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  1. J Diabetes Complications. 2004 Mar-Apr;18(2):79-85. Related Articles, Links

    Clinical experience with thioctacid (thioctic acid) in the
    treatment of distal symmetric polyneuropathy in Korean
    diabetic patients.

    Ryeal Hahm J, Kim BJ, Kim KW.

    Department of Internal Medicine, College of Medicine,
    Gyeongsang Institute of Health Science, Gyeongsang National
    University, Jinju, South Korea.

    Objective: This open-label study was performed to evaluate
    the efficacy and safety of oral treatment with the
    antioxidant alpha-lipoic acid (ALA, thioctic acid) in Korean
    diabetic patients with distal symmetric polyneuropathy
    (DSP). Subjects and Methods: Thioctic acid was administered
    orally using 600 mg once daily for 8 weeks in 61 diabetic
    patients with symptomatic polyneuropathy. Neuropathic
    symptoms (pain, burning sensation, paresthesia, and
    numbness) were scored at baseline as well as at 4 and 8
    weeks following treatment. In addition, neurological
    assessment was carried out before and after 8 weeks of
    treatment, and an overall evaluation was performed at the
    end of treatment. The primary endpoint was the response rate
    after 8 weeks of treatment, defined as an improvement in the
    Total Symptom Score (TSS) of >/=30%. Results: Efficacy was
    evaluated in 38 patients who had completed the study
    according to the protocol. Safety was evaluated in all 61
    patients who had taken the study medication. Fasting blood
    glucose and HbA(1)c did not change during the study. The
    response rate after 8 weeks was 71.4%. At 4 weeks, the
    response rate was
    47.4%. The TSS significantly decreased at 4 weeks, which
    decreased further at 8 weeks (P<.05). All the individual
    scores for neuropathic symptoms (pain, burning sensation,
    paresthesia, and numbness) were also significantly
    reduced at 4 weeks and further decreased at 8 weeks
    (P<.05). The duration of diabetes, severity and duration
    of diabetic polyneuropathy, and all the other demographic
    and metabolic parameters did not demonstrate an effect on
    the response rate. The parameters of neurological
    assessment (ankle reflexes, pin-[censored] test, 10-g
    monofilament test) and quantitative sensory tests
    (vibration, warm and cold sensation) were not influenced
    by 8 weeks of treatment with 600 mg of oral thioctic acid
    per day. Overall efficacy rated as "good/fair" was 86.8%
    by the physician and 76.3% by the patients at the end of
    an 8-week treatment period. Eleven episodes (18.0%) of
    adverse events (possibly, probably, definitely related)
    were reported in seven patients (11.5%). Conclusion:
    These findings indicate that oral treatment with thioctic
    acid at a dose of 600 mg/day for 8 weeks improved
    symptoms of polyneuropathy in Korean diabetic patients
    without causing serious adverse events.

    PMID: 15120701 [PubMed - in process]

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    lpi.oregonstate.edusuh.html

    The Antioxidant Activities of Vitamin C and Lipoic Acid in
    the Body Jung Suh LPI Graduate Fellow

    <<snip>> Aside from their potent antioxidant function,
    lipoic acid and dihydrolipoic acid can chelate free metal
    ions, such as iron and copper, in vitro, resulting in the
    loss of their potentially harmful reactivity, probably
    through subsequent excretion. Lipoic acid may be a safe and
    effective means to lower the age-related increase in iron
    content. <<snip>>

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  2. Do you have polyneuropathy"? This is most often associated
    with diabetes. Do you know low iron levels sometimes go with
    diabetes also?

    Quoted message said:

    J Diabetes Complications. 2004 Mar-Apr;18(2):79-85.
    Related Articles, Links

    Clinical experience with thioctacid (thioctic acid) in the
    treatment of distal symmetric polyneuropathy in Korean
    diabetic patients.

    Ryeal Hahm J, Kim BJ, Kim KW.

    Department of Internal Medicine, College of Medicine,
    Gyeongsang Institute of Health Science, Gyeongsang National
    University, Jinju, South Korea.

    Objective: This open-label study was performed to evaluate
    the efficacy and safety of oral treatment with the
    antioxidant alpha-lipoic acid (ALA, thioctic acid) in
    Korean diabetic patients with distal symmetric
    polyneuropathy (DSP). Subjects and Methods: Thioctic acid
    was administered orally using 600 mg once daily for 8 weeks
    in 61 diabetic patients with symptomatic polyneuropathy.
    Neuropathic symptoms (pain, burning sensation, paresthesia,
    and numbness) were scored at baseline as well as at 4 and 8
    weeks following treatment. In addition, neurological
    assessment was carried out before and after 8 weeks of
    treatment, and an overall evaluation was performed at the
    end of treatment. The primary endpoint was the response
    rate after 8 weeks of treatment, defined as an improvement
    in the Total Symptom Score (TSS) of >/=30%. Results:
    Efficacy was evaluated in 38 patients who had completed the
    study according to the protocol. Safety was evaluated in
    all 61 patients who had taken the study medication. Fasting
    blood glucose and HbA(1)c did not change during the study.
    The response rate after 8 weeks was 71.4%. At 4 weeks, the
    response rate was
    47.4%. The TSS significantly decreased at 4 weeks, which
    decreased further at 8 weeks (P<.05). All the individual
    scores for neuropathic symptoms (pain, burning
    sensation, paresthesia, and numbness) were also
    significantly reduced at 4 weeks and further decreased
    at 8 weeks (P<.05). The duration of diabetes, severity
    and duration of diabetic polyneuropathy, and all the
    other demographic and metabolic parameters did not
    demonstrate an effect on the response rate. The
    parameters of neurological assessment (ankle reflexes,
    pin-[censored] test, 10-g monofilament test) and quantitative
    sensory tests (vibration, warm and cold sensation) were
    not influenced by 8 weeks of treatment with 600 mg of
    oral thioctic acid per day. Overall efficacy rated as
    "good/fair" was 86.8% by the physician and 76.3% by the
    patients at the end of an 8-week treatment period.
    Eleven episodes (18.0%) of adverse events (possibly,
    probably, definitely related) were reported in seven
    patients (11.5%). Conclusion: These findings indicate
    that oral treatment with thioctic acid at a dose of 600
    mg/day for 8 weeks improved symptoms of polyneuropathy
    in Korean diabetic patients without causing serious
    adverse events.

    PMID: 15120701 [PubMed - in process]

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    lpi.oregonstate.edusuh.html

    The Antioxidant Activities of Vitamin C and Lipoic Acid in
    the Body Jung Suh LPI Graduate Fellow

    <<snip>> Aside from their potent antioxidant function,
    lipoic acid and dihydrolipoic acid can chelate free metal
    ions, such as iron and copper, in vitro, resulting in the
    loss of their potentially harmful reactivity, probably
    through subsequent excretion. Lipoic acid may be a safe and
    effective means to lower the age-related increase in iron
    content. <<snip>>

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  3. Thanks!

    Excellent article.

    I have read that excess vitamin C will enhance the
    absorption of iron, so anyone wanting to reduce iron should
    limit the consumption of Vit
    C.

    GT

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    lpi.oregonstate.edusuh.html

    The Antioxidant Activities of Vitamin C and Lipoic Acid
    in the Body Jung Suh LPI Graduate Fellow

    <<snip>> Aside from their potent antioxidant function,
    lipoic acid and


    dihydrolipoic

    Quoted message said:

    acid can chelate free metal ions, such as iron and copper,
    in vitro,


    resulting

    Quoted message said:

    in the loss of their potentially harmful reactivity,
    probably


    through

    Quoted message said:

    subsequent excretion. Lipoic acid may be a safe and
    effective means to lower the


    age-related increase

    Quoted message said:

    in iron content. <<snip>>

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    jesuswasavegetarian.7h.comjesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore!


    pages.ivillage.commanisaherbivore

    Quoted message said:

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  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: alpha-lipoic acid / diabetic polyneuropathy
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 5/5/2004 11:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Do you have polyneuropathy"?

    Do you know what polyneuropathy .. is .. ?

    Quoted message said:

    This is most often associated with diabetes.

    Hence diabetes .. mentioned ..

    Good guess ..

    Quoted message said:

    Do you know low iron levels sometimes go with
    diabetes also?

    You are full of [censored] ..

    So .. take a fkg .. hike ..

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    J Diabetes Complications. 2004 Mar-Apr;18(2):79-85.
    Related Articles,


    Links

    Quoted message said:

    Clinical experience with thioctacid (thioctic acid) in the
    treatment of


    distal

    Quoted message said:

    symmetric polyneuropathy in Korean diabetic patients.

    Ryeal Hahm J, Kim BJ, Kim KW.

    Department of Internal Medicine, College of Medicine,
    Gyeongsang Institute


    of

    Quoted message said:

    Health Science, Gyeongsang National University, Jinju,
    South Korea.

    Objective: This open-label study was performed to evaluate
    the efficacy and safety of oral treatment with the
    antioxidant alpha-lipoic acid (ALA,


    thioctic

    Quoted message said:

    acid) in Korean diabetic patients with distal symmetric
    polyneuropathy


    (DSP).

    Quoted message said:

    Subjects and Methods: Thioctic acid was administered
    orally using 600 mg


    once

    Quoted message said:

    daily for 8 weeks in 61 diabetic patients with symptomatic
    polyneuropathy. Neuropathic symptoms (pain, burning
    sensation, paresthesia, and numbness)


    were

    Quoted message said:

    scored at baseline as well as at 4 and 8 weeks following
    treatment. In addition, neurological assessment was
    carried out before and after 8 weeks


    of

    Quoted message said:

    treatment, and an overall evaluation was performed at the
    end of treatment.


    The

    Quoted message said:

    primary endpoint was the response rate after 8 weeks of
    treatment, defined


    as

    Quoted message said:

    an improvement in the Total Symptom Score (TSS) of >/=30%.
    Results: Efficacy was evaluated in 38 patients who had
    completed the study according to the protocol. Safety was
    evaluated in all 61 patients who had taken the study
    medication. Fasting blood glucose and HbA(1)c did not
    change during the


    study.

    Quoted message said:

    The response rate after 8 weeks was 71.4%. At 4 weeks, the
    response rate was
    47.4%. The TSS significantly decreased at 4 weeks, which
    decreased further


    at 8

    Quoted message said:

    weeks (P<.05). All the individual scores for neuropathic
    symptoms (pain, burning sensation, paresthesia, and
    numbness) were also significantly


    reduced

    Quoted message said:

    at 4 weeks and further decreased at 8 weeks (P<.05). The
    duration of


    diabetes,

    Quoted message said:

    severity and duration of diabetic polyneuropathy, and all
    the other


    demographic

    Quoted message said:

    and metabolic parameters did not demonstrate an effect on
    the response rate. The parameters of neurological
    assessment (ankle reflexes, pin-[censored] test,


    10-g

    Quoted message said:

    monofilament test) and quantitative sensory tests
    (vibration, warm and cold sensation) were not influenced
    by 8 weeks of treatment with 600 mg of oral thioctic
    acid per day. Overall efficacy rated as "good/fair" was
    86.8% by


    the

    Quoted message said:

    physician and 76.3% by the patients at the end of an 8-
    week treatment


    period.

    Quoted message said:

    Eleven episodes (18.0%) of adverse events (possibly,
    probably, definitely related) were reported in seven
    patients (11.5%). Conclusion: These findings indicate
    that oral treatment with thioctic acid at a dose of 600
    mg/day for


    8

    Quoted message said:

    weeks improved symptoms of polyneuropathy in Korean
    diabetic patients


    without

    Quoted message said:

    causing serious adverse events.

    PMID: 15120701 [PubMed - in process]

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------
    ------

    lpi.oregonstate.edusuh.html

    The Antioxidant Activities of Vitamin C and Lipoic Acid
    in the Body Jung Suh LPI Graduate Fellow

    <<snip>> Aside from their potent antioxidant function,
    lipoic acid and dihydrolipoic acid can chelate free metal
    ions, such as iron and copper, in vitro,


    resulting

    Quoted message said:

    in the loss of their potentially harmful reactivity,
    probably through subsequent excretion. Lipoic acid may be
    a safe and effective means to lower the age-related


    increase

    Quoted message said:

    in iron content. <<snip>>

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  5. He was going for a link between the deminished nerve damage
    and ala as possibily lowering iron by juxtaposing the two
    bits of info. There are too many problems of logic and fact
    to address, he failed. Tom, is that you? . Anyone thinking
    iron a possible problem should have the tests done.
    Guessing and self "medicating" is a risky approch when
    doing so blindly.

    Quoted message said:

    Excellent article.

    I have read that excess vitamin C will enhance the
    absorption of iron, so anyone wanting to reduce iron should
    limit the consumption of Vit
    C.

    GT

    Quoted message said:

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    -----------


    ------

    Quoted message said:

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    lpi.oregonstate.edusuh.html

    The Antioxidant Activities of Vitamin C and Lipoic Acid
    in the Body Jung Suh LPI Graduate Fellow

    <<snip>> Aside from their potent antioxidant function,
    lipoic acid and


    dihydrolipoic

    Quoted message said:

    acid can chelate free metal ions, such as iron and
    copper, in vitro,


    resulting

    Quoted message said:

    in the loss of their potentially harmful reactivity,
    probably


    through

    Quoted message said:

    subsequent excretion. Lipoic acid may be a safe and
    effective means to lower the


    age-related increase

    Quoted message said:

    in iron content. <<snip>>

    Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
    jesuswasavegetarian.7h.comjesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore!


    pages.ivillage.commanisaherbivore

    Quoted message said:

    DEAD PEOPLE WALKING


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  6. Good, then unless you are in the 2 percent of the
    population, from info Tom provides, who have iron stores too
    high, then you need not worry about the question. Tom, is
    that you? Would you mind sharing the numbers with us, it
    would be instructive for all of us to see an example of how
    iron is measured and the normal range of it's stores.

    Quoted message said:

    I've had the tests done.

    Take a hike.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    net.com...

    Quoted message said:


    He was going for a link between the deminished nerve
    damage and ala as possibily lowering iron by juxtaposing
    the two bits of info.


    There

    Quoted message said:

    are too many problems of logic and fact to address, he
    failed. Tom,


    is

    Quoted message said:

    that you? . Anyone thinking iron a possible problem
    should have the


    tests

    Quoted message said:

    done. Guessing and self "medicating" is a risky approch
    when doing


    so

    Quoted message said:

    blindly.

    Quoted message said:

    Excellent article.

    I have read that excess vitamin C will enhance the
    absorption of


    iron,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so anyone wanting to reduce iron should limit the
    consumption of


    Vit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    C.

    GT

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    > lpi.oregonstate.edusuh.html
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    >
    >
    > The Antioxidant Activities of Vitamin C and Lipoic
    > Acid in the


    Body

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Jung Suh LPI Graduate Fellow
    >
    > <<snip>> Aside from their potent antioxidant function,
    > lipoic acid and
    dihydrolipoic
    > acid can chelate free metal ions, such as iron and
    > copper, in


    vitro,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    resulting
    > in the loss of their potentially harmful reactivity,
    > probably
    through
    > subsequent excretion. Lipoic acid may be a safe and
    > effective means to lower the
    age-related increase
    > in iron content. <<snip>>
    >
    > Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
    > jesuswasavegetarian.7h.comjesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore!
    pages.ivillage.commanisaherbivore
    > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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    >
    >


  7. I've had the tests done.

    Take a hike.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    net.com...

    Quoted message said:


    He was going for a link between the deminished nerve
    damage and ala as possibily lowering iron by juxtaposing
    the two bits of info.


    There

    Quoted message said:

    are too many problems of logic and fact to address, he
    failed. Tom,


    is

    Quoted message said:

    that you? . Anyone thinking iron a possible problem should
    have the


    tests

    Quoted message said:

    done. Guessing and self "medicating" is a risky approch
    when doing


    so

    Quoted message said:

    blindly.

    Quoted message said:

    Excellent article.

    I have read that excess vitamin C will enhance the
    absorption of


    iron,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so anyone wanting to reduce iron should limit the
    consumption of


    Vit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    C.

    GT

    Quoted message said:

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    lpi.oregonstate.edusuh.html

    The Antioxidant Activities of Vitamin C and Lipoic
    Acid in the


    Body

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Jung Suh LPI Graduate Fellow

    <<snip>> Aside from their potent antioxidant function,
    lipoic acid and


    dihydrolipoic

    Quoted message said:

    acid can chelate free metal ions, such as iron and
    copper, in


    vitro,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    resulting

    Quoted message said:

    in the loss of their potentially harmful reactivity,
    probably


    through

    Quoted message said:

    subsequent excretion. Lipoic acid may be a safe and
    effective means to lower the


    age-related increase

    Quoted message said:

    in iron content. <<snip>>

    Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
    jesuswasavegetarian.7h.comjesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore!


    pages.ivillage.commanisaherbivore

    Quoted message said:

    DEAD PEOPLE WALKING


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