Annoying tv Chef Habits

J S said...

Quoted message said:

May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
arranging presentations.
<<Smitty

Smitty,

I imagine TV chefs are allowed those liberties since they aren't serving
actual restaurant patrons.

Andy

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Quoted message said:

May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking
with her hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male
chefs do it also.Isnt this a no-no in a professional or
otherwise kitchen?When I did catering its one of the first
things we were told about...Plus touching food with
'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv
stars when arranging presentations.
<<Smitty

The unclean hands, dirty finger nails gross me out.

True Andy but its not just the "stars".(who should know better).Many
times restaurants are featured with various chefs in their travels.Ive
seen some with dreadlocks(the pastry guy)hanging over food,.or long
greasy hair,Hair swinging(Racheal)wiping their nose or scratching their
heads(Fieri),rubbing their hair,eyes,
There was a local guy on who was always scratching his eye,out of habit
I guess,which grossed me out....dirty nails...yuck.Not a good impression
for their restaurants.Maybe its just watching them 'play'with the food
on the plate arranging a presentation ,wonder what they touched before
its served to me.You never know....sanitary?no.If 5 different people
touched your meal before it got to you,would you eat it?..whatever
happened to hand coverings?Once in a great while you,ll see them used
but not often.
<Cheers,Smitty

"J S" <[email hidden]> wrote

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for their restaurants.Maybe its just watching them 'play'with the food
on the plate arranging a presentation ,wonder what they touched before
its served to me.

I know, when I see that I think, would you quit rubbing your
hands all over my food?

Quoted message said:

You never know....sanitary?no.If 5 different people
touched your meal before it got to you,would you eat it?..whatever
happened to hand coverings?

Ever watch Ace of Cakes? It's amusing to see how they make
different shapes/whatever, but no gloves, smooshing and squeezing
the product to shape it, I can't believe the end product is intended
for consumption. I could see getting one for the cool factor, but
having a cake to eat off to the side.

nancy

J S said...

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If 5 different people
touched your meal before it got to you,would you eat it?

Smitty,

Heck no!!! I worked in a fine French restaurant as a dish washer. The
things I saw, I'd never eat there. Being the dishwasher, I did have the
cleanest hands! 😉

Then there's always the waitress that brings your plate to the table and
her thumb is sticking over the rim of the plate into your food. "Enjoy,
Hon!" Maybe you know her?

I sometimes wear a chef's hat when I cook in MY kitchen. Part sanitary/part
fantasy! 😄

Andy

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(J S) said:

May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
arranging presentations.
<<Smitty

I generally tie back my hair when cooking, but mainly because it's
cooler. As for stuff under the fingernails? If that's me, that "stuff"
is usually food and got there from mixing the dish.

More and more tho', I'm doing any messy food preps wearing disposable
gloves. That's for my personal comfort, not for food safety.
--
Peace, Om

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Andy said:

J S said...

Quoted message said:

May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
arranging presentations.

I imagine TV chefs are allowed those liberties since they aren't serving
actual restaurant patrons.

That's not an excuse. And I wish folks would stop calling them Chefs,
the majority are not... they're foodtv personalities... were they
really chefs we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

Andy said:

J S said...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
arranging presentations.

Quoted message said:

I imagine TV chefs are allowed those liberties since they aren't serving
actual restaurant patrons.

That's not an excuse. And I wish folks would stop calling them Chefs,
the majority are not... they're foodtv personalities... were they
really chefs we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Sheldon

The word 'Chef' has been perverted. It is a french(and other lingos)
word meaning 'chief', 'boss' or some such truck. These bozos walking
around calling themselves 'chefs' are out to lunch, or dinner or
breaky...I don't know any french but like a chef saucier would be in
charge of the sauce department; a chef is always in some kind of alpha/
beta role. For example(please note that the word chef is not only
used correctly in France)my uncle is a chemical engineer in Germany.
When he refers to his boss he calls him 'chef' etc...Mike Smith is a
cook unless he is in charge of something. Emeril is a chef I suppose
since he runs restaurants; but a chef of what? That is the question.
A chef of his restaurant/s. When he takes complete charge of one of
his kitchens in one of his restaurants then he would be executive chef
or head chef or just plain chef depending upon the organization of the
kitchen.

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(J S) said:

True Andy but its not just the "stars".(who should know better).Many
times restaurants are featured with various chefs in their travels.Ive
seen some with dreadlocks(the pastry guy)hanging over food,.or long
greasy hair,Hair swinging(Racheal)wiping their nose or scratching their
heads(Fieri),rubbing their hair,eyes,
There was a local guy on who was always scratching his eye,out of habit
I guess,which grossed me out....dirty nails...yuck.Not a good impression
for their restaurants.Maybe its just watching them 'play'with the food
on the plate arranging a presentation ,wonder what they touched before
its served to me.You never know....sanitary?no.If 5 different people
touched your meal before it got to you,would you eat it?..whatever
happened to hand coverings?Once in a great while you,ll see them used
but not often.
<Cheers,Smitty

They use gloves to handle food 100% of the time in the dining facility
where I work, and they all wear hair nets.

All it might take is one complaint to the local health authorities.
--
Peace, Om

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Omelet said:

They use gloves to handle food 100% of the time in the dining facility
where I work, and they all wear hair nets.

