Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters

Friar Broccoli said:

Hi;

Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
fixed settings for each gear.

I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.

I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.

Start here:

http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp

click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.

You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% 'Attitude' - said:

Friar Broccoli said:

Hi;

Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
fixed settings for each gear.

I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.

I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.

Start here:

http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp

click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.

You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:

1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. 😉

For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition"

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% 'Attitude' - said:

Friar Broccoli said:

Hi;

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
fixed settings for each gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.

Quoted message said:

Start here:

Quoted message said:

http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp

Quoted message said:

click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.

Quoted message said:

You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:

1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. 😉

For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.

Thank you for the reference.
I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.

However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
and useful.

Thanks again;

Friar Broccoli
Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
Best programmer's & all purpose text editor: http://www.semware.com

--------- I consider ALL arguments in support of my views ---------

Ozark Bicycle said:

Friar Broccoli said:

Hi;

Quoted message said:

Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
fixed settings for each gear.

Quoted message said:

I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.

Quoted message said:

I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.

Start here:

http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp

click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.

You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?

Friar Broccoli said:

However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
and useful.

No one surpasses "Richard" for petty vindictiveness here, especially
IRT Sheldon Brown. Such as poring over Sheldon's website to find
niggling "errors" or perhaps, info in need of updating (at worst), and
then reporting his findings in a nasty and sarcastic manner in posts
to this newsgroup, instead of, as Sheldon has requested, sending his
input via private email.

Not to mention "Richard" not being above kicking a guy when he's down,
as Sheldon has reported serious and debilitating health problems,
beginning a year and more in the past.

I say this somewhat reluctantly, but if you compare Sheldon's site to
"Richard's", there's a clue right there of where this behavior might
originate.

Tom Sherman told you the truth, too <g>.

It's OK, you'll get your shifting tuned up and go on. Good thing you
didn't mention having a 12-tooth cog on any of your bikes. That's
something else that sets "Richard" off, referring again to those "past
conflicts" you've mentioned <g>. Petty, vindictive, and ignorant, too,
in spite of efforts to inform.

But, in fairness (hey, somebody's got to do it!), "Richard" sometimes
posts useful info along with the dross, as you've seen.

Good afternoon, Zarkie! Hope that wasn't too stiff for you. Working
today, or newsgroupin'? --D-y

Friar Broccoli said:

On Aug 14, 3:23 pm, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi;

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
fixed settings for each gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.

Quoted message said:

Start here:

Quoted message said:

http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp

Quoted message said:

click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.

Quoted message said:

You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?

So long as the chain shifts cleanly accros the cassette, yes, there is
often an "extra click" on shifters. Just be sure to adjust the RD
limit screws to keep the chain on the cogs.

On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Friar Broccoli said:

However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
and useful.

<juvenile drivel deleted>

Troll much, Walter?

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
and useful.

<juvenile drivel deleted>

Troll much, Walter?

The google groups site has a little yellow notifier: "Your post has
been successful".

I agree.

Accepting criticism is not your long suit, 'Zarkie.

I suggest your credibility might be enchanced if you argued substance
instead of deleting content and flinging mud.

Ready for something new, turning a page in your life, etc. etc?

BTW: Could you post a URL to your own bicycling info site? Thanks! --
D-y

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On Aug 15, 12:42 pm, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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Quoted message said:

On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> and useful.

Quoted message said:

<juvenile drivel deleted>

Quoted message said:

Troll much, Walter?

<additional deletion of additional drivel>

Perhaps if you rode your bike more and trolled less, you'd work off
all that adolescent hostility....

Oh, and you might even actually be able to use that 53x12 for
something other than show.

Hey, OP-- was I right about 'Zarkie's 12 problem?

I've never asked what he thinks about 11's. Oh well, another day!

(O-zar gets the last word) (Yeah, quoting, but it's all repetition
anyhow):

On Aug 15, 2:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Hey, OP-- see what I mean?

