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  1. We should all be aware that mountain bikes are now classed as vehicles when
    it comes to entering SCA Level 2 catchment areas This means bike riders are
    banned with the possiblility of a $11000 fine. Thats a $10000 fine and
    $1000 GST so you get taxed on your fine.
    Walkers are still permited.
    The leaflet I have ( dated 09-2003) states that we are banned from all
    trails to after Packsaddlers (including trails to Medlow gap) as well as the
    watershed firetrail from McMahons lookout to Warragamba dam ( or the Jack
    Evans Track). So say goodbye to the magic ride from Katoomba to Mittagong
    down Scotts Main Range.
    (Scotts Main Range is Level 2 catchment).
    Does anyone have any ideas on how to fight this?
    After watching the well organised 4WD, Trail bike and horse groups lose a
    few years ago I dont think we have a chance. This government makes up its
    mind and thats the end of it.

  2. That's what happens when State Forest gets turned into National Park.
    Pretty soon the whole country will be locked up. We won't be allowed to
    go in there, just look from the edges. Don't get me started on the
    follies of green politics!

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  3. Spider1977 said:

    That's what happens when State Forest gets turned into National Park.
    Pretty soon the whole country will be locked up. We won't be allowed to
    go in there, just look from the edges. Don't get me started on the
    follies of green politics!

    you'll probably find that it is the horsey people and the 4 wheel
    drive people having a big hissy fit about those bloody bikies and
    hikers that got the door shut rather than the green green people.

    I think I would far rather have a green perspective than allowing the
    4WD, horses and the foresters back into some of the areas just so they
    can trash the joint again. At least green politics is trying to
    maintain what is left rather than flattening the lot.

  4. Kenneth J Brodrick said:


    We should all be aware that mountain bikes are now classed as vehicles when
    it comes to entering SCA Level 2 catchment areas This means bike riders are
    banned with the possiblility of a $11000 fine. Thats a $10000 fine and
    $1000 GST so you get taxed on your fine.

    Is this new, or only something that you have just become aware of?

    The time to fight this was a few years ago when it was all reviewed, but
    my understanding was that at the time, no bicycle group made a
    submission.

  5. People you are looking at this issue the wrong way. It will cost yo
    $11,000 'IF' you get caught. I used to ride an unregistered motorbike u
    in the forrest with my friends. A ranger tried to wave us down one day
    We waved back and went bush

    Financial crisis averte

    :

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    "Terry Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Kenneth J Brodrick said:


    We should all be aware that mountain bikes are now classed as vehicles


    when

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    it comes to entering SCA Level 2 catchment areas This means bike riders


    are

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    banned with the possiblility of a $11000 fine. Thats a $10000 fine and
    $1000 GST so you get taxed on your fine.

    Is this new, or only something that you have just become aware of?

    The time to fight this was a few years ago when it was all reviewed, but
    my understanding was that at the time, no bicycle group made a
    submission.

  7. Terry Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Kenneth J Brodrick said:


    We should all be aware that mountain bikes are now classed as vehicles when
    it comes to entering SCA Level 2 catchment areas This means bike riders are
    banned with the possiblility of a $11000 fine. Thats a $10000 fine and
    $1000 GST so you get taxed on your fine.

    Is this new, or only something that you have just become aware of?

    The time to fight this was a few years ago when it was all reviewed, but
    my understanding was that at the time, no bicycle group made a
    submission.

    Several people did, but I don't think Sydney water wanted to hear.
    There was an announcement due (which probably would have been
    anti-bike anyway) The giardia/crypto scare killed that and gave them a
    great excuse to be even more Nazi.

    SW got a consultant do do an analysis of increasing access vs cost vs
    risks, etc But it seemed to me to be deliberately set up to get the
    result they wanted. There were only 3 options to choose from and 2
    were so ludicrous that they had to choose the one they wanted. This
    was basically keep it as it is but increase policing to improve
    conformance with the current rules which have been around for some
    time, just your chance of getting caught was lower,a was your chance
    of anything actually happening to you afterwards. Keeping things just
    the same wasn't an option.

    It was of course a given that it had to be kept tightly controlled
    despite the fact that you can ride a bike around Googong Dam (ACT
    water supply) and even go fishing there. I believe in VIC you can go
    sailing on Melbourne's water supply. Looks more like a power thing
    than a real need to keep people out to protect our water supply.

    Al.

  8. Well I guess this means I cant raise anyones enthusiasm to fight.
    Well I`ll be writing to the SCA. It wont do any good!!!
    But bugger it........... I will any way

  9. Kenneth J Brodr said:

    Well I guess this means I cant raise anyones enthusiasm to fight. Well
    I`ll be writing to the SCA. It wont do any good!!! But bugger
    it........... I will any way

    I don't think it's a matter of a lack of enthusiasm Kenneth. The hors
    has bolted on this one. We have all crashed our bikes at some stage an
    subsequently don't feel like bashing our heads against a brick wall

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