am i vegan?

"Vaine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I started becoming a vegan aboot 2-3 monthes ago, I
changed my diet, and became more aware aboot the
enviroment around me. Im becoming involved

with

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animal rights group, but after my friends had found out
wat i started doin they researched it. I consider myself
"vegan" but some of friends say im

not

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because i wear a leather braclet with shells on it from
kenya and leather sandals, both hold somewat of a
sintemintal value, and both being gifts

from

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my brothers.

So, in u ppls opinion am i considered vegan or not?

lots of vegans still wear leather that they had before they
went vegan, and some feel comfortable wearing second-hand
leather as well. they just don't buy new leather, unless
they absolutely have to. throwing out old stuff when it's
still useful and when it has sentimental value is wasteful,
especially with shoes, which are harder for someone else to
re-use. so hey, you might face some criticism for wearing
that stuff, but it'd be crappier for the environment to toss
em' and buy a new product.

Vaine said:

I started becoming a vegan aboot 2-3 monthes ago, I
changed my diet, and became more aware aboot the
enviroment around me.

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life,
people get over 500 pounds of human consumable
meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass
raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings.
Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and
in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields,
one meal of soy or rice based product is likely to involve
more animal deaths than hundreds of meals derived from
grass raised cattle. Grass raised cattle products
contribute to less wildlife deaths, better wildlife
habitat, and better lives for cattle than soy or rice
products. ·

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Im becoming involved with animal rights group,

"Animal Rights" only has two things to "offer": The
elimination of domestic animals The elimination of human
wildlife population management

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but after my friends had found out wat i started doin they
researched it. I consider myself "vegan" but some of
friends say im not because i wear a leather braclet with
shells on it from kenya and leather sandals, both hold
somewat of a sintemintal value, and both being gifts from
my brothers.

So, in u ppls opinion am i considered vegan or not?

· Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use
of wood and paper products, and roads and all types of
buildings, and by their own diet just as everyone else
does. What vegans try to avoid are products which provide
life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they
would have to avoid the following in order to be
successful:
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Tires, Surgical sutures, Matches, Soaps, Photographic film,
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Toothpaste, Deodorants, Mouthwash, Paper, Upholstery, Floor
waxes, Glass, Water Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze

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Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen, Heparin, Insulin,
Pancreatin, Thrombin, Vasopressin, Vitamin B-12, Asphalt,
auto and jet lubricants, outboard engine oil, high-
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contact-lens care products, glues for paper and cardboard
cartons, bookbinding glue, clarification of wines,
Hemostats, sunscreens and sunblocks, dental floss,
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Explosives, Solvents, Industrial Oils, Industrial
Lubricants, Stearic Acid, Biodegradable Detergents,
Herbicides, Syringes, Gelatin Capsules, Bandage Strips,
Combs and Toothbrushes, Emery Boards and Cloth, Adhesive
Tape, Laminated Wood Products, Plywood and Paneling,
Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane Wrap and Tape,
Adhesive Tape, Abrasives, Bone Charcoal for High Grade
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The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die in it as they do in
any other habitat. They also depend on it for their lives
like the animals in any other habitat. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in
the future. From the life and death of a thousand pound
grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during
his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable
meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of
servings of dairy products. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding
and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based
product is likely to involve more animal deaths than
hundreds of servings derived from grass raised cattle. Grass
raised cattle products contribute to less wildlife deaths,
better wildlife habitat, and decent lives for cattle. ·

Vaine said:

I started becoming a vegan aboot 2-3 monthes ago, I
changed my diet, and became more aware aboot the
enviroment around me. Im becoming involved with animal
rights group, but after my friends had found out wat i
started doin they researched it. I consider myself "vegan"
but some of friends say im not because i wear a leather
braclet with shells on it from kenya and leather sandals,
both hold somewat of a sintemintal value, and both being
gifts from my brothers.

So, in u ppls opinion am i considered vegan or not?

its your only decision. i mean for my opinion i say its not
vegan to wear leather. but i did it like when i still have
something from leather i wear it but i wont buy anything new
in leather and try to sort out...maybe thats a idea

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rest of the world mirror it." /( )\ -- Linus Torvalds,
after a hard drive crash ^^-^^

"Vaine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started becoming a vegan aboot 2-3 monthes ago, I
changed my diet, and became more aware aboot the
enviroment around me. Im becoming involved

with

Quoted message said:

animal rights group, but after my friends had found out
wat i started doin they researched it. I consider myself
"vegan" but some of friends say im

not

Quoted message said:

because i wear a leather braclet with shells on it from
kenya and leather sandals, both hold somewat of a
sintemintal value, and both being gifts

from

Quoted message said:

my brothers.

So, in u ppls opinion am i considered vegan or not?

It's not genuinely vegan (or a good idea in general) to
waste things. As I'm sure reading any of Rick etter's posts
will tell you, producing things and shipping them costs
animal lives, no matter what they're made of. Use what you
have until it wears out, then, and only then, buy cruelty
free/vegan alternatives.

-Rubystars

Vaine said:

I started becoming a vegan aboot 2-3 monthes ago, I
changed my diet, and became more aware aboot the
enviroment around me. Im becoming involved with animal
rights group, but after my friends had found out wat i
started doin they researched it. I consider myself "vegan"
but some of friends say im not because i wear a leather
braclet with shells on it from kenya and leather sandals,
both hold somewat of a sintemintal value, and both being
gifts from my brothers.

So, in u ppls opinion am i considered vegan or not?

Why worry about such labels? Do you really care what other
people call or think of you? As for wearing leather, I
consider any gift -- food, clothing, etc. -- sacred. The
love of your brothers encourages the sentimental value you
give your bracelet and sandals. That love should outweigh
any consideration for what ninnies think of you. Blood is
thicker than water. Names and descriptions change. If others
won't let you be "vegan" just because you enjoy gifts from
people who love you (and whom you love), then don't worry
about being part of the bandwagon. Be yourself.

thanx thats wat i thought

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"Vaine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started becoming a vegan aboot 2-3 monthes ago, I
changed my diet, and became more aware aboot the
enviroment around me. Im becoming involved

with

Quoted message said:

animal rights group, but after my friends had found out
wat i started

doin

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

they researched it. I consider myself "vegan" but some
of friends say im

not

Quoted message said:

because i wear a leather braclet with shells on it from
kenya and

leather

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sandals, both hold somewat of a sintemintal value, and
both being gifts

from

Quoted message said:

my brothers.

So, in u ppls opinion am i considered vegan or not?

lots of vegans still wear leather that they had before
they went vegan,

and

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some feel comfortable wearing second-hand leather as well.
they just

don't

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buy new leather, unless they absolutely have to. throwing
out old stuff when it's still useful and when it has
sentimental value is wasteful, especially with shoes,
which are harder for someone else to re-use. so

hey,

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you might face some criticism for wearing that stuff, but
it'd be crappier for the environment to toss em' and buy a
new product.

katie said:

"Vaine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started becoming a vegan aboot 2-3 monthes ago, I
changed my diet, and became more aware aboot the
enviroment around me. Im becoming involved

with

Quoted message said:

animal rights group, but after my friends had found out
wat i started doin they researched it. I consider myself
"vegan" but some of friends say im

not

Quoted message said:

because i wear a leather braclet with shells on it from
kenya and leather sandals, both hold somewat of a
sintemintal value, and both being gifts

from

Quoted message said:

my brothers.

So, in u ppls opinion am i considered vegan or not?

lots of vegans still wear leather that they had before they
went vegan, and some feel comfortable wearing second-hand
leather as well. they just don't buy new leather,

You'd do just as well either way....the cows are long
dead in either case, and being a vegan does absolutely
nothing to help cattle, or provide them with longer or
better lives. If people want to do something to
contribute to better lives for farm animals they need to
be more consceintious consumers of animal products, not
vegan. Vegans don't help farm animals any more than dead
people do.

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unless they absolutely have to. throwing out old stuff when
it's still useful and when it has sentimental value is
wasteful, especially with shoes, which are harder for
someone else to re-use. so hey, you might face some
criticism for wearing that stuff, but it'd be crappier for
the environment to toss em' and buy a new product.