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On Aug 15, 12:42 pm, Ozark Bicycle

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Quoted message said:

On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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Quoted message said:

> On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> > to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> > conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> > and useful.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

<juvenile drivel deleted>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Troll much, Walter?

<additional deletion of additional drivel>

Perhaps if you rode your bike more and trolled less, you'd work off
all that adolescent hostility....

Oh, and you might even actually be able to use that 53x12 for
something other than show.

On Aug 15, 4:26 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote:

-and the schoolboy level drivel flows -

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Hey, OP-- was I right about 'Zarkie's 12 problem?

<some drivel snipped>

Quoted message said:

Hey, OP-- see what I mean?

LOL!!! You're a hoot, Walter, in a pathetic sorta way.

Was that *two* last words, 'Zarkie? You've outdone yourself!

Go for three? A good word for Sheldon Brown on the way out? --D-y

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Aug 15, 4:26 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote:

-and the schoolboy level drivel flows -

Quoted message said:

Hey, OP-- was I right about 'Zarkie's 12 problem?

<some drivel snipped>

Quoted message said:

Hey, OP-- see what I mean?

LOL!!! You're a hoot, Walter, in a pathetic sorta way.

Ozark Bicycle said:

Friar Broccoli said:

On Aug 14, 3:23 pm, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Hi;

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> fixed settings for each gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Start here:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

Quoted message said:

I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?

So long as the chain shifts cleanly accros the cassette, yes, there is
often an "extra click" on shifters. Just be sure to adjust the RD
limit screws to keep the chain on the cogs.

Thanks;

Doing my best to ignore the other part of this thread.

Friar Broccoli said:

On Aug 15, 1:38 pm, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

On Aug 15, 11:38 am, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

On Aug 14, 3:23 pm, Ozark Bicycle

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Hi;

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> > simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> > shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> > fixed settings for each gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> > the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> > ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> > determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> > that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Start here:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?

Quoted message said:

So long as the chain shifts cleanly accros the cassette, yes, there is
often an "extra click" on shifters. Just be sure to adjust the RD
limit screws to keep the chain on the cogs.

Thanks;

Doing my best to ignore the other part of this thread.

Welcome to RBT. Sometimes the children become cross when the adults
are talking. ;-)

Friar Broccoli aka Robert Keith Elias said:

Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% 'Attitude' - said:

On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Hi;
> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> fixed settings for each gear.
> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
Start here:
http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.

Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:

1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. 😉

For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.

Thank you for the reference.
I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.

However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
and useful....

Hey, No. 2 is much nicer than most of the comments Ozark Bicycle makes
about others on the group. One more than one occasion, Ozark Bicycle has
flamed someone as a "brown nose" for citing Sheldon Brown.

Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't "get"
how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Tom 'Johnny Sunset' Sherman said:

Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't

"get"

Quoted message said:

how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."

Oh [censored]. Now you've done it.

We'll have to read about your sins of 'divulging private email' for the
rest of our natural lives.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

A Muzi said:

Tom 'Johnny Sunset' Sherman said:

Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't

"get"

Quoted message said:

how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."

Oh [censored]. Now you've done it.

We'll have to read about your sins of 'divulging private email' for the
rest of our natural lives.
--

He is especially whiny of late, eh?

Andrew Muzi said:

Tom 'Johnny Sunset' Sherman said:

Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't "get"
how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."

Oh [censored]. Now you've done it.

We'll have to read about your sins of 'divulging private email' for the
rest of our natural lives.

Huh? That comment by Ozark Bicycle was posted to Usenet, not private
email. See
<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/955ed107da1daae/febdc34edbdcd811?lnk=gst&q=lameass&rnum=5&hl=en#febdc34edbdcd811>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Friar Broccoli said:

Doing my best to ignore the other part of this thread.

Choose your friends carefully.

Told you about Sheldon, told you about the 12. --D-y