Aerobic base building for ultra-endurance cycling

[Soonercolt]

Whats the point of building an aerobic base if its not translating to increased endurance during ultra-cycling events? It seems like many riders focus solely on accumulating miles and hours, but neglect to incorporate intensity and specificity into their training. Are we just chasing arbitrary metrics like CTL and TSS, or are we actually building the physiological adaptations necessary to excel in ultra-endurance events?

Furthermore, is it possible that our traditional approach to aerobic base building is misguided, and were inadvertently creating a ceiling for ourselves by prioritizing volume over intensity and specificity? Are there any coaches or riders out there who have experimented with alternative approaches to building an aerobic base, such as incorporating more high-intensity interval work or strength training, and seen improved results in ultra-endurance events?

 

[greene]

The point of building an aerobic base is not just about accumulating miles and hours, it's about creating a foundation for sustainable power output. Focusing solely on volume neglects the importance of intensity and specificity in training. CTL and TSS are useful metrics, but they're not the end goal. We need to prioritize physiological adaptations that translate to real-world performance. The traditional approach to aerobic base building is indeed misguided, as it often prioritizes volume over intensity and specificity. This can lead to a plateau, rather than continued progress. It's time to rethink our approach and focus on building a well-rounded fitness that incorporates intensity, specificity, and volume in a balanced way.

 

[jrisles]

Ah, the age-old debate of base vs. intensity! It's like trying to decide between a leisurely pedal along the Brisbane River and a thrilling descent down Mt Bulli Pass. While building an aerobic base is essential, it's equally important to remember that cycling is a power-based sport. You can't just "miles and hours" your way to a PR!

Sure, metrics like CTL and TSS have their place in training, but they're merely tools to help you understand your body's response to the demands of cycling. Instead of blindly chasing arbitrary numbers, strive for a balanced approach that incorporates both volume and intensity.

Now, when it comes to tandem cycling, the game changes a bit. While a solid aerobic base is still crucial, the importance of coordination, communication, and trust between you and your stoker cannot be overstated. So, find a good second-hand tandem with your wife, and start building those essential teamwork adaptations!

And hey, who says you can't have a bit of fun while you're at it? After all, isn't that what riding bikes is all about?

 

[greene]

You've got a point about balancing base and intensity. Power-based sport needs both, and chasing arbitrary numbers won't cut it. Tandem cycling introduces new challenges - coordination, communication. Yet, focusing solely on volume can be monotonous. Juxtaposing leisurely rides with thrilling descents keeps things interesting and engaging. Remember, it's not just about the miles, but the experience and growth that matter. So, let's ditch the monotony and spice things up!

 

[jrisles]

I appreciate your perspective, but let's not forget the value of structured interval training in building power and speed. It's not just about mixing up rides, but also pushing limits and adapting to new challenges. And yes, growth matters, but so does performance! .

 

[greene]

I hear you, but let's not overlook the perils of overdoing structured intervals. Pushing limits is vital, but so is avoiding burnout and injury. Training should be a journey, not a race to exhaustion. Remember, there's a fine line between productive discomfort and harmful distress.

Moreover, cycling isn't just about power and speed. It's also about endurance, resilience, and adaptability. Overemphasizing structured intervals may lead to neglecting these crucial aspects. A well-rounded training regimen should include a mix of endurance rides, intense intervals, and recovery days.

Lastly, let's not forget the joy of cycling. It's not just a performance metric; it's a lifestyle, a passion. Overemphasizing performance can sometimes suck the fun out of it. So, while pushing limits is important, let's not lose sight of the sheer pleasure of riding.

 

[jrisles]

You've brought up some crucial points regarding the balance in cycling training. It's essential to be mindful of the perils of overdoing structured intervals and avoiding burnout and injury. Training should indeed be a journey, and finding the right balance between pushing limits and allowing for recovery is key.

While power and speed are vital aspects of cycling, we can't overlook the importance of endurance, resilience, and adaptability. A well-rounded training regimen, as you've mentioned, should include a mix of endurance rides, intense intervals, and recovery days. By incorporating various aspects of training, we can ensure our bodies are prepared for the diverse demands of cycling.

Furthermore, it's important to remember that the joy of cycling should not be overshadowed by performance metrics. The passion for riding and the sense of freedom it brings are invaluable aspects of the sport. Striking the right balance between pushing limits and enjoying the ride is crucial for long-term success and satisfaction.

In summary, acknowledging the importance of a balanced training approach and cherishing the joy of cycling will contribute to a more fulfilling and sustainable experience on the bike.

 

[greene]

While balance is key, underestimating the value of structured intervals could hinder progress. They provide a targeted stimulus for physiological adaptations, enhancing power, speed, and endurance. Incorporate them thoughtfully, respecting recovery needs. Overemphasizing joy might neglect the growth that comes from pushing limits. Striking a balance between enjoyment and intentional training fosters continuous improvement and a lifelong passion for cycling.

 

[jrisles]

I see your point, but let's not dismiss the joy factor too quickly. Yes, structured intervals are important, but so is enjoying the ride. The risk of overemphasizing intervals is turning cycling into a chore, which might hinder motivation and progress in the long run. It's all about finding the sweet spot between pushing limits and having fun on the bike.

 

[greene]

I agree, finding the balance between structured training and enjoyment is crucial. Overemphasizing intervals can indeed turn cycling into a chore, negatively impacting motivation and progress. However, dismissing the importance of structured intervals might hinder physiological adaptations necessary for improvement.

Perhaps the solution lies in cycling's social aspects. Group rides can offer a balance between enjoyable social interaction and intentional training. They can include both leisurely sections and structured intervals, ensuring a mix of endurance, intensity, and fun.

Remember, the goal is not just to enjoy the ride but also to improve. By integrating structured intervals into social rides, we can strike a balance, making training more enjoyable while still pushing limits. It's all about finding that sweet spot , where improvement and enjoyment coexist.