An odd event

In article <[email hidden]>, Gordon Burns
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I've stuck my Xmas photos on my site, but one of them is very curious. Near
Sandwick Bay on the shores of Ullswater I saw a ewe with its young lamb. The
lamb must have been about two weeks old, and is very early indeed. Most
Lakeland sheep only lamb at the end of March. This was a different beed of
sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?

http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html

Travelling along the M5 through Somerset to Torquay in early December,
there were lambs a few weeks old in the fields. !
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

W. D. Grey said:

Travelling along the M5 through Somerset to Torquay in early December,
there were lambs a few weeks old in the fields. !

In rural Borsetshire the local farmers are going into the lambing sheds
about now...

Pete.
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Peter Clinch said:

W. D. Grey said:

Travelling along the M5 through Somerset to Torquay in early December,
there were lambs a few weeks old in the fields. !

In rural Borsetshire the local farmers are going into the lambing sheds
about now...

It is unusual for Cumbria, where around Easter seems to be the most common
time. I suppose its chances of it surviving depend on the farmer finding it
and bringing it inside.

--
Simon Challands

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This was a different beed of
sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?

http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html

The ewe herself doesn't look very big either. I hope the lamb makes it,
hopefully someone will find it and take it in.

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In message <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes

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This was a different beed of
sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?

http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html

The ewe herself doesn't look very big either. I hope the lamb makes it,
hopefully someone will find it and take it in.

What's odder is that she has very little fleece for this time of year
(might be why she looks small)... She might be a cross rather than any
breed in particular, but the toughest time for the lamb is at birth when
it has to dry out. Then it depends quite a bit on how much milk the
mother has.

I used to go hostelling in the Lakes in May, and some of the lambing was
in full flight in early May - apparently I just missed seeing a lamb
born at Black Hall Farm, at the foot of Hardknott pass on the Duddon
side. They had a few lambs inside to warm up in the Aga - new-born lamb
is a very distinctive smell to eat one's breakfast to!

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Whilst ambling through uk.rec.walking
I noticed Gordon Burns <[email hidden]>
had opined on Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:15:18 -0000
in <news:[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

I've stuck my Xmas photos on my site, but one of them is very curious. Near
Sandwick Bay on the shores of Ullswater I saw a ewe with its young lamb. The
lamb must have been about two weeks old, and is very early indeed. Most
Lakeland sheep only lamb at the end of March. This was a different beed of
sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?

http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html

x-posted with the hope of a sensible answer or observation, or two.
Anyone know what the breed is?

N.B. follow-up not set.

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"Bootlaces" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Whilst ambling through uk.rec.walking
I noticed Gordon Burns <[email hidden]>
had opined on Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:15:18 -0000
in <news:[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

I've stuck my Xmas photos on my site, but one of them is very curious.

Near

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sandwick Bay on the shores of Ullswater I saw a ewe with its young lamb.

The

Quoted message said:

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lamb must have been about two weeks old, and is very early indeed. Most
Lakeland sheep only lamb at the end of March. This was a different beed

of

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sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know

what

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breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?

http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html

x-posted with the hope of a sensible answer or observation, or two.
Anyone know what the breed is?

beyond me, we want one of the professionals as to what breed it is. I would
assume that the little begger would have been fetched in/nearer home for the
last few days
--

Jim Webster.
Pat Gardiner, Five years raving about bent vets and still no result

Simon Challands said:

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Peter Clinch said:

W. D. Grey said:

Travelling along the M5 through Somerset to Torquay in early December,
there were lambs a few weeks old in the fields. !

In rural Borsetshire the local farmers are going into the lambing sheds
about now...

It is unusual for Cumbria, where around Easter seems to be the most common
time. I suppose its chances of it surviving depend on the farmer finding it
and bringing it inside.

It looks very much like Hmapshire to me. If as suggested it is down
at lakeside level it should have no trouble surviving. Bear in mind
sheep are designed for the outdoors, there as as many if nit more
problems associated with housing them as there are leaving them
outside.

regards

Tim Jones

In message <[email hidden]>, Surfer!
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes

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[email hidden] said...

Quoted message said:

This was a different beed of
sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?

http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html

The ewe herself doesn't look very big either. I hope the lamb makes it,
hopefully someone will find it and take it in.

What's odder is that she has very little fleece for this time of year
(might be why she looks small)... She might be a cross rather than any
breed in particular, but the toughest time for the lamb is at birth
when it has to dry out. Then it depends quite a bit on how much milk
the mother has.

If you're *really* bored you could try having a trawl through;

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/

A complete listing of sheep. Alphabetically! With photos!
--
Chris Hill

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:03:07 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden]

(Tim Jones) said:

Simon Challands said:

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Peter Clinch said:

W. D. Grey wrote:

> Travelling along the M5 through Somerset to Torquay in early December,
> there were lambs a few weeks old in the fields. !

In rural Borsetshire the local farmers are going into the lambing sheds
about now...

It is unusual for Cumbria, where around Easter seems to be the most common
time. I suppose its chances of it surviving depend on the farmer finding it
and bringing it inside.

It looks very much like Hmapshire to me. If as suggested it is down
at lakeside level it should have no trouble surviving. Bear in mind
sheep are designed for the outdoors, there as as many if nit more
problems associated with housing them as there are leaving them
outside.

In N Wales I've seen a very occasional lamb in the first week of Jan -
but by the farm, not on the hill. At lake level it's not going to
struggle for food (ewe will get fed) or get stuck in a drift, so I'd
bet on its survival too.
--

Paul Rooney

In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Rooney
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In N Wales I've seen a very occasional lamb in the first week of Jan -
but by the farm, not on the hill. At lake level it's not going to
struggle for food (ewe will get fed) or get stuck in a drift, so I'd
bet on its survival too.

