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  1. Hello,

    I'm new to this group and am seeking advice on whether to
    buy a complete bike or buy it part by part. I've been heavy
    trail riding for about two years on my cheap Diamondback
    Bike. I live in Germany and there's plenty of hills, dirt
    paths, and rocky paths to bike on. The grades of the foot
    hills range from steep to progressive climbs. What I feel is
    that I need a lighter bike and a good transmission. I hate
    it when I am pedalling up a steep ass hill and try to switch
    gears and WHAM the gears slip or when I'm standing I hit my
    nards real real hard on the dang top bar. I have no idea
    what type of shimano gears it has, but it's got some cheap
    GRIPShifter. Now, I am in a dilema whether to buy a hard
    tail or a full suspension. I'd like to try out some races
    around the area, but I know I'll get no where with my heavy
    Diamond back. Any advice from seasoned bikers will be a
    great help. I never though I'd fall in love with Mountain
    biking, but after riding for 2 years, I think it's time to
    cough up the money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam. Please
    no jokes about kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    I'm open to any pointers!

    --
    Radley

  2. "Radley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    I'm a tad shorter than you and I've never had problems
    finding the right bike in adult size.

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

  3. "Carla A-G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Radley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    online.com...

    Quoted message said:

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    I'm a tad shorter than you and I've never had problems
    finding the right bike in adult size.

    You may be shorter but you probably have more standover
    height as you don't have dangling bits that can be crushed
    ;] Been there, done that..... ouch!!!!!

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Radley said:

    I'm new to this group and am seeking advice on whether to
    buy a complete bike or buy it part by part. I've been
    heavy trail riding for about two years on my cheap
    Diamondback Bike. I live in Germany and there's plenty of
    hills, dirt paths, and rocky paths to bike on. The grades
    of the foot hills range from steep to progressive climbs.
    What I feel is that I need a lighter bike and a good
    transmission. I hate it when I am pedalling up a steep ass
    hill and try to switch gears and WHAM the gears slip or
    when I'm standing I hit my nards real real hard on the
    dang top bar. I have no idea what type of shimano gears it
    has, but it's got some cheap GRIPShifter. Now, I am in a
    dilema whether to buy a hard tail or a full suspension.
    I'd like to try out some races around the area, but I know
    I'll get no where with my heavy Diamond back. Any advice
    from seasoned bikers will be a great help. I never though
    I'd fall in love with Mountain biking, but after riding
    for 2 years, I think it's time to cough up the money for a
    bike that's around $1,000.

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes about kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    My 15" Specialized Rockhopper would fit you fine. If you're
    looking at $1000, you can either get a good quality hardtail
    or a low-end full suspension. IMHO, if going up is your
    sticking point, look for a hardtail, and if going down is
    your thing, look for full suspension. Since you're looking
    for lightness, you should be leaning toward a hardtail. I'd
    suggest you look for a complete bike, as you get more bike
    for the money than if you buy components separately.

    Van
    --
    Van Bagnol / v b a g n o l at earthlink dot net / c r l at
    bagnol dot com ...enjoys - Theatre / Windsurfing / Skydiving
    / Mountain Biking ...feels - "Parang lumalakad ako sa loob
    ng paniginip" ...thinks - "An Error is Not a Mistake ...
    Unless You Refuse to Correct It"

  5. "Van Bagnol" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Radley said:

    I'm new to this group and am seeking advice on whether
    to buy a complete bike or buy it part by part. I've been
    heavy trail riding for about two years on my cheap
    Diamondback Bike. I live in Germany and there's


    plenty of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    hills, dirt paths, and rocky paths to bike on. The
    grades of the foot


    hills

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    range from steep to progressive climbs. What I feel is
    that I need a lighter bike and a good transmission. I
    hate it when I am pedalling up


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    steep ass hill and try to switch gears and WHAM the
    gears slip or when


    I'm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    standing I hit my nards real real hard on the dang top
    bar. I have no


    idea

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what type of shimano gears it has, but it's got some
    cheap GRIPShifter. Now, I am in a dilema whether to buy
    a hard tail or a full suspension.