Gee, how did mankind ever survive a couple million years without
gloves? And what happens if you are one of the not-so-few who might
develope a latex allergy from wearing gloves for hours on end every
day? Do you quit the industry and stand on some left turn island with a
sign saying, "Will Work For glove-handled food"? Gimme a break. 😉

nb

notbob said:

Omelet said:

They use gloves to handle food 100% of the time in the dining facility
where I work, and they all wear hair nets.

Gee, how did mankind ever survive a couple million years without
gloves? And what happens if you are one of the not-so-few who might
develope a latex allergy from wearing gloves for hours on end every
day? Do you quit the industry and stand on some left turn island with a
sign saying, "Will Work For glove-handled food"? Gimme a break. 😉

nb

The black stains under my nails are normally basil or another herb I
snipped off for cooking from organic plants.

I wear gloves for working with raw meat then doff them when I move onto
other foods.

--
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notbob said:

Omelet said:

They use gloves to handle food 100% of the time in the dining facility
where I work, and they all wear hair nets.

Gee, how did mankind ever survive a couple million years without
gloves? And what happens if you are one of the not-so-few who might
develope a latex allergy from wearing gloves for hours on end every
day? Do you quit the industry and stand on some left turn island with a
sign saying, "Will Work For glove-handled food"? Gimme a break. 😉

nb

I work in a hospital.

'nuff said. ;-)
--
Peace, Om

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Quoted message said:

Ever watch Ace of Cakes? It's amusing to see how they make
different shapes/whatever, but no gloves, smooshing and squeezing
the product to shape it, I can't believe the end product is intended
for consumption. I could see getting one for the cool factor, but
having a cake to eat off to the side.

nancy

I've noticed that too! It does seem like a lot of what they create is
not edible though or it is edible stuff wrapped around pipes or some
other type of structure. But you are right, when they do the fondant on
a cake it is all smoothed out by hand or when they handle the cakes and
I never see them wearing any gloves.
--
Queenie

*** Be the change you wish to see in the world ***

Omelet said:

I work in a hospital.

'nuff said. ;-)

I'm sure. I worked in clean rooms. I couldn't get those damn things
off my hands fast enough. Never wear them at home. But, no doubt
they're lifesavers to hypochondriacs and germaphobes.

nb

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Quoted message said:

Andy said:

J S said...

Quoted message said:

May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food
with
'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars
when
arranging presentations.

I imagine TV chefs are allowed those liberties since they aren't serving
actual restaurant patrons.

That's not an excuse. And I wish folks would stop calling them Chefs,
the majority are not... they're foodtv personalities... were they
really chefs we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Sheldon

Maybe the Navy's title would suit most of these better....'Mess
Specialists'. They excell at making messes.
-ginny

"J S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food with
'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars when
arranging presentations.

I hate it when they handle raw meat with their bare hands, then merely wipe
their hands on a towel, or sometimes not even that, then use those unwashed
hands to touch other food. Yuck!

Julie Bove said...

I hate it when they handle raw meat with their bare hands, then merely

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wipe their hands on a towel, or sometimes not even that, then use those
unwashed hands to touch other food. Yuck!

Sure. That, and you've seen them turn on the kitchen sink faucet with
"possibly" contaminated hands, wash them, then turn off the faucet with clean
hands only to recontaminate them and whatever they handle after that. Worst
case scenario stuff, of course.

Andy

Virginia Tadrzynski said:

Sheldon said:

Andy said:

J S said...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> May be just me,but Ive noticed Rachel Ray is always cooking with her
> hair hanging over the food.Some long-haired male chefs do it also.Isnt
> this a no-no in a professional or otherwise kitchen?When I did catering
> its one of the first things we were told about...Plus touching food
> with
> 'clean'hands..noticed a few unclean finger nails on a few tv stars
> when
> arranging presentations.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I imagine TV chefs are allowed those liberties since they aren't serving
actual restaurant patrons.

Quoted message said:

That's not an excuse. And I wish folks would stop calling them Chefs,
the majority are not... they're foodtv personalities... were they
really chefs we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Maybe the Navy's title would suit most of these better....'Mess
Specialists'.

You only wish you were. But that title is now outdated, it's now
Culinary Specialist: http://www.usslittlerock.org/Commissaryman.html

And if anyone cares to click on the 1947/48 menus they will note that
it is the US Govt. that was most instrumental is promoting smoking...
I can attest to that free tobacco was offered at every meal, even
through the '60s

Sheldon

notbob said:

Omelet said:

They use gloves to handle food 100% of the time in the dining facility
where I work, and they all wear hair nets.

Gee, how did mankind ever survive a couple million years without
gloves? And what happens if you are one of the not-so-few who might
develope a latex allergy from wearing gloves for hours on end every
day?

What happens then is they wear vinyl or plastic gloves, plastic being in
fact what food service usually uses from go thanks to its low cost.

Quoted message said:

Do you quit the industry and stand on some left turn island with a
sign saying, "Will Work For glove-handled food"? Gimme a break. 😉

Hey, back in the days before we created supermicroorganisms resistant to
nearly everything, I would have agreed with you.

<then again, we still have outbreaks of E. coli and Salmonella despite
the use of gloves... or more accurately thanks to the improper use of
gloves>