Oops, you forgot your usual obscene sig, I'll add it in for you.

RIP Brian Hamilton Kelly.

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Member, Hall of Shame

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JK.

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Hill
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>, Surfer!
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes

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> This was a different beed of
> sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
> breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?
>
> http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html
>
The ewe herself doesn't look very big either. I hope the lamb makes it,
hopefully someone will find it and take it in.

What's odder is that she has very little fleece for this time of year
(might be why she looks small)... She might be a cross rather than
any breed in particular, but the toughest time for the lamb is at
birth when it has to dry out. Then it depends quite a bit on how much
milk the mother has.

If you're *really* bored you could try having a trawl through;

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/

A complete listing of sheep. Alphabetically! With photos!

Looks a bit like a Shropshire - Black ears and black snout. Any experts
agree?
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In message <[email hidden]>, W. D. Grey
<[email hidden]> writes

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In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Hill
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>, Surfer!
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes
>[email hidden] said...
>> This was a different beed of
>> sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone
>>know what
>> breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?
>>
>> http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html
>>
>The ewe herself doesn't look very big either. I hope the lamb makes it,
>hopefully someone will find it and take it in.

What's odder is that she has very little fleece for this time of year
(might be why she looks small)... She might be a cross rather than
any breed in particular, but the toughest time for the lamb is at
birth when it has to dry out. Then it depends quite a bit on how much
milk the mother has.

If you're *really* bored you could try having a trawl through;

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/

A complete listing of sheep. Alphabetically! With photos!

Looks a bit like a Shropshire - Black ears and black snout.

Agreed - especially with the two black bits running up either side of
its face.

Did you go through the whole lot to find that one, or did you *already*
*know*?
--
Chris Hill

I haven't a clue what breed it is, but I do know that for certain shows
the lamb must be born within the new year, and be as big as possible.
So the farmers aim at 1st week in January. Presumably this one missed!

Andy

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Bootlaces said:

Whilst ambling through uk.rec.walking
I noticed Gordon Burns <[email hidden]>
had opined on Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:15:18 -0000
in <news:[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've stuck my Xmas photos on my site, but one of them is very curious. Near
Sandwick Bay on the shores of Ullswater I saw a ewe with its young lamb. The
lamb must have been about two weeks old, and is very early indeed. Most
Lakeland sheep only lamb at the end of March. This was a different beed of
sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?

http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html

Quoted message said:

x-posted with the hope of a sensible answer or observation, or two.
Anyone know what the breed is?

Quoted message said:

N.B. follow-up not set.

Not the clearest of pics, but my guess would be one of the down breeds;
possibly an Oxford Down or Shropshire Down.

Peter

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Totnes : South Devon

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:26:50 +0000 (GMT), in
<[email hidden]>, Peter Gillett

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Not the clearest of pics, but my guess would be one of the down breeds;
possibly an Oxford Down or Shropshire Down.

I was going to suggest Dorset Down, but the down breeds are all very
similar ;-)

a few pics at
http://www.sheepcentre.co.uk/sheep_breeds.htm
--
denis

"I teleported home one night, With Ron and Sid and Meg,
Ron stole Meggie's heart away, And I got Sidney's leg. "

Chris Hill said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Surfer!
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes

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[email hidden] said...
> This was a different beed of
> sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone know what
> breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?
>
> http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html
>
The ewe herself doesn't look very big either. I hope the lamb makes it,
hopefully someone will find it and take it in.

What's odder is that she has very little fleece for this time of year
(might be why she looks small)... She might be a cross rather than any
breed in particular, but the toughest time for the lamb is at birth
when it has to dry out. Then it depends quite a bit on how much milk
the mother has.

If you're *really* bored you could try having a trawl through;

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/

A complete listing of sheep. Alphabetically! With photos!

Probably not the best place to try and identify UK sheep, the
Americans like their sheep big and by breeding for size they seem
manage to produce sheep that look very different to the same breeds in
the UK.

In message <[email hidden]>, Tim Jones
<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Hill said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Surfer!
<[email hidden]> writes

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In message <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes
>[email hidden] said...
>> This was a different beed of
>> sheep to the Herdwicks and Black Faces normally seen. Does anyone
>>know what
>> breed it is, and is it usual to lamb so ealy? Will the lamb survive?
>>
>> http://mickledore.fotopic.net/p24318707.html
>>
>The ewe herself doesn't look very big either. I hope the lamb makes it,
>hopefully someone will find it and take it in.

What's odder is that she has very little fleece for this time of year
(might be why she looks small)... She might be a cross rather than any
breed in particular, but the toughest time for the lamb is at birth
when it has to dry out. Then it depends quite a bit on how much milk
the mother has.

If you're *really* bored you could try having a trawl through;

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/

A complete listing of sheep. Alphabetically! With photos!

Probably not the best place to try and identify UK sheep,

Hey - just trying to be helpful. My knowledge of sheep-related databases
is somewhat limited. I was impressed to note, though, that they had my
local breed listed.

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the
Americans like their sheep big

There's a joke in there, but I feel it would be beneath my dignity to
sink to that level.

--
Chris Hill

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Hill
<[email hidden]> writes

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Looks a bit like a Shropshire - Black ears and black snout.

Agreed - especially with the two black bits running up either side of
its face.

Did you go through the whole lot to find that one, or did you *already*
*know*?

Not being a sheep expert in any sense, I do have some recollection of
breed names though, so I checked the ones I thought I'd heard of.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk