5:00 in the morning and not
having any substantial food during the entire night to fill them up. Basically without the
sandwiches they would have been drinking on empty or nearly empty stomachs.

The "health expert" was concerned that fatty food would make the drinkers feel sick and cause a lot
of alcohol-assisted throwing up. We had one person actually get sick and throw up, and that was
before the cold-cuts were served.

TC

John 'the Boy said:

Once upon a time, our fellow Doug Freese rambled on about "Re: A visit to Hannaford's." Our
champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

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Watching shopping carts especially at checkout time has been a interest of mine also.

I am sorry to see that you don't have a life, Mr. Busy Body.

Your posts are comprised of nothing but farraginous fanfaronade so rocks and glass houses don't mix.
And we know you know.

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I was watching a cooking show the other day where the significantly *overweight* female host was
baking *cookies* sprinkled with sugar and cooking a pasta dish (low-fat of course). For us low-
carbers those are significant red flags.

The significant red flag in your post is that you are not talking about carbohydrates.

You are knocking refined grains. There is a big difference.

Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

tcomeau humorously opines:

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There are several other ways of "seeing" what is going on and sometimes isn't obvious to most.
Watching people's plates at buffets, watching cooking shows, etc.

At buffets, invariably, obese people load up on refined and high-GI carbs, potatoes, bread, etc.
and the meal is usually accompanied by some kind of large container of sweetened drink.

First off nearly everyone over indulges not just overweight people on a buffet table.

Are you aware of the art of setting up a buffet table?? The cheapest to prepare and bulky
items(potato and macaroni for example) are always first. Whether it's simply gluttony or outright
hunger people puts gobs of the cheap stuff on their plate. As they move down the table the items
cost more. Most of the expensive foods such as meats are last when you have very little room on your
dish. if you reveres the order and put the meat first, you would see the plates piled with $$meat$$.

While you may focus on the fact that the early items are refined, I focus on they are loaded with
fat calories. Frankly I think the multi dollop of mayo in the pile potato salad does more to blow up
your hips then the spuds.

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I was watching a cooking show the other day where the significantly *overweight* female host was
baking *cookies* sprinkled with sugar and cooking a pasta dish (low-fat of course). For us low-
carbers those are significant red flags.

Only a red flag if you have a control problem. With self control you can have an occasional cookie.

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I attended a safe grad meeting last year where one lady was insisting that we supply the grads,
who would be drinking alcoholic beverages in copious quantities, with *healthy* foods only. Her
idea of healthy food was low-fat stuff, specifically veggies and fruit.

Oh God how terrible. I would have hung her on the spot. Those evil fruits and veggies when they
could have had a platter greasy double whoppers. I can just see those evil little broccoli,
cauliflower, peppers, raw carrots and grape tomatoes sitting on a tray saying, eat me if you dare.
How could possibly hold back that urge to plug her on the spot. I have to admire your self control.
You should form a lobby not to sue the the fast food folks but those chubby little ladies that
prepare buffet vegetable platters. I see a Nobel Prize in this for you.

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offered to bake bread and muffins for the event, all low-fat. She explained how she runs a home
bakery and would do it at cost. On the surface it sounded good except this "health" expert must
have been 5 feet tall and weighed probably 250 to 275 lbs. Red flags a plenty.

Yup big red flag. Personal obesity means she is ignorant of healthy food. Wanna bet she doesn't
normally eat fruits and veggies and prefers potato salad and desserts?

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I may have been the only one there who saw the incongruity of this individual trying to impose her
idea of "healthy" high-carb eating onto an entire group.

I'll bet you were. I'll bet you were. Are you having fun trolling???

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De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

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I am sorry to see that you don't have a life, Mr. Busy Body.

Your posts are comprised of nothing but farraginous fanfaronade so rocks and glass houses don't
mix. And we know you know.

I don't watch shopping carts because if they shop the way that I do, I only buy stuff that I happen
to be out of.

Your theory is fundamentally flawed, Mr. Biased Busy Body without a life.

Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

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tcomeau humorously opines:

Quoted message said:

There are several other ways of "seeing" what is going on and sometimes isn't obvious to most.
Watching people's plates at buffets, watching cooking shows, etc.

At buffets, invariably, obese people load up on refined and high-GI carbs, potatoes, bread, etc.
and the meal is usually accompanied by some kind of large container of sweetened drink.

First off nearly everyone over indulges not just overweight people on a buffet table.

Are you aware of the art of setting up a buffet table?? The cheapest to prepare and bulky
items(potato and macaroni for example) are always first. Whether it's simply gluttony or outright
hunger people puts gobs of the cheap stuff on their plate. As they move down the table the items
cost more. Most of the expensive foods such as meats are last when you have very little room on
your dish. if you reveres the order and put the meat first, you would see the plates piled with
$$meat$$.

While you may focus on the fact that the early items are refined, I focus on they are loaded with
fat calories. Frankly I think the multi dollop of mayo in the pile potato salad does more to blow
up your hips then the spuds.

Quoted message said:

I was watching a cooking show the other day where the significantly *overweight* female host was
baking *cookies* sprinkled with sugar and cooking a pasta dish (low-fat of course). For us low-
carbers those are significant red flags.

Only a red flag if you have a control problem. With self control you can have an
occasional cookie.

Quoted message said:

I attended a safe grad meeting last year where one lady was insisting that we supply the grads,
who would be drinking alcoholic beverages in copious quantities, with *healthy* foods only. Her
idea of healthy food was low-fat stuff, specifically veggies and fruit.

Oh God how terrible. I would have hung her on the spot. Those evil fruits and veggies when they
could have had a platter greasy double whoppers. I can just see those evil little broccoli,
cauliflower, peppers, raw carrots and grape tomatoes sitting on a tray saying, eat me if you dare.
How could possibly hold back that urge to plug her on the spot. I have to admire your self
control. You should form a lobby not to sue the the fast food folks but those chubby little ladies
that prepare buffet vegetable platters. I see a Nobel Prize in this for you.

LOL! : o )

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offered to bake bread and muffins for the event, all low-fat. She explained how she runs a home
bakery and would do it at cost. On the surface it sounded good except this "health" expert must
have been 5 feet tall and weighed probably 250 to 275 lbs. Red flags a plenty.

Yup big red flag. Personal obesity means she is ignorant of healthy food. Wanna bet she doesn't
normally eat fruits and veggies and prefers potato salad and desserts?

Quoted message said:

I may have been the only one there who saw the incongruity of this individual trying to impose
her idea of "healthy" high-carb eating onto an entire group.

I'll bet you were. I'll bet you were. Are you having fun trolling???

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