Aches

Doki said:

What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride where it's
gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs giving me general
post ride grief...

A nice hot bath.

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What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride where it's
gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs giving me general
post ride grief...

Deep Heat

Al C-F said:

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Quoted message said:

What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride
where it's gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs
giving me general post ride grief...

Deep Heat

Thought about that. Does it linger on your skin or not (thinking of the
story of my mate who used some and then went to the lavatory...)?

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What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride where it's
gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs giving me general
post ride grief...

A gentle warm down (I normally just ride the last part more gently).

A nice hot cup of tea.

Some gentle stretching.

A nice hot shower.

Some more stretches.

Immediate post ride grief from the legs is not normally the main problem.
After a long ride it is often after a bit of a rest -- or, especially, the
next morning when I find I'm tottering around like a ninety year old. Then
it is just a matter of warming up, so I totter and stretch a bit till the
legs start working. It normally only takes a few minutes.

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Thought about that. Does it linger on your skin or not (thinking of the
story of my mate who used some and then went to the lavatory...)?

Not as bad as the juice of jalepeno chilles - one of those rare
ocassions where washing one's hands before going to the toilet
was advisable.

Doki said:

What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride where

it's

Quoted message said:

gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs giving me

general

Quoted message said:

post ride grief...

Stretching, especially back extensions as I find myself rather hunched
after a long bike ride. Hamstring and quad stretching also helps
prevent the legs from seizing up IME.

(not that I've _done_ a long bike ride this year, but in principle...)

James

Doki said:

What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride where it's
gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs giving me general
post ride grief...

Take some ibuprofen and have a hot bath. If you take the ibuprofen
before the ride it decreases any inflammation that might worsen your
back and leg problems.

Tony

Doki <[email hidden]> wrote:
: What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
: suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride where it's
: gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs giving me general
: post ride grief...

Also do core stability exercises to strengthen your back to try and avoid
the problem in the first place.

Windproof top (or at least a gillet) to keep the wind off your torso.

Proper base layers not a cotton t-shirt.

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Proper base layers not a cotton t-shirt.

What's wrong with a cotton t-shirt?

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Chris

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Quoted message said:

Proper base layers not a cotton t-shirt.

What's wrong with a cotton t-shirt?

A wicking base layer does not retain the moisture so you do not get a cold,
wet bit of cloth next to your skin.

The proper stuff is more comfortable, warmer and generally better.

Believe me -- I used to cycle in a cotton tee shirt.

T

Monkey Hanger said:

What's wrong with a cotton t-shirt?

Cotton absorbs and retains moisture. While that's all very well in a
towel, on a cyclist's back it will get rather damp, and if you then
lower the output for some reason it will get you rather cold rather fast.
Good wicking base layers move moisture away from your body and disperse
it over the surface of the garment for rapid evaporation, so you still
get a cooling effect as you sweat but it doesn't come back to haunt you
later on when you want to be warm.

Pete.
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Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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vernon levy said:

Not as bad as the juice of jalepeno chilles - one of those rare
ocassions where washing one's hands before going to the toilet
was advisable.

Funnily enough I've always been puzzled why we're meant to wash our
hands after going to the toilet rather than before if it's only a
number one. Our hands are far more likely to be contaminated than the
organ they are about to hold.

--
Dave...

Monkey Hanger said:

Arthur Clune wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Proper base layers not a cotton t-shirt.

What's wrong with a cotton t-shirt?

It gets wet with sweat and stays that way for a long time. When you're
still working hard it reduces the cooling effect of sweating, and when
you begin to cool off it quickly makes you cold.

--
Dave...

dkahn400 said:

Monkey Hanger said:

Arthur Clune wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Proper base layers not a cotton t-shirt.

What's wrong with a cotton t-shirt?

It gets wet with sweat and stays that way for a long time. When you're
still working hard it reduces the cooling effect of sweating, and when
you begin to cool off it quickly makes you cold.

As Dave says.

Have a look round Lidl or Tchibo and spend seven quid on a proper
base layer.
Or check out your local outdoors shop or cycle shop for a 'wicking
baselayer'.
You'll wonder how you ever did without one.
Trust us. And you don't have to spend a fortune - my favourite Force Zero
baselayer came from the 'seconds' bin in Condor.

John Hearns said:

dkahn400 said:

Monkey Hanger said:

Arthur Clune wrote:

Quoted message said:

> Proper base layers not a cotton t-shirt.

What's wrong with a cotton t-shirt?

It gets wet with sweat and stays that way for a long time. When you're
still working hard it reduces the cooling effect of sweating, and when
you begin to cool off it quickly makes you cold.

I haven't worn a T-shirt as my main/only layer for quite a while now, and
when I did it was usually in summer so I didn't notice the cooling problem.
In fact at the time I was glad of it... I have worn one under my Aldi
winter cycling jacket however, and I'd have preferred something slightly
less prone to soaking.

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As Dave says.

Have a look round Lidl or Tchibo and spend seven quid on a proper
base layer.

I was in there yesterday, and that was one of the things I overlooked. Maybe
I'll get in there tomorrow morning and see if there are any left. I
probably won't need it until next winter and it will be yet another thing
to take with me when I move in a couple of weeks, but what the hell you
don't get bargains like that everyday.

Quoted message said:

Or check out your local outdoors shop or cycle shop for a 'wicking
baselayer'.

Could be an option, especially if Lidl don't have any left. I expect the
outdoors shop to be somewhat more expensive though.

Quoted message said:

You'll wonder how you ever did without one.
Trust us. And you don't have to spend a fortune - my favourite Force Zero
baselayer came from the 'seconds' bin in Condor.

That Condor moment. I'll have to have a look in there before I leave the
smoke.
--
Chris

Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>typed

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Monkey Hanger wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What's wrong with a cotton t-shirt?

Quoted message said:

Cotton absorbs and retains moisture. While that's all very well in a
towel, on a cyclist's back it will get rather damp, and if you then
lower the output for some reason it will get you rather cold rather fast.
Good wicking base layers move moisture away from your body and disperse
it over the surface of the garment for rapid evaporation, so you still
get a cooling effect as you sweat but it doesn't come back to haunt you
later on when you want to be warm.

It just haunts you when you want to be cool and dry.
Sweat contains much salt.
'Wicking' tops tend to leave the salt behind when the water evaporates.
Salt on skin absorbs moisture from atmosphere, leaving wearer itchy and
sticky.

I perspire freely and *hated* the stickiness I had with so-called
'wicking' tops.

A Cotton T-Shirt Lover.

--
Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

Quoted message said:

Take some ibuprofen and have a hot bath. If you take the ibuprofen
before the ride it decreases any inflammation that might worsen your
back and leg problems.

There speaks a man after my own heart!

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Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

Helen Deborah Vecht <[email hidden]> wrote:

: I perspire freely and *hated* the stickiness I had with so-called
: 'wicking' tops.

Use a nice wool one? Howies make some excellent Merino wool base layers
in various weights.

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What do you lot do for aches? Particularly, my back seizing up rather
suddenly and painfully every so often after I've been on a ride
where it's gotten cold after sweating and then colling, and my legs
giving me general post ride grief...

Deep Heat

Thought about that. Does it linger on your skin or not (thinking of the
story of my mate who used some and then went to the lavatory...)?

It wouldn't be a bad idea to wash your hands before touching any sensitive
areas - eyes, nose, scrotum...

....and yes, the smell does linger somewhat.