    I'd

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like to try out some races around the area, but I know
    I'll get no where with my heavy Diamond back. Any advice
    from seasoned bikers will be a


    great

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    help. I never though I'd fall in love with Mountain
    biking, but after riding for 2 years, I think it's time
    to cough up the money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    My 15" Specialized Rockhopper would fit you fine. If
    you're looking at $1000, you can either get a good quality
    hardtail or a low-end full suspension. IMHO, if going up
    is your sticking point, look for a hardtail, and if going
    down is your thing, look for full suspension. Since you're
    looking for lightness, you should be leaning toward a
    hardtail. I'd suggest you look for a complete bike, as you
    get more bike for the money than if you buy components
    separately.

    Van
    --

    Yup - you cannot build a decent FS for anywhere near $1000,
    but you can get last year's LX/XT/Manitou job, with a
    respectable name on the downtube, for about $11-1200 every
    new season.

    Chris

  6. Stephen Baker said:


    The female "parts" may not dangle, but they do object to
    being crushed, if the look on my wife's face was anything
    to go by.

    Man, I hope we're still talking about bicycling here. ;-)

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
    address, at least)

  7. Radley said:

    I live in Germany and there's plenty of hills, dirt
    paths, and rocky paths to bike on.

    Huh. Most of us are in the US or UK; would the selection
    be the same?

    Quoted message said:

    What I feel is that I need a lighter bike and a good
    transmission.

    Then you've probably answered your question about
    upgrading vs buying. You'd have to swap so much out to
    make it lighter, that you'd be better off buying a new
    bike. Bike parts are pricey, especially if you don't
    install them yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    I hate it when I am pedalling up a steep ass hill and
    try to switch gears and WHAM the gears slip or when
    I'm standing I hit my nards real real hard on the dang
    top bar.

    You shouldn't be trying to change gears when you're
    pedalling up a steep- ass hill. Even a better bike isn't
    going to fare well when you do that. Be in the right gear
    before you start.

    Quoted message said:

    Now, I am in a dilema whether to buy a hard tail or a full
    suspension.

    Full-sus is good in rocks, heavily-rooted areas, big drops -
    anywhere that you'll be getting the life jostled out of you
    on a hardtail. You'll compromise weight & component quality
    at any given cost vs a hardtail. If you're not getting the
    life jostled out of you very often, a hardtail is often a
    better value. But full-sus apparently has some additional
    glitz, as it seems to be the preferable bike to ride on
    fireroads and bunny trails.

    Quoted message said:

    I never though I'd fall in love with Mountain biking, but
    after riding for 2 years, I think it's time to cough up
    the money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Yeah, that's usually when it happens.

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
    address, at least)

  8. "Radley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,

    I'm new to this group and am seeking advice on whether to
    buy a complete bike or buy it part by part. I've been
    heavy trail riding for about two years on my cheap
    Diamondback Bike. I live in Germany and there's plenty


    of

    Quoted message said:

    hills, dirt paths, and rocky paths to bike on. The grades
    of the foot


    hills

    Quoted message said:

    range from steep to progressive climbs. What I feel is
    that I need a lighter bike and a good transmission. I
    hate it when I am pedalling up a steep ass hill and try
    to switch gears and WHAM the gears slip or when I'm
    standing I hit my nards real real hard on the dang top
    bar. I have no


    idea

    Quoted message said:

    what type of shimano gears it has, but it's got some cheap
    GRIPShifter. Now, I am in a dilema whether to buy a hard
    tail or a full suspension.


    I'd

    Quoted message said:

    like to try out some races around the area, but I know
    I'll get no where with my heavy Diamond back. Any advice
    from seasoned bikers will be a


    great

    Quoted message said:

    help. I never though I'd fall in love with Mountain
    biking, but after riding for 2 years, I think it's time to
    cough up the money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    I'm open to any pointers!

    --
    Radley

    I'm 5'7" with a 27 inch inseam. I've had a 15 inch
    Specialized RockHopper that works and a Santa Cruz
    Superlight 17inch that fits me better. I started to go with
    a smaller frame Superlight, but after checking newsgroups, I
    found that the 17 inch worked. 18 months later, I'm still
    happy with my choice. The longer cockpit fits. Before I made
    a purchase, I rented one for 3 hours and went for a ride.
    Fit is everything. Do your homework, visit bike shops, check
    websites...keep posting your questions...and ride it before
    you buy. I think that Colorado Cyclist and Speedgoat have
    sizing information.

    Now when I ride my 15 inch Rockhopper, I realize that it was
    too small.

    I will never get another hard tail. I had an equipment
    problem and had to ride my hardtail the other day. I
    couldn't wait to get back on my full suspension. The full
    suspension soaks up the jolts and makes for a great ride.

