Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem).
I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, lipid profile, all within normal range.
I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening.
Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of sleep and was a bit depressed over it.
Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated.
Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem).
I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, lipid profile, all within normal range.
I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening.
Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of sleep and was a bit depressed over it.
Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated.
You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about this.
Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem).
I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, lipid profile, all within normal range.
I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening.
Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of sleep and was a bit depressed over it.
Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated.
You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about this.
I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take Toprol XL 50mg.
Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem).
I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, lipid profile, all within normal range.
I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening.
Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of sleep and was a bit depressed over it.
Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated.
You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about this.
I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take Toprol XL 50mg.
You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about it.
> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying > "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, > converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). > > I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months > ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, > lipid profile, all within normal range. > > I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated > idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, > doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. > > Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have > the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of > sleep and was a bit depressed over it. > > Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated.
You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about this.
I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take Toprol XL 50mg.
You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about it.
Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I up the Toprol to 50mg.
I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering the dosage and how it relates to AIVR?
How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:43:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>[email hidden] wrote: > >> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying >> "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, >> converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). >> >> I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months >> ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, >> lipid profile, all within normal range. >> >> I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated >> idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, >> doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. >> >> Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have >> the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of >> sleep and was a bit depressed over it. >> >> Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated. > >You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about >this.
I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take Toprol XL 50mg.
You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about it.
Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I up the Toprol to 50mg.
I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering the dosage and how it relates to AIVR?
How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is?
You might want to read all the posts here before you listen to his advice. Several people have posted many published articles that contradict his views. Be careful.
Listen, you can believe or disbelieve any information you get on this board, thats entirely up to you, however, any responses by Dr, Chung have been short, sweet and on the money. Whether you like some of the things he says or not has nothing to do with the fact that in cardiology he knows his stuff...
Listen, you can believe or disbelieve any information you get on this board, thats entirely up to you, however, any responses by Dr, Chung have been short, sweet and on the money. Whether you like some of the things he says or not has nothing to do with the fact that in cardiology he knows his stuff...
If it is so good, then why is his "stuff" contradicted by so many published papers? Is he right and are the published papers wrong?
The issue is cardiology advice and yes screen your studies, many are biased and incorrect. Look to see who is doing the study and what the connection is. ETC. Every year we hear of studies and every year the studies are reversed and last years wonders become this years nightmares. Havent you noticed the trend.
The issue is cardiology advice and yes screen your studies, many are biased and incorrect. Look to see who is doing the study and what the connection is. ETC.
You seem to imply that the published papers are wrong and he is right. Is that what you are suggesting? Is he right and are the many published papers wrong?
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Every year we hear of studies and every year the studies are reversed and last years wonders become this years nightmares.
Well, if I apply your logic, maybe all those things about statins being bad might be true next year. That would be a nightmare, wouldn't it.
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:43:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >[email hidden] wrote: > > > >> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying > >> "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, > >> converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). > >> > >> I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months > >> ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, > >> lipid profile, all within normal range. > >> > >> I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated > >> idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, > >> doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. > >> > >> Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have > >> the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of > >> sleep and was a bit depressed over it. > >> > >> Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated. > > > >You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about > >this. > > I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take > Toprol XL 50mg.
You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about it.
Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I up the Toprol to 50mg.
I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering the dosage and how it relates to AIVR?
How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is?
You might want to read all the posts here before you listen to his advice. Several people have posted many published articles that contradict his views. Be careful.
Dave
I've been reading , an occasionally contributing to, this ng for a long time and I think I'm old enough to determine who to listen to (and who not to).
For example, your reply was not helpful and unfortunately has taken the thread into a meaningless pro/con direction.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:43:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>[email hidden] wrote: > >> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying >> "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, >> converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). >> >> I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months >> ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, >> lipid profile, all within normal range. >> >> I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated >> idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, >> doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. >> >> Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have >> the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of >> sleep and was a bit depressed over it. >> >> Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated. > >You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about >this.
I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take Toprol XL 50mg.
You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about it.
Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I up the Toprol to 50mg.
I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering the dosage and how it relates to AIVR?
An underlying AIVR of 50 bpm will not appear if the sinus rate is more normal at greater than 60 bpm.
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How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is?
What is AIVR?
A regular heart rhythm that arises from the lower chambers (ventricles) of the heart.
What causes AIVR?
Heart muscle cell(s) in the ventricles that have intrinsic pacemaker activity.
What is the treatment for AIVR?
When symptomatic, back off on any medications that may slow the atrial rate.
Listen, you can believe or disbelieve any information you get on this board, thats entirely up to you, however, any responses by Dr, Chung have been short, sweet and on the money. Whether you like some of the things he says or not has nothing to do with the fact that in cardiology he knows his stuff...
If it is so good, then why is his "stuff" contradicted by so many published papers?
There are "good" studies and then there are "bad" studies.
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Is he right and are the published papers wrong?
He writes truthfully. Some published papers either present erroneous data or offer erroneous interpretations of "good" data.
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 04:55:03 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>[email hidden] wrote: > >> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:43:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >[email hidden] wrote: >> > >> >> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying >> >> "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, >> >> converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). >> >> >> >> I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months >> >> ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, >> >> lipid profile, all within normal range. >> >> >> >> I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated >> >> idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, >> >> doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. >> >> >> >> Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have >> >> the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of >> >> sleep and was a bit depressed over it. >> >> >> >> Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated. >> > >> >You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about >> >this. >> >> I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take >> Toprol XL 50mg. > >You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have >been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about >it.
Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I up the Toprol to 50mg.
I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering the dosage and how it relates to AIVR?
How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is?
You might want to read all the posts here before you listen to his advice. Several people have posted many published articles that contradict his views. Be careful.
Dave
I've been reading , an occasionally contributing to, this ng for a long time and I think I'm old enough to determine who to listen to (and who not to).
I have no idea how long you have been reading the group, nor your age. I was just trying to give you a quick heads up in case you have not been following the group. There was quite a bit of additional information I was going to pass on to you, specific to your problems, but I did not have it handy at the time. I'm sorry you were upset by my trying to help, and I will avoid doing that in the future.
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:37:21 -0500, [email hidden] wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 04:55:03 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>[email hidden] wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:43:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>> >[email hidden] wrote: >>> > >>> >> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying >>> >> "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, >>> >> converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). >>> >> >>> >> I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months >>> >> ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, >>> >> lipid profile, all within normal range. >>> >> >>> >> I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated >>> >> idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, >>> >> doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. >>> >> >>> >> Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have >>> >> the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of >>> >> sleep and was a bit depressed over it. >>> >> >>> >> Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated. >>> > >>> >You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about >>> >this. >>> >>> I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take >>> Toprol XL 50mg. >> >>You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have >>been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about >>it. > > Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the >doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I >up the Toprol to 50mg. > >I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering >the dosage and how it relates to AIVR? > >How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is?
You might want to read all the posts here before you listen to his advice. Several people have posted many published articles that contradict his views. Be careful.
Dave
I've been reading , an occasionally contributing to, this ng for a long time and I think I'm old enough to determine who to listen to (and who not to).
I have no idea how long you have been reading the group, nor your age. I was just trying to give you a quick heads up in case you have not been following the group. There was quite a bit of additional information I was going to pass on to you, specific to your problems, but I did not have it handy at the time. I'm sorry you were upset by my trying to help, and I will avoid doing that in the future.
Dave
Oh, I see. You didn't have this specific info (quite a bit!) handy when you decided to warn me about Dr. Chung. A warning that I did not want or need. Now, apparently you have it handy but have decided to withhold it from me and the group.
Dave, you've just proved to many news- group members that your posts are the ones that are not credable.Don't waste your breath on any more nasty remarks cause nobody will listen.
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:37:21 -0500, [email hidden] wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 04:55:03 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>[email hidden] wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:43:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>> >[email hidden] wrote: >>> > >>> >> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying >>> >> "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, >>> >> converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). >>> >> >>> >> I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months >>> >> ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, >>> >> lipid profile, all within normal range. >>> >> >>> >> I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated >>> >> idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, >>> >> doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. >>> >> >>> >> Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have >>> >> the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of >>> >> sleep and was a bit depressed over it. >>> >> >>> >> Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated. >>> > >>> >You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about >>> >this. >>> >>> I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take >>> Toprol XL 50mg. >> >>You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have >>been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about >>it. > > Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the >doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I >up the Toprol to 50mg. > >I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering >the dosage and how it relates to AIVR? > >How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is?
You might want to read all the posts here before you listen to his advice. Several people have posted many published articles that contradict his views. Be careful.
Dave
I've been reading , an occasionally contributing to, this ng for a long time and I think I'm old enough to determine who to listen to (and who not to).
I have no idea how long you have been reading the group, nor your age. I was just trying to give you a quick heads up in case you have not been following the group. There was quite a bit of additional information I was going to pass on to you, specific to your problems, but I did not have it handy at the time. I'm sorry you were upset by my trying to help, and I will avoid doing that in the future.
You might want to read all the posts here before you listen to his advice. Several people have posted many published articles that contradict his views. Be careful.....
.....of those who hide their IP addresses via anonymous Usenet services.
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:41:25 -0800, [email hidden] wrote:
>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:37:21 -0500, [email hidden] wrote: > >>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 04:55:03 GMT, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>[email hidden] wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:43:18 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >>>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >[email hidden] wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Had a 24-hour Holter on Tuesday after a week of constant annoying >>>> >> "palpitations". (I have had 2 -3 afib episodes per year since 2001, >>>> >> converted on my own or with the help of Cardizem). >>>> >> >>>> >> I recently switched to a new cardiologist when I moved a few months >>>> >> ago and was evaluated by himat that time: echo, echo-stress, PFT, >>>> >> lipid profile, all within normal range. >>>> >> >>>> >> I just heard from him and he said the Holter showed "accelerated >>>> >> idioventricular rhythm at the rate of 50" and that it's self-limiting, >>>> >> doesn't require any particular treatment and is not life-threatening. >>>> >> >>>> >> Ironically, today was the first day in over a week that I did not have >>>> >> the palpitations...but it has been one heck of a week. I lost a lot of >>>> >> sleep and was a bit depressed over it. >>>> >> >>>> >> Any helpful comments & suggestions would be appreciated. >>>> > >>>> >You may be on too much cardizem. Would suggest you ask your doctor about >>>> >this. >>>> >>>> I only took Cardizem when I had the afib episodes. Daily, I take >>>> Toprol XL 50mg. >>> >>>You may be on too much Toprol. An AIVR of 50 means your atrial rate must have >>>been very slow (less than 50). Again, would suggest you ask your doctor about >>>it. >> >> Actually, I was only taking 25mg of Toprol daily. When I called the >>doctor last week to tell him about the "palpitations" he suggested I >>up the Toprol to 50mg. >> >>I don't understand. Could you explain why you're suggesting lowering >>the dosage and how it relates to AIVR? >> >>How do you describe what it is, its causes and what your treatment is? > >You might want to read all the posts here before you listen to his >advice. Several people have posted many published articles that >contradict his views. Be careful. > >Dave
I've been reading , an occasionally contributing to, this ng for a long time and I think I'm old enough to determine who to listen to (and who not to).
I have no idea how long you have been reading the group, nor your age. I was just trying to give you a quick heads up in case you have not been following the group. There was quite a bit of additional information I was going to pass on to you, specific to your problems, but I did not have it handy at the time. I'm sorry you were upset by my trying to help, and I will avoid doing that in the future.
Dave
Oh, I see. You didn't have this specific info (quite a bit!) handy when you decided to warn me about Dr. Chung. A warning that I did not want or need. Now, apparently you have it handy but have decided to withhold it from me and the group.
Nice.
I suspect he's the one who has been trying to impersonate me (based on the header path information). Being that impersonating a physician is a crime, his days are numbered.
Psalm 37 helps me forgive him. May Psalm 37 help you too.