    In summary, frame size is the key. Full Suspension is a
    plus, an expensive plus.

  9. "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 26 May 2004 21:47:40 +0200, Radley wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I never though I'd fall in love with Mountain biking,
    but after riding for 2 years, I think it's time to cough
    up the money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Yeah, that's usually when it happens.


    I consider it more an obsession.

  10. Thanks for the advice and thanks for the laughs on the sub-
    thread! ;D I'm going home ot the states this summer for a
    couple months, so I'll look for a bike there and go to a
    shop. NOw atleast I know I'll get a full bike. Hard-tail may
    be my choice because I have a lot of uphill. Are there any
    FS Bikes that don't compromise power while going up hill? I
    can go a little above my budget ;D Thanks again.
    --
    Radley www.radramirez.com

  11. "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Radley said:

    I live in Germany and there's plenty of hills, dirt
    paths, and rocky paths to bike on.


    snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I hate it when I am pedalling up a steep ass hill and
    try to switch gears and WHAM the gears slip or when


    I'm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    standing I hit my nards real real hard on the dang
    top bar.

    You shouldn't be trying to change gears when you're
    pedalling up a steep- ass hill. Even a better bike isn't
    going to fare well when you do that. Be in the right gear
    before you start.

    If only life was that easy, a nice unvarying gradient from
    base to the pass!! Most hills I ride on go steep then
    slacken then even steeper then drop and continue up. I'm
    constantly changing the lower gears and its real busy when
    climbing with overnight camping gear.

  12. "Radley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,

    I'm new to this group and am seeking advice on whether to
    buy a complete bike or buy it part by part.


    Snip...

    Quoted message said:

    riding for 2 years, I think it's time to cough up the
    money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    I'm open to any pointers!
    --
    Radley

    You want a nice small frame you say...
    ishop.co.ukshopscr620.html - scroll
    right down to the bottom. Please somebody buy it before I
    buy it and build it up as the lightest play bike ever...

    Steve.

    Steve.

  13. "spademan o---[) *"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Radley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    online.com...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,

    I'm new to this group and am seeking advice on whether
    to buy a complete bike or buy it part by part.


    Snip...

    Quoted message said:

    riding for 2 years, I think it's time to cough up the
    money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    I'm open to any pointers!
    --
    Radley

    You want a nice small frame you say...
    ishop.co.ukshopscr620.html - scroll
    right down to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    bottom. Please somebody buy it before I buy it and build
    it up as the lightest play bike ever...

    Steve.

    Steve.

    Aw man man Steve Steve! If that had the right dia. head tube
    and I had 500 squid tucked away, it'd be MINE! Reckon I
    could build it up tall like the BASE, but actually be able
    to carry it!

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  14. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Aw man man Steve Steve! If that had the right dia. head
    tube and I had


    500

    Quoted message said:

    squid tucked away, it'd be MINE! Reckon I could build it
    up tall like the BASE, but actually be able to carry it!

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

    Yep its THAT nice. By the way lakes ride now planned for
    Sunday 13th, answer your e-mail Shaun!

    Steve.

  15. taywood said:
    Quoted message said:

    You shouldn't be trying to change gears when you're
    pedalling up a steep- ass hill. Even a better bike isn't
    going to fare well when you do that. Be in the right gear
    before you start.

    If only life was that easy, a nice unvarying gradient from
    base to the pass!! Most hills I ride on go steep then
    slacken then even steeper then drop and continue up. I'm
    constantly changing the lower gears and its real busy when
    climbing with overnight camping gear.

    Sure, there are many like that where I live as well -
    single hills that are over 1000 feet. It would be quite
    possible to make a trail in one continuous gradient that is
    so steep that you can't shift, but it'd be impossible to
    climb! So there are steep sections that lead to ridges
    where the climb slackens.

    He was talking about the "steep ass" stuff; shifting when
    the climb slackens isn't much of an issue.

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
    address, at least)

  16. "Radley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,

    I'm new to this group and am seeking advice on whether to
    buy a complete bike or buy it part by part. I've been
    heavy trail riding for about two years on my cheap
    Diamondback Bike. I live in Germany and there's plenty


    of

    Quoted message said:

    hills, dirt paths, and rocky paths to bike on. The grades
    of the foot


    hills

    Quoted message said:

    range from steep to progressive climbs. What I feel is
    that I need a lighter bike and a good transmission. I
    hate it when I am pedalling up a steep ass hill and try
    to switch gears and WHAM the gears slip or when I'm
    standing I hit my nards real real hard on the dang top
    bar. I have no


    idea

    Quoted message said:

    what type of shimano gears it has, but it's got some cheap
    GRIPShifter. Now, I am in a dilema whether to buy a hard
    tail or a full suspension.


    I'd

    Quoted message said:

    like to try out some races around the area, but I know
    I'll get no where with my heavy Diamond back. Any advice
    from seasoned bikers will be a


    great

    Quoted message said:

    help. I never though I'd fall in love with Mountain
    biking, but after riding for 2 years, I think it's time to
    cough up the money for a bike that's around $1,000.

    Sucky part is I'm a short 5'4" and have a 28" inseam.
    Please no jokes


    about

    Quoted message said:

    kiddie bikes HEH HEH ;D

    I'm open to any pointers!

    --
    Radley


    Question for the newsgroup - is KHS still around, they used
    to make great Chromoly bike frames. My old KHS Comp is
    lighter than my much newer Kona Explosif , my son is riding
    and enjoying the KHS. It was a reasonably priced bike.

    Sniffinvinyl
    ----------------
    Remain sane, cycle your brains out . . .

  17. "SniffinVinyl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Question for the newsgroup - is KHS still around, they
    used to make great Chromoly bike frames. My old KHS Comp
    is lighter than my much newer Kona Explosif , my son is
    riding and enjoying the KHS. It was a reasonably


    priced

    Quoted message said:

    bike.

    They are still around:

    khsbicycles.comkhsbicycles.com

    I used to ride one many years ago. I beat the living hell
    out of it when I rode it until it finally decided to give up
    its ghost...

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

  18. "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    taywood said:
    Quoted message said:

    You shouldn't be trying to change gears when you're
    pedalling up a


    steep-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ass hill. Even a better bike isn't going to fare well
    when you do that.


    Be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in the right gear before you start.

    If only life was that easy, a nice unvarying gradient
    from base to the


    pass!!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Most hills I ride on go steep then slacken then even
    steeper then drop


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    continue up. I'm constantly changing the lower gears and
    its real busy when climbing


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    overnight camping gear.

    Sure, there are many like that where I live as well -
    single hills that are over 1000 feet. It would be quite
    possible to make a trail in one continuous gradient that
    is so steep that you can't shift, but it'd be impossible
    to climb! So there are steep sections that lead to ridges
    where the climb slackens.

    He was talking about the "steep ass" stuff; shifting when
    the climb slackens isn't much of an issue.

    Yep. I was trying to say I cant pick the 'right' gear at the
    start of the climb and expect to stay in it when the
    gradient steepens. We all experience that scary feeling when
    you sense the front wheel wants to lift, you need to change
    down once again, there may not be a gear there to change
    down to but you try. I was told once that in this desperate
    situation I should hold the shifter down and ease back off
    the pedal for a fraction of a second to give the chain
    chance to jump without pressure. Sometimes it works for me
    but usually I get that Wham that the OP described and
    continue up pushing/dragging the bike.

  19. taywood said:

    I was told once that in this desperate situation I should
    hold the shifter down and ease back off the pedal for a
    fraction of a second to give the chain chance to jump
    without pressure.

    Usually what I give it a quick burst of all out pedalling,
    much faster than I could ever maintain on that section,
    then use the momentary burst of speed for an easy shift
    (and then hopefully I'll have enough energy to recover from
    doing that!).

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
    address, at least)

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Radley said:

    Hard-tail may be my choice because I have a lot of
    uphill. Are there any FS Bikes that don't compromise
    power while going up hill? I can go a little above my
    budget ;D Thanks again.

    The lower-end FS bikes in your price range may not have the
    design for good climbing efficiency, but from what people
    have said, the Gary Fisher Sugar (and I think the Giant and
    Specialized bikes with Horst linkage) had good pedaling
    efficiency. I don't know if GF still makes the Sugar; I
    think it's been superseded by a new model. In any case, the
    key to climbing is to spin, rather than mash, the pedals to
    reduce bobbing.

    Van
    --
    Van Bagnol / v b a g n o l at earthlink dot net / c r l at
    bagnol dot com ...enjoys - Theatre / Windsurfing / Skydiving
    / Mountain Biking ...feels - "Parang lumalakad ako sa loob
    ng paniginip" ...thinks - "An Error is Not a Mistake ...
    Unless You Refuse to Correct It